8step linked fist

[Shaolinlueb]

oasis

very interesting. I have a clip to another form that we call cannon 2. i was wondering if you recognize it at all.
http://www.nacma.net/demo/shaolinlueb_taolu.mpg
it doesnt really fill the cannon profile.
since our cannon 1 is actually Shaolin Babu lian huan quan i think this might be something else too.

i performed this form 2 years ago or so.

[iron_silk]

This is the first time I posted in a long time but your cannon#2 looks like a set I learned called "Lohan 18 Hands" which can be performed as a solo and 2 man

Cheers

[K.Brazier]

Yes, it is like Iron said.
The form is luohan 18 Hands.
But in this clip it appears as though the number may have exceeded 18 as there are a few extra movements.

Kevin

[Shaolin Master]

Yes the second looks like 18 hands.....

and again well the movements do not link in as if learnt ....rather looks like some choppy book thing. Movements are the same ...the performance makes the movements seem additional......whilst the kicking is deficient (missing a bit).

Regards

[Shaolinlueb]

Yes the second looks like 18 hands.....

and again well the movements do not link in as if learnt ....rather looks like some choppy book thing. Movements are the same ...the performance makes the movements seem additional......whilst the kicking is deficient (missing a bit).

Regards

thanks

yeah the form was only finished for a week when i performed it. so it was bad. but the form is lohan 18? interesting. thanks.

[iron_silk]

Shaolinlueb

What are the other forms taught at your school?

Just curious since you seem to do similar sets to mine.

[Shaolinlueb]

Shaolinlueb

What are the other forms taught at your school?

Just curious since you seem to do similar sets to mine.

some basic long fist, some cha, and eagle claw.

[Shaolinlueb]

ok, i have to bring this thread back form the dead.

oasis, iron_silk, Shaolin Master, or K.Brazier

do any of you have a video of the lohan 18 hands at all?

it would be a huge help

cheers
adam

[iron_silk]

It is kind of funny....the only "Cannon Fist" I learn was from "My Jong Lohan" style and it was obvious because of a certain move repeated (i.e. fist upward to the sky)

Your Cannon #1 = Babu lian huan - I personally didn't see it until someone showed a clip of the two man version and I instantly recognize since I do a similar version of it....I think you can see it on my school's video section (part of it that is...)

Your Cannon #2 = Lohan 18 Hand - I personally learned this two man and solo afterwards. In my opinion it was an easier two man set but your solo looks way fancier than mine did...and I kind of forgotten it by now...

......so I finally answer your question I swear I've seen it somewhere on the web before unforunately that was long time ago and I no longer have the link BUT... I swear I saw it in one of the Lee Koon Hung Open Ceremony performances so...commence digging...SUCCESS!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=991e3tchIxc

you would be the guy starting from the right.

Hope this what you were looking for!

[iron_silk]

some basic long fist, some cha, and eagle claw.

thanks for answering my question....I forgot to thank you earlier (only a little over a year late)

I finally started learning some Cha this year (traditional version i.e. not wushu) finished #4 a while ago and just finished #5 last night!!!

at I thought #4 was a killer (for a person my size and lack of flexibility) and I can't get into the nice low stance like you can........but then #5 came around BOY was I in for some hurting....

not that i will be performing these sets....just something to work on.....maybe one day when I finally lose 20lbs and practice my stances really hard without killing my knees

[Shaolinlueb]

It is kind of funny....the only "Cannon Fist" I learn was from "My Jong Lohan" style and it was obvious because of a certain move repeated (i.e. fist upward to the sky)

Your Cannon #1 = Babu lian huan - I personally didn't see it until someone showed a clip of the two man version and I instantly recognize since I do a similar version of it....I think you can see it on my school's video section (part of it that is...)

Your Cannon #2 = Lohan 18 Hand - I personally learned this two man and solo afterwards. In my opinion it was an easier two man set but your solo looks way fancier than mine did...and I kind of forgotten it by now...

......so I finally answer your question I swear I've seen it somewhere on the web before unforunately that was long time ago and I no longer have the link BUT... I swear I saw it in one of the Lee Koon Hung Open Ceremony performances so...commence digging...SUCCESS!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=991e3tchIxc

you would be the guy starting from the right.

Hope this what you were looking for!

THANKS Iron Silk. I do recognize all the moves. im surprised i didnt see it when i was there. then again it was hot out and LOTS of kung fu.

finished CHA #4? lucky, that is such a beautiful set. I love it. its one of my fav's. CHA #5, I think I have a vcd of it somewhere.

[looking.......]

yep i do. I have CHA 1,2,4, & 5 on VCD. got them off of http://www.plumpub.com/sales/vcd/coll_cha.htm 4 is my fav. its everything long fist should be

I'm starting to get the collection of martial art vcd's. my brothers are like do you learn them? im like no, i just like watching them lol. expensive habit sort of.

[ngokfei]

The only eagle claw school that has this form is in Hong Kong (sifu wing kit lam), he also put a book out on it.

What I've heard is that it is not very old and comes from a series of "sets" created in the last 30 years during the same time that the 32 series of Contemporary Chang Quan.

Wu Bu Quan (ng Bo Kuen ) 5 step fist
Ba Bu Lian Huan Quan (BAt Bo Lin Wan Kuen) 8 step linking fist
shi ba lohan quan (sup bat law hon kuen) 18 arhat fist.


There is a VCD series out of china that teaches these three sets along with partner sets for the 8 step linking fist and the 18 arhat fist set.

[Sal Canzonieri]

Shaolin Babulianhuanquan displayed and the 18 luohans hands : aren't they the same as presented by Cai Longyun a few decades ago? Both have 2 man counterparts and very similar features/rhythm.

The performance was tight but some movements were a little unlinked, and in fact a little different to what I have seen as the two man would not work smoothly with the movements as performed. But of course good skill shown.

The Shaolin Lianhuanquan bears no relationship to the 8 step.

Yes, it is shown here: http://www.plumpub.com/sales/vcd3/coll_huaboxing.htm

Part of Cai's Wah or Hua Quan style.

VCDs of the single and two person sets are available there.
They are throughly authentic versions.

[Sal Canzonieri]

ok, i have to bring this thread back form the dead.

oasis, iron_silk, Shaolin Master, or K.Brazier

do any of you have a video of the lohan 18 hands at all?

it would be a huge help

cheers
adam

VCDs are here: http://www.plumpub.com/sales/vcd3/coll_huaboxing.htm
Both single and two person.

[Shaolinlueb]

ngok and sal

thanks very much for this information!!!! you dont know how much this is helping me!