Hehe I like resizing text to get my point across. Well Tattoo, when reading someone's comment on any given subject you should always connect it to their overall argument, train of thought along with the underlying comments that is prominent through out their discourse.
If you take this line "You should have 10-20 seconds to tap your opponent out" it can be inferred that if someone can not be tapped in 20-30 seconds then their is no skill But to take this comment alone and use it to assume would be inappropriate.
Take this comment "n the clinch you should have 3-4 seconds to get a throw or take your opponent to the ground." a skilled grappler should be able to do this if they had any skill correct?
But combine the above quoted comments and add it to this one here "Otherwise these matches just turn into tests of endurance and strength and not tests of skill." and you get the full picture of Fu pow's ignorance and what he thinks of MMA all together.
First off lets flesh this out a bit:
You should have 10-20 seconds to tap your opponent out: If Fu pow or yourself understood anything about grappling or fighting in general I wouldn't have to explain this comment but I fear I need to *sigh*
This is like saying a good prize fighter should knock out his opponent in the first round of the fight. Everyone here understands that the objective of a fight is to end it as soon as possible but doing so takes time, strategy and understanding of the game. Saying a grappler should only 10-20 sec is ignorant grappling mechanics.
Also this comment leaves a counter point argument option open if someone argues against Fu pow's point. Fu pow could retort " If he is a grappler of any skill he should be able to do it now problem"
Now this comment "n the clinch you should have 3-4 seconds to get a throw or take your opponent to the ground." falls under that above commentary about counter point options.
This is his cumulative point ,"Otherwise these matches just turn into tests of endurance and strength and not tests of skill." So as to gather from his argument above, if you clinch to much or grapple for to long the contest turns into an endurance and strength contest with no ability to test skill.
Mow to comment on the above: When you are a fighter, pro or otherwise, you understand that skill plays a good part in any upcoming bout and to assume otherwise would be ignorant. But a good fighter, or someone who knows about combat, also knows that your skill only truly tested once your endurance has been taxed and your strength is pushed to its limits. For Fu pow to make a comment about not testing skill but becoming a strength and endurance contest really portrays his ignorance about the martial arts or combat in general.
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Now on to your ignorance....
Tattoie
Dude, have you ever been sucker punched, bum rushed, jumped or even been hit really hard in a pillow fight?
Do you think people square off in the street and fight? 9/10 you are gonna be knocked to the ground and will have to fight your way to your feet. 9/10 times you will be attacked by someone who see you as an easy mark. They either weigh more than you or have a weapon. If you get knocked silly during an attack and you go to the floor do you think they are going to stop hitting you ?
ok lets continue shall we.....
Tattoie
You know you kind of sound like the same people who commented on Ali's rope a dope action. Or boo and squeal when a smart prize fighter clinches and tires their opponent knowing that they have the superior stamina. This is called "Combat strategy" I know, I know, it is something you are not to familiar with but here I'll explain ti a little bit better. It is showing weakness when you are at your strongest or showing great strength when you are at your weakest. wait wait let me put it even easier for you... You remember that time Kurt angle got hit in the head with a chair and made believe he was hurt, when he really wasn't?
When a grappler goes to the ground they are constantly playing out a battle of move and counter move or just ****ing laying on a person to tire them out. All the dancing prizer fighters do around the ring is the same thing but if you understood grappling you would understand that.....
A smart fighter understands to work towards their strengths and not their weakness. A really smart fighter works on both but still sticks with the bread an butter. BUt you say "undignified and an admission of inferiority " but the grappler wins... and this shows inferiority on who's part?
Plus, undignified? You are a ****ing moron.... you are the same people who says' Oh, in a really fight your shouldn't kick someone in the nuts or slam his head on the ground" Get out of your make believe, Mr Roger's, Pajamas and understand this... Fighting is about wining and surviving plain and simple. If being undignified means winning a bout or walking away safe... then I'll take it any day hands
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See this is where you may be "READING TO MUCH INTO THINGS "
people here have been saying the MMA "format" trained people are better prepared than BS trained kung fu people. If people thought grappling was superior to all then what would be the need to train in Thai boxing, Boxing, Judo or San Shou? People here are saying training training static Chin na, Forms, weapon sets, with non resistant partners, not using full contact at some point in time is not effective
and full of ****.
Fu Pow has been trying to validate what he does as being effective and reall and offering something wholly unique that is represented in MMA combat format or that could be more effective than anything already presented. He has been brought to the task to prove and thus far has proved himself to be a boob.