What is the most important element of a good fighter?

[David Jamieson]

The want to be a fighter.

[golden arhat]

HEARTis the most important thing


then basics, basics, basics

[Becca]

HEARTis the most important thing


then basics, basics, basics

Don't know why, but your post brought to mind "Killer" from the movie Million Dollar Baby. That kid had all the heart in the world, trained with everything he had... And couldn't figure out how they got the ice inside those bottles of water.

[Adventure427]

Well the elements a good RING fighter may be different from a good STREET fighter.

For the RING:

Trainning Methods
Conditioning
Skill
Individual


Now any of these elements missing is disaster, i put them in that order because if you dont train for the ring you wont last...conditioning/trainning methods go hand in hand but if you just started trainning properly you may not be conditioned yet.

Skill is important otherwise you wont get any hits in.

And the individual is important because not everyone is a fighter or has the mindset to go in there and last. But even if you do have the mindset, if you aren't conditioned you are gonna get your a$$ kicked.


For the STREET i'd put them differently.

Individual
Trainning Methods
Skill
Conditioning.


Individual first because if you are EXTREMLY conflict avoidant and can't be aggressive enough to end the confrontation or start it first to end it, then you'll probably get hit first and if you get hit hard enough, lose the fight right there.

Trainning methods because if you aren't trained to use every weapon you have at your disposal you're at a disadvantage than someone who is. Now you dont have to necessarily USE all of them (I personally wouldn't kick most likely)

I put skill above conditioning because most real fights dont last very long (The ones i've seen/been in) so if you can land the right blow at the right time you can call it a day once you get in position.

Conditioning I put last because again most fights dont last long, but its on the list because i was in a fight that went a grueling 11minutes, and i would have LOVED to have more conditioining because thats why I lost...luckily it was someone i knew so we could stop the fight once we were done, otherwise i could have got killed.



Just my opinions, and i'm sure there are plenty of exceptions to them just like there is to everyone elses.

[PangQuan]

heart

conditioning/training

instinct


I lump conditioning and training and skill together because i believe they are co existant

[sanjuro_ronin]

What about chi ?
Where's the chi people ??

[PangQuan]

What about chi ?
Where's the chi people ??

lol !

Thats just a given my friend, we all know that no one can become a real kungfu master until you can move your masters "beverage can" with your Qi

[Yum Cha]

Don't forget the ugly guy,
He doesn't care if his face gets effed up.

[eomonroe00]

Some interesting ideas, someone said skill is least important and he has seen proof, I have not seen proof of my idea, but I think one wouldn’t need endurance if the skill is there, for example many say fights should not last more than a minute, unless you are dead evenly matched.
1. skill, technique, attitude( I think power, body connection, and energy are all part of skill)
2. endurance

I think strength is the least important-at least coming from a kung fu, not a ground fighting background-because many people are strong or have larger muscles, but have not learned how to move that strength through the body efficienty, much of the power is lost in transition

[Iron_Eagle_76]

Some interesting ideas, someone said skill is least important and he has seen proof, I have not seen proof of my idea, but I think one wouldn’t need endurance if the skill is there, for example many say fights should not last more than a minute, unless you are dead evenly matched.
1. skill, technique, attitude( I think power, body connection, and energy are all part of skill)
2. endurance

I think strength is the least important-at least coming from a kung fu, not a ground fighting background-because many people are strong or have larger muscles, but have not learned how to move that strength through the body efficienty, much of the power is lost in transition

Being scrawny and weak is clearly the way to go.

[eomonroe00]

that is clearly what i was saying

[SevenStar]

Coach isn't the one in the ring. Some fighters don't lesten to thier corner well when fighting- how's the coach going to help then? What if the coach isn't a good match for the fighter?

the coach is the one that gets you ready for the ring. the coach will still help between rounds, as that's what seconds are for. what you listed still falls under the category of a good coach.

Changing the style you are fighting with doesn't make the other style a failure.

it makes it a failure for the given venue.

[SevenStar]

I think strength is the least important-at least coming from a kung fu, not a ground fighting background-because many people are strong or have larger muscles, but have not learned how to move that strength through the body efficienty, much of the power is lost in transition

not true. watch the push hands competition vids on youtube - it looks like judo matches. IDEALLY you want to use as little force as possible. BJJ is the same way. realistically it doesn't work that way against a resisting opponent unless you are much better than they are.

[Becca]

it makes it a failure for the given venue.

Only a failure in that venue if you're dumb enough to use it in the wrong venue. Goes right back to the individual making good choises. It'ain't the style's fault if the person training in it got thier head up thier bum...

[SevenStar]

Only a failure in that venue if you're dumb enough to use it in the wrong venue. Goes right back to the individual making good choises. It'ain't the style's fault if the person training in it got thier head up thier bum...

so a tkd guy should never enter muay thai or mma? heck the original premise of mma was to allow people from a variety of styles to compete with eachother. But, you have to train for the specific venue - training methods.