YO! Not a Chan student. Not a CLF student. I do Wing Chun, Hung Gar, Hei Long (a northern style influenced by Shaolin temple and by Mongolian wrestling) and am now just starting to learn a northern style the name of which I don't actually know. Most definately not a Chan CLF student.Originally Posted by hskwarrior
This is true. I hadn't even heard of Hung Sing prior to reading this thread.most of you have never heard the hung sing version of the history.
Not in shock in the slightest. In fact consider me to be the dispassionate observer in this situation. What I am saying is simply this: in order to do credit to your school don't misrepresent your information. Since you don't know whether or not your version of history is true perhaps you could refer to it as a founding myth. This would be more accurate than calling it a history.and that put most of you in shock and made it sound like we were trying to change history. but if you've never heard our version of the history how can you say it's wrong?
As I said, I don't practice CLF and don't know any CLF elders. However oral traditions make a weak foundation for historical work. If you want to consider your work a history you should be aware of this.why hasn't anyone contacted any elders to contradict them? if you were to check the history's even yours fu pow, your sifu says the same thing we do. its also in lee koon hungs book.
I have not done so. I have merely stated that the burden of proof lies upon you to prove that it is not so.Now when someone tries to tell our story in any kind of detail, non hung sing kwoon members all claim that it is false.
It would appear that a few people have provided you with more ample reason than "it just is" to doubt your history.but the can't tell you why it's wrong, all they can say is "it just is". the reason why they can't is because they don't know our history.
Have any of them writen it down? Or is this entirely oral. A british book has dubious provenance. Material from china, though not entirely reliable unless writen as a chronicle or biography during the life of Jeong Yim, would have a better provenance and could provide a basis for historical cross-reference.the Hung Sing Kwoon has a history, just as the chan heung clan does. the only difference is the chan clan stops with chan heung, and just as theirs, our story starts with jeong Yim. Just as the chan family has the direct blood line to chan heung, so does chan ngau sing-the successor to the fut san hsk- his family still exists right there in fut san. they have preserved their great grand fathers history and that of his sifu Jeong Yim.
And that is good for them. However as my Sifu said lineage has little to do with modern performance. Live in the now.So, if chan heungs family can be considered the source of their history, then the same can be said of Chan Ngau Sings lineage. His great grand daughter is still practicing clf, and winning tournaments as well.
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