hey, none of that here...get a room!
"George never did wake up. And, even all that talking didn't make death any easier...at least not for us. Maybe, in the end, all you can really hope for is that your last thought is a nice one...even if it's just about the taste of a nice cold beer."
"If you find the right balance between desperation and fear you can make people believe anything"
"Is enlightenment even possible? Or, did I drive by it like a missed exit?"
It's simpler than you think.
I could be completely wrong"
"George never did wake up. And, even all that talking didn't make death any easier...at least not for us. Maybe, in the end, all you can really hope for is that your last thought is a nice one...even if it's just about the taste of a nice cold beer."
"If you find the right balance between desperation and fear you can make people believe anything"
"Is enlightenment even possible? Or, did I drive by it like a missed exit?"
It's simpler than you think.
I could be completely wrong"
mas judt,
Apologies. I read what I wrote, puzzled a moment over your response, then realized what my post must have looked like. I emphasized the word training to distinguish that I do not compete at high levels. I didn't want anybody to think I was claiming a particular level of skill and experience in judo that I can't back up, and do not have it was not meant to suggest that "I have experience and clearly you do not, so what do you mean gripping isn't a major judo thing, etc."
I know nothing of SC, other than what I have read here, so my comment that you made an interesting observation was exactly that; gripping seems to be a tremendous focus of high level judo, which, perhaps, stands in contrast to those learning to throw...a different emphasis perhaps? Dunno.
Last edited by Merryprankster; 02-16-2008 at 12:06 PM.
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"George never did wake up. And, even all that talking didn't make death any easier...at least not for us. Maybe, in the end, all you can really hope for is that your last thought is a nice one...even if it's just about the taste of a nice cold beer."
"If you find the right balance between desperation and fear you can make people believe anything"
"Is enlightenment even possible? Or, did I drive by it like a missed exit?"
It's simpler than you think.
I could be completely wrong"
MP - not a biggie. I was just clarifying that I don't know everything about Judo and can only speak to my experiences.
The problem with many of these kinds of discussions is they often fail in clearly defining differences. I remember a thread that sought to make the point that certain wrestling moves or weightlifting moves did the *same* thing as certain moves in Chen Taiji. And while, on a superficial level the poster was correct - you will syill never develop Chen specific skills with those other pursuits.
I don't see that so much here, as both are stand up grappling arts so they have a lot more in common than they don't. But there are plus/minus differences between the two both generally and specifically, but it does not devalue either. It just depends on the goal you are seeking to achieve.
OSO and everyone that may have questions:
It does not matter what style of SC jacket you wear at our tournament. It does not matter what color they are. You can cut the sleeves off a Judo jacket if you want. (An expensive cut at $200).
SC jackets have shorter tighter sleeves so there is less ability to grip from the sleeve. They are tighter around the body as well. This to make it a bit harder for fighters grab and grip the jackets.
Anyone that has Sc rules questions, please let me know.
Ginosifu
ok, sweet. thanks.
"George never did wake up. And, even all that talking didn't make death any easier...at least not for us. Maybe, in the end, all you can really hope for is that your last thought is a nice one...even if it's just about the taste of a nice cold beer."
"If you find the right balance between desperation and fear you can make people believe anything"
"Is enlightenment even possible? Or, did I drive by it like a missed exit?"
It's simpler than you think.
I could be completely wrong"
OSO,
Just finished a converstion with John Ervin. He stated he will allow any style Shuai Chiao jacket. They must be a thick heavy weight material jacket. He will not allow modified karate Gi's. I think the Combat Shuai Chiao guys modify their karate gi's and thats why they are a bit cheaper.
So if it looks like something other than a SC or Judo jacket, then it will not be allowed.
Ginosifu
ok, so the Combat SC tops are out because they are thin but a modified single weave judo jacket will be ok?
just trying to get the details straight so we come prepared. thanks.
"George never did wake up. And, even all that talking didn't make death any easier...at least not for us. Maybe, in the end, all you can really hope for is that your last thought is a nice one...even if it's just about the taste of a nice cold beer."
"If you find the right balance between desperation and fear you can make people believe anything"
"Is enlightenment even possible? Or, did I drive by it like a missed exit?"
It's simpler than you think.
I could be completely wrong"
I think they will be ok, but you should call John and make sure. I am not familiar with the Judo jackets.
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i'd a said it was ripstop fabric like the old jungle weight bdu's but yea, light weight and strong.
"George never did wake up. And, even all that talking didn't make death any easier...at least not for us. Maybe, in the end, all you can really hope for is that your last thought is a nice one...even if it's just about the taste of a nice cold beer."
"If you find the right balance between desperation and fear you can make people believe anything"
"Is enlightenment even possible? Or, did I drive by it like a missed exit?"
It's simpler than you think.
I could be completely wrong"