Originally Posted by
drleungjohn
Hey Victor-just off topic-based on what you know-did MY ever teach anybody all 8 sections of the knife besides his son?
LOL! I have no idea where people get these ideas. Good teachers don't leave all the knowledge in the hands of one person. If anything, William was forced by his father to work harder to get the knowledge than just about everyone else. (He did, BTW.)
Moy Yat taught the entire knife form as he learned it to probably over three dozen people. (Lee Moy Shan was not one of them.) Also, Victor's comment regarding "first group" was a reference to teaching in the U.S. A small group of Moy Yat's Hong Kong Students were taught it, too.
As far as the tape Victor refers to, probably close to 20 of Moy Yat's students have a copy of it. If memory serves, it contains the forms of Ip Ching, Ip Chun, and ... and ... crap! One other person I can't remember.
All three versions of the form on the tape were slightly different. They were slightly different than Moy Yat's version, too. He presented them without bias, and presented it as alternatives to his. (FWIW, the truth is he did indicate a very subtle bias towards Ip Ching's version of the choreography and away from the three others.)
"F@ck the form! Just hold the knives in your hands and practice what you already know. You do that a lot and you'll know the knives better than anyone who knows a f@cking form. You want a form? I got a tape. Four forms - you pick... and try not to kill yourself. Who the hell else is going to come visit me on Father's Day?"
-- Moy Yat, (to the best of my recollection w/o digging out an 8 year old log.)