all i can see in this argument is prideful youth hoping that what they think they have is better than what they don't. lol

having said that, I never learned any grappling in any cma I've studied and i still study and practice.

But, the wrestling I do is GR and when combined with cma kumna, I can do ok against jj pracs. It's not like mma is any sort of secret bomb. Its just another expression of martial art and it certainly has more than its fair share of not very good practitioners like any other practice.

Now that it is really popular, it probably has more people than ever that really suck at it.