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    does anyone here train with grandmaster neal?

    http://www.angelfire.com/empire2/shao_lin/

    anyone know of this school and its lineage?

    just curious. thanks for any answers!

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    First impressions tell me he's either a conman, or he got taken by a little old Chinese conman . Could be wrong, but I kind of doubt it in this case.

    On an unrelated note, that also has to be one of the most unprofessional and difficult to read webpages I've ever seen It's just aweful...

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    The "Kung Fu Karate" thing makes me skeptical. Sounds like kempo guys re marketing to me. You would have to see the curriculem to know for sure.
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    the words "shaolin" and "karate" go together like milk and borax.

    and if the martial arts is anything like the web savvy, i would say "flashing red light flashing red light!"
    Kung Fu is good for you.

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    the only reason i ask is he claims to teach a lot of the same material as shaolindo or central shaolin...i agree though his site is certainly suspect!

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    The overwhelming number of mullets on that site are proof enough to me he ripped off Sin's material.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MasterKiller
    The overwhelming number of mullets on that site are proof enough to me he ripped off Sin's material.

    Yep, looks like everything he teaches and most of what he writes was "borrowed" from SD.
    "Pain heals, chicks dig scars..Glory lasts forever"......

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    Quote Originally Posted by David Jamieson
    the words "shaolin" and "karate" go together like milk and borax.

    and if the martial arts is anything like the web savvy, i would say "flashing red light flashing red light!"
    Like Shorin ryu?
    Quote Originally Posted by Oso View Post
    AND, yea, a good bit of it is about whether you can fight with what you know...kinda all of it is about that.

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    No not like shorin ryu because Shaolin and Karate are two different languages. Shorin ryu is "shaolin School" translated into japanese.

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    WEAPONS

    BO STAFF
    SHORT STICK
    SINGLE BROADSWORD
    SAI
    KWAN-TAO
    TIGER HOOK SWORDS
    SPEAR
    T'AI CHI SWORD
    (SEVEN SECTION) CHAIN WHIP
    BUTTERFLY KNIVES
    (NINE SECTION) CHAIN WHIP
    DOUBLE AXES
    THREE SECTION STAFF
    ROPE DART
    DOUBLE BROADSWORD
    NUNCHAKU
    TIGER FORK
    KAMA
    TONFA
    FAY TIAN-CHI
    FAN
    KNIFE, SPRING AND AUTUMN
    DAGGER
    UMBRELLA-CANE
    ANIMAL FORMS / MATERIAL

    TIGER / LEOPARD
    CRANE / BIRD
    PRAYING MANTIS
    MONKEY
    SNAKE
    DRAGON
    HORSE
    PHOENIX
    SHAOLIN BIRD
    BEAR
    EAGLE
    DEER
    TAI CHI CHUAN
    PA KUA CHANG
    IE CHING CHING
    SAN NJIE CHIEN / HSING IE CHIEN
    MATERIAL

    SELF-DEFENSE TECHNIQUE'S
    SHORT KATA'S
    SPARING TECHNIQUE'S
    KUMITE (ONE STEP SPARING TECHNIQUE'S)
    READY STANCE (R.S.) / BO STANCE (B.S.) / HORSE STANCE (H.S.) / CAT STANCE (C.S.)
    What would this be, like a 1st or 2nd black in SD?

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    Yep around 2nd black plus some extra stuff he must have picked up here and there.
    Quote Originally Posted by Oso View Post
    AND, yea, a good bit of it is about whether you can fight with what you know...kinda all of it is about that.

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    wow, he teaches the tai-chi sword. I bet he wears tai-chi slippers too. -always a good sign.

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    Angry oh my god...

    ...that was the sorriest sack of **** I have ever seen..some body put this guy and his student out of their misery..total ****ing conman..what a joke ....definitely 2nd black or less in shaolin do

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    Just looking at the lame web site would put me off taking a look into the school.

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