Tai Chi dynamic push hands

[TaiChiBob]

Greetings..

Ronin22; Go to your local book store and look in the MA section.. or go to the magazine rack, mags usually have some historical stuff that is interesting.. Below are some links that help with understanding the CT system and its importance to our Art.. i hope it helps..

http://www.i-sis.org.uk/lcm.php

http://theamt.com/modules.php?name=N...=print&sid=143

http://www.findarticles.com/p/articl...12/ai_n9153887

http://www.uvm.edu/~annb/faculty/PDFs/C747.pdf

http://www.sportsmedicinenaturally.com/

http://www.massagetoday.com/mpacms/m...cb6dcb58d6f671

http://www.backfixbodywork.com/Athle...ement_Pt_2.htm

http://www.healing101.org/somaticrecall1.html

http://biotensegrity.com/index.php?o...d=16&Itemid=29

http://www.idealspine.com/pages/AJCC...y%207%2001.pdf

Be well.....

[fiercest tiger]

WOW, thanks Taiji Bob great info and i do appreciate it muchly! More to study on now, Dr John be prepared for a call to meet up my brother!!!

Garry

[Ronin22]

Thanks a lot TCB this looks awesome! Appreciate it!


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[imperialtaichi]

Dynamic pushing hands is not about bouncing people out - it's about developing structure and peng jin. You give your partner as much pressure as his structure can bear, then at the point of failure your partner sits back into the rear leg and then pushes you out. The better you get, the more relaxed you are - you let the opponent load your structure for you and then throw them out when it suits.

Hello Paul,

I agree with most of what you wrote, but in my opinion only.....

What I find is not so much a matter of training the structure to bear a lot of pressure in a relaxed manner, but to train the structure to dissipitate as much incoming force as possible so that the structure does not have to bear much pressure at all. Hence there is a saying "Li Bu Guo Wan" meaning the opponent's force must never penetrate pass your wrist.

It is also NOT about relaxing and using minimal muscular effort; but to shift the mind set from using muscles to using the naturally expanding Yi Qi for Peng (kind of correlates to the CT theory TaiChiBob talked about) through relaxation. So the moment someone thinks about "I must use minimal muscular effort" it is already wrong, as one should think more along the line of "I'll forget about the body and let it be."

Cheers,
John

[fiercest tiger]

Hi John,

Your last comment is true but a beginner still needs a way of understanding softness right rather then just let it be! I mean there are many factors behind neutralizing or redirecting, grounding strikes or incoming forces.

Are you free next monday or tuesday?

Garry

[imperialtaichi]

Hi John,

Your last comment is true but a beginner still needs a way of understanding softness right rather then just let it be!

Hello Garry,

You're totally right! This softness business is so **** hard to explain, so **** hard to understand. It took me many years before understanding it myself. The thing is, when someone is using muscles to push back, no matter how soft he/she is still using muscles to push back. The classics talk about "Bu Diu Bu Ding" which mean "no opposing, no retreating." When one opposes using muscles, no matter how little, is still opposing. When one yields physically (the floppy noodle thing) no matter how little one is still retreating.

Cheers,
John

p.s. I can only do Wednesdays. I'll SMS you.

[Kaitain(UK)]

Hi John - fair comment. I think it true to say that one needs to develop a structure before letting go within it - that delightful 'release' when you're not doing anything other than letting their force go through you is not something a beginner can attain without going through stages of relaxation. At some point something in their mind goes "aha" and they stop working in the context of 'minimum' and start working with 'emptying'. It's a tricky one to teach - my students can feel the difference when I show them, but it hasnt helped them to "get it" (I've only been teaching for two years though, so they're very new to this)

Cheers

Paul

[TaiChiBob]

Greetings..

The concept of Peng can be accurately described using the CT system.. the effects are consistent when evaluated by result and structure.. The ancestors had no science to describe the remarkable effects they experiencing from correct alignment and relaxing into the CT structure.. My first experience with CT activation (where i was taught to consciously activate it) was overwhelming.. it opened an entirely new and profound aspect of Taiji.. and, the fact that there was verifiable science supporting it added to the comfort level.. one of my first thoughts was, wowzers!! the ancestors did know something special!...

The use of the CT system relies on perfectly natural movement, without the "conflict" of separating the consciousness into competing elements.. if i have my hands on the opponent's elbows, i lift and push as though i am lifting a punch-bowl up into the cupboard.. as i am lifting, i point my index fingers enough to feel the tingle of activation.. try it, point the index fingers into a little bit of a stretch.. feel the tingle?.. that is a signal that activates the CT system (i'm still researching the why and how, but it works).. The lifting and pushing as though it were the simple task of putting the punch-bowl away minimizes the "conflict" which separates and calls the weaker slower neuro-muscular system into play.. rather than "push" someone in a conflict of wills, reach out and touch them, or reach past them.. WCC Chen says it's like offering them a cup of tea or coffee.. the speed is amazing when the muscles are merely the support for the CT.. try reaching for something at arm's length, no intended power, just a quick reach.. remember the last time you knocked something over or dropped something.. usually, the CT system activates, naturally, and sometimes (if the mind doesn't go "crap, now look what i've done") there is this natural, blinding, smoothly accurate speed as we seem to scoop the mistake up before it actually manifests.. THAT is the CT in action.. but, once the mind engages in analysis and response evaluation the muscles fire-up and the movement either freezes or blunders..

One of the challenges is to relax into the Kua, relax the Glutes, the Abs and the low back.. this frees-up the pelvis/hips and permits the CT to activate without the interference of muscular tension which dampens the vibrations of the CT.. The CT communicates throughout the body and to every cell through vibrational frequencies, and.. excessive muscular tension dampens the virbations.. the usual tension in the Kua region separates the upper and lower body and diminishes the effectiveness of the CT system.. Once the Kua is minimally tense you attain whole body/unified connectivity.. and the energy in the CT begins to achieve a level of coherence..

Another interesting observation is, if you meditate, try your favorite meditation posture with pointing index fingers.. it is spooky how quickly and easily the alpha state is attained.. the "monkey chatter" is almost eliminated by simply activating the CT system.. By my experience, this is the stuff the ancestors discovered but could not describe.. they gave it mystical names and analogies.. but, it's here today as quantifiable experience.. and, so far, i can't find any inconsistencies...

Be well...

[fiercest tiger]

Ahhhhhhhhhh I understand what you mean, thanks alot Bob that has made my day!


awesome info you said a book that is worth reading up on this stuff?? never mind its on the previous page ill check it out mate.

Regards
Garry