Cro Cop dropped

[SifuAbel]

I am still younger than you.

As for kicking, practice high kicking tell your blue in the face, but its not something I find usefull in the risk/reward system. I have more than decent physical attributes and conditioning but I still know that I am not Chuck Norris and I don't live in a Shaw Brothers video.

OK, so the translation should read, "I'm younger than you but my kicks still suck."

Everything has its place. If I see the opportunity to kick someone at my head level. I know I have the comfort, flexibility, speed, and power to do it. And I'm older than you are. And I can do it just as well. I don't restrict my choices on what others think is a bad choice. To me, its only a bad choice if I don't really have the skill. When the appropriate time and place for it arrives, it will be there with a vengeance.

Then again, I forgot that striving for excellence in skill has long been replaced by the commonality of mediocrity. God forbid one has to actually work to gain a specific skill.

[rogue]

I've been told so many times by so many people that those "other" techniques don't work that I figure all I'm left with is hitting the ground and doing the turtle. Fists are bad, open hand is not natural, head butts good, head butts bad, all fights go to the ground, what if he has buddies, and on and on. It's almost as bad as the snake oil the traditional are selling. The way I see it you do what you have to do with what's available.

[BraveMonkey]

I think a good head kick is a viable tool, given the circumstances, but I don't ever plan to use one to defend myself. Here's why:

1. I'm only 5ft6, so my feet don't reach many heads.

2. I'm 32 years old and find that those high kicks don't come without a little warm up. If my muscles are cool and I'm wearing jeans, there's no way I'm going to get my foot up over my head without pulling/tearing something important (and I don't mean my jeans).

3. It doesn't seem worth the risk. I train to kick below the solar plexus and if I can get a guy doubled over, I'd rather use my knee against his face.

Now, COULD I train my kicks better so that 1 and 2 are less of a factor? Sure, but I'd rather have well trained/powerful low kicks than put a lot of time into something that isn't ideal for my body type and probably won't ever serve me well. It's great to have an understanding and appreciation of many styles/techniques, but realistically not everything is well suited to everyone for practical use.

To those who can masterfully kick to the head, you have my respect and awe.

[Yao Sing]

Im a good fighter with glvoes on or in friendly sparring or what u see on ufc matches with the playing or feeling each other out, than going for the boom, shockalaka, etc. but on the streets before the fight even satrts I always feel like Im gonna lose or ams cared as hell and usually my hands or legs are shaking and I have no reflexes (even a siomple punch is hard to defend) and become slow, etc. and always lose in streetfights or get attacked fomr behind or something.

Beleive it or not I'm actually the opposite. I have trouble getting fired up for a friendly sparring match so I don't really try all that hard. In a competition I get nervous because of the crowd like having to get up and give a public speach.

In a real fight there's no time to worry about any of that and I do what's needed, I have no choice and the more pressure the harder I fight. I'm just weird like that.

Everything has its place. If I see the opportunity to kick someone at my head level. I know I have the comfort, flexibility, speed, and power to do it. And I'm older than you are. And I can do it just as well. I don't restrict my choices on what others think is a bad choice. To me, its only a bad choice if I don't really have the skill. When the appropriate time and place for it arrives, it will be there with a vengeance.

I'm probably older than both of you guys and the age factor just adds to the deception. Nobody will be expect a head kick from an older guy so it will be that much easier to pull off. Especially if you set it up by throwing a few mid-level kicks before hand.

I don't think Cro Cop expected a head kick so he dropped his guard to where he thought he would get hit. That's exactly why it worked. I guess for me because I'm not that good I rely a lot on deception and doing the unexpected.

Then again, I forgot that striving for excellence in skill has long been replaced by the commonality of mediocrity. God forbid one has to actually work to gain a specific skill.

There's a lot to be said for basic techniques that are quickly learned and effective. Nothing against that at all. The problem seems to be when anything beyond that is put down and ridiculed. Especially when some of our knowledgeable members put them down when in fact it's just their personal preference.

[sanjuro_ronin]

http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g1...onspiracy3.gif

Nice.

Mirco is a trained fighter that misread a kick and paid for it.
It Happens.

[Black Jack II]

BJ, It's more of a mind set of not getting caught up in techniques

Some people are more principle based, some more technique focused, some both, its all good. Like I already stated, somewhere at some time, some guy has used the most out of wack technique to pull himself out of a jam. No one holds the stamp on one way, just pick yours and go with what you got.

Everything has its place.

Come on lets be honest here. You know everything does not have its place.

When the appropriate time and place for it arrives, it will be there with a vengeance.

Hey, if you find those peachy spinning boot to the head moves are worth your time, go for it. If your so confidant to assume in your perceived kicking ability during a time of stress, maybe in a situation of unknown contact management, in a enviroment which is unflattering, then like every known rule or law, you could be the exception.

I will just stick to the side of the road that I think for me makes more sense.

[Shaolinlueb]

Why? It sure wasn't boring!

i wanted cro cop to win.

[SifuAbel]

Hey, if you find those peachy spinning boot to the head moves are worth your time, go for it. If your so confidant to assume in your perceived kicking ability during a time of stress, maybe in a situation of unknown contact management, in a enviroment which is unflattering, then like every known rule or law, you could be the exception.

I will just stick to the side of the road that I think for me makes more sense.

You've said absolutely nothing. This means nothing. Its still reads, "I'm lacking."

Stress, shmess, I don't have to think about it. I think that is the difference between us. Theres nothing "percieved" about my kicking ability. I don't practice by thinking about it. If it comes out, it comes out. Not only have I done it in a stress reaction. Its actually a reflex preference. To me its a third hand. I don't have to struggle with my kicks at all. Maybe you do and thats why you should stick to the simple stuff.

Btw, we're still talking about a round kick, not anything spinning. As it is, It wasn't even that good a round kick that put cop down.

Bovine = you

[Black Jack II]

You've said absolutely nothing. This means nothing. Its still reads, "I'm lacking

Because I find high kicks to be unsafe I am lacking?

LMAO...whatever

It's not like I have not spent years training in filipino low line kicking. It's just a different viewpoint.

Hey, if thats how you feel, more power to you man. Like I already pointed out, if you find yourself to be advocating high kicks as a good tactic of defense then by all means do so. We all know you got bills to pay.

Its actually a reflex preference. To me its a third hand. I don't have to struggle with my kicks at all. Maybe you do and thats why you should stick to the simple stuff.

Of course it is, your a virtuoso, a prodigy only one level lower on the scale of toughness than Shaft himself, as Christina Aguelleria would say, your the Djinni in the bottle man.

And no, its because simple stuff tends to work.

But since you like high kicks so much here is a video of one and the glory of misplaced youth.


http://vidmax.com/index.php/videos/view/36

[Shaolinlueb]

did i mention ganzaga's training facility is 10 minutes from my house?

[SifuAbel]

B
It's not like I have not spent years training in filipino low line kicking. It's just a different viewpoint.

Like I don't know how to kick low. What a moron.

Yeah, we all pay bills, chester. Although you pay yours by preaching.

[ChinoXL]

omg i just saw the fight; is crocops ankle okay?!

[MasterKiller]

Here is what is ankle looked like when he fell:

http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k2...oCapitated.jpg

[SifuAbel]

Thats gotta hurt!!!

[alchemist]

Cro Cop lost because he walked into the arena to Duran Duran. It sucked the power right out of him. Really though... Has anyone ever heard funnier walk-in music than that?