Is Shaolin-Do for real?

[Golden Tiger]

Tell me that I left SD for something "softer"....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mwy_C4cywNM

Uh yeah....you might want to tell them not to jump before the throw is executed or fall before the guys starts the sweep....looks almost as dangerous as some of those Akido demo's I have seen. You be careful Meat, hate for you to end up with a nasty rug burn.....

[brucereiter]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mwy_C4cywNM

Uh yeah....you might want to tell them not to jump before the throw is executed or fall before the guys starts the sweep....looks almost as dangerous as some of those Akido demo's I have seen. You be careful Meat, hate for you to end up with a nasty rug burn.....

remember it was a demo ... i have nothing but respect for john wang. if you check out a bit more of what he does i think you will find it of value.

[kwaichang]

Yep, I know the teacher in San M and know the kind of classes he runs. I definately hope you dont square up like that for your throws. If so , anyway I have heard about you already you know I took Aikido from a uchi Deshi of Euishibas and w/o with a judo guy there our throws and tech were much harder . KC

[Golden Tiger]

remember it was a demo ... i have nothing but respect for john wang. if you check out a bit more of what he does i think you will find it of value.

Yeah, I was just in a bit of a pi$$y mood lastnight. But since our demo's are always attacked, I figured it was within the rules.

I meant no offense to Mr. Wang nor anyone else. Just pointing out that to Mr. Meat.

[ninthdrunk]

Man, I just got around to watching my liu shing dvd. I can't believe how fast he is! I think I've gotten a good taste for it, especially after watching him go through first leopard at the seminar....but this is ridiculous! Anyone with the video, pay close attention during round 5. The man's hands are like lightning! And you can tell that each strike is going to each of those points he's calling.

Hope I'm rockin like that some day!

[Baqualin]

Man, I just got around to watching my liu shing dvd. I can't believe how fast he is! I think I've gotten a good taste for it, especially after watching him go through first leopard at the seminar....but this is ridiculous! Anyone with the video, pay close attention during round 5. The man's hands are like lightning! And you can tell that each strike is going to each of those points he's calling.

Hope I'm rockin like that some day!

It's amazing that someone who just turned 64 still has that much speed & power.....hopefully that will give you a little insight in to what we experienced 30+ yrs. ago when he was in his prime......people just don't realize. BQ

[Meat Shake]

Yeah, I was just in a bit of a pi$$y mood lastnight. But since our demo's are always attacked, I figured it was within the rules.

I meant no offense to Mr. Wang nor anyone else. Just pointing out that to Mr. Meat.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=T6MnGc2sAtk
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This is more along the lines of good Shuai Chiao demos.
Show me some SD at work.

[kwaichang]

Which one was you ? not too impressive by either one KC

[Meat Shake]

Which one was you ? not too impressive by either one KC

ROFL!

Wow...
You really know nothing of fighting. Neither was me, that was the chinese national team vs. thailand.
Sorry if there were no Chi blasts or death touches, but thats what real fighting looks like. Maybe next year someone will strike a crane pose or pull someones eye out...



Like I said, show me an SD video of more than a form. You cant produce one because the basic philosophy of SD is "too t3h d34d7y for the ring!!!??!!"...
riiiiight.....

[John Many Jars]

I liked the clip. Especially, when the San Shou guy throwing the Thai guy over the ropes. Speaking of which, his throws look very similar to the demo videos you posted. The techniques obviously carry over well to the ring.

Some of the comments on the clip said the San Shao guy looked more Muay Thai than the Muay Thai fighter and even though I know neither style that's what I was thinking.

If you recall, JP posted some clips of his sparring at a comp. and there was also a vid of a SD guy (w/ some ground training, I think) fighting and winning in the ring. So there are at least a couple out there. =\

[Meat Shake]

Actually, if you can find the links Id be very interested to see.

[kwaichang]

Yes I know "good" fighting and that aint it. Anybody with strength can do throws like that , no skill . So why take a gun to a knife fight anyway, I will be in texas in July or august , wil you be there MS ?? KC

[Judge Pen]

Actually, if you can find the links Id be very interested to see.

http://ezine.kungfumagazine.com/foru...ad.php?t=41609 (has a link to the SD guy in an amature MMA match.

And, for public ridicule: http://ezine.kungfumagazine.com/foru...ad.php?t=42125

[ninthdrunk]

Are shuai chiao fights always broken up so often? I know they're hitting pretty hard, and it's a lot more intense than it looks, but I gotta say, I was a little disappointed. I would think that a throwing art wouldn't break from the clinch, or right after a throw. It seemed more like point sparring with throws.

[BM2]

I watched Cung Le fight and he is impressive although I do not care for the rules, i.e. stopping the action after a take down and not continuing it on the ground.
Been looking to get a used DVD on his take downs.
It is my opinion that MS is using a poor way of explaining he prefers a style that is geared just for fighting. But he is ignorant of SD if he thinks there is no one that can fight in SD
It does take more time in TMA where forms have to be learned. It takes away from time spent on live training and sparring.