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    Quote Originally Posted by Nick Forrer View Post
    He said he was tapped by Rickson...not that he tapped him. BTW do me a favour - get Kron to show you his choke from within the bottom guys half guard that he does in competition and then tell us how he does it
    LOL. My bad. I need to learn how to not read so fast. I'll ask Kron though! I don't have a lesson till next week because of the worlds. I miss BJJ class

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    Quote Originally Posted by RonH View Post
    I wouldn't want to sprawl and end up on the ground.
    Just stop. You are embarrassing yourself.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RonH View Post

    I wouldn't want to sprawl and end up on the ground.

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    If you sprawled properly, wouldn't you end up neutralizing the takedown though, and then quickly moving to get to the person's back?

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    Quote Originally Posted by SenseiShellie View Post
    If you sprawled properly, wouldn't you end up neutralizing the takedown though, and then quickly moving to get to the person's back?
    Depends on the sprawl. Several variations leave you in front of your opponent or at an angle (even better), ready to rain down the damage!

    Of course, if people study takedowns and their defenses, they will realize this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Merryprankster View Post
    Depends on the sprawl. Several variations leave you in front of your opponent or at an angle (even better), ready to rain down the damage!

    Of course, if people study takedowns and their defenses, they will realize this.
    so basically, you're in a north south position when you sprawl, or while sprawling, you turn the corner? sounds like a good time to me...

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    Quote Originally Posted by SenseiShellie View Post
    If you sprawled properly, wouldn't you end up neutralizing the takedown though, and then quickly moving to get to the person's back?
    RD'S Alias - 1A mentioned that one can sprawl and then, get back onto their feet. While you can have one without the other, I was referring to when you sprawl and end up on your back or your side/whatever and you're on the ground.

    Now, it is possible to still remain in control and dominate the situation, while briefly being on the ground and with having the opponent on top/with their arm around your neck/etc., but that would require having the end result with you performing a move that doesn't leave you on your back or with their arm around your neck or whatever.

    A big amount of my training consists on keeping myself from being brought down to the ground, even though I have studied ground fighting. There are many advantages to being near or on the ground, whether it is for leverage or for something else, but typically, I don't being on the ground for any extended period of time, unless I'm working on ground fighting.

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    no, you do a buck back sprawl in combination with a bit of a head snap.

    you stuff the incoming shot, stay separated and in a good position to bang.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RonH View Post
    RD'S Alias - 1A mentioned that one can sprawl and then, get back onto their feet. While you can have one without the other, I was referring to when you sprawl and end up on your back or your side/whatever and you're on the ground.

    Now, it is possible to still remain in control and dominate the situation, while briefly being on the ground and with having the opponent on top/with their arm around your neck/etc., but that would require having the end result with you performing a move that doesn't leave you on your back or with their arm around your neck or whatever.

    A big amount of my training consists on keeping myself from being brought down to the ground, even though I have studied ground fighting. There are many advantages to being near or on the ground, whether it is for leverage or for something else, but typically, I don't being on the ground for any extended period of time, unless I'm working on ground fighting.
    I was asking a generalized question. It had nothing to do with your personal training. Merryprankster answered my question.

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    A big amount of my training consists on keeping myself from being brought down to the ground, even though I have studied ground fighting

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    If you have studied ground fighting, how come you don't know what a sprawl is?

    I was referring to when you sprawl and end up on your back or your side/whatever and you're on the ground.

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    A sprawl is when your feet scoot back, but your upper body leans down on your incoming opponent. You are on top of them leaning down, driving them into the ground. You don't end up on your back or side with them on top of you. That is what happens when you DON'T Sprawl.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RonH View Post
    I was referring to when you sprawl and end up on your back or your side/whatever and you're on the ground.

    Just keep digging the hole deeper.....
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    How to beat Charge/Gracie Juijitsu

    I would like to put-up later the post I saved on a public computer before the time ran out.

    Cross arms; seperate arms when charged hitting side of face/head and intercepting the grabbing clenching-attempt arm (same side as face strike); keep that side foot plantedgo back (lean-ish) at an anglesupport with other leg;-allowin incomming momentum of person by you.

    Seperated arms stay apart to guard or use blocking arm to push head at ear/back of head onward...perhaps his body passing near/over you; trip/thr keeping initial planted foot planted.


    Should keep the arms from closing and remove you from direct absorbtion of charger's momentum.

    I theorize though I review by conceptualization. How this doesn't work would be help full...If you've tried it I'd like to hear since I just came-up with it. If you did it, comments please. If you just have thoughts on how ineffective it sounds, awesome.

    But on beating Gracie Juijitsu, they take your time, use leverage and are strong through practice, beat Gracie Juijitsu...Know the possibilities dont get into bad positions or get out things that start to look bad (needs experience or increased perception skill), learn breathing because they boa-it--wear you breathless-ish...

    Study Breathings while constricted, Be practical and appropriate; to perhaps beat Gracie Juijitsu, my say.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SenseiShellie View Post
    Wow..you say you tapped out my instructor's dad? I find it very hard to believe...especially since he has a record of like 400 and 0 in grappling matches, with an 11-0 MMA record. I seriously find it hard to believe. What is your real name? I'll ask Kron about you, you know, just to verify your claim.
    Just for the record, Rickson is not 400-0 in grappling. He lost a Sambo match to Mark (or was it Ron- one of the two brothers, anyways) Tripp.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SenseiShellie View Post
    Wow..you say you tapped out my instructor's dad? I find it very hard to believe...
    I find it hard to believe that's how you read that?

    Ron Tripp, in a sambo contest BTW
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nick Forrer View Post
    Superb trolling, really superb. My hat goes off to you - its a veritable master class. Tell me do you do stand up comedy - if so, when and where?
    Now this is one of the most impressive posts on this thread. I couldn't stand reading RonH's full post and missed this. Nick, you the man. How do you stand reading his ENTIRE post? Your reply gets a solid 9.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Knifefighter View Post
    Just for the record, Rickson is not 400-0 in grappling. He lost a Sambo match to Mark (or was it Ron- one of the two brothers, anyways) Tripp.
    That's what his record says on wikipedia.

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