Originally Posted by
KPM
Well I can quote you directly:
---Yes! Thanks! Nowhere there do I say or even suggest that sport tournaments are useless!
As for Nastula, I should point out again that he entered MMA as a beginner versus very experienced opponents.
---And I should point out again that after winning something like 300 Judo matches straight....he lost when he competed outside the context of Judo. Therefore his Judo Randori in itself didn't seem to prepare him for EVERY situation.
So was it realistic? He faced someone that wasn't responding like a Judo player....and he lost. Again....this isn't and wasn't meant as a knock against Judo or Nastula. The premise originally presented was that Judo Randori training was more realistic and more useful than Wing Chun Chi Sao training. It ain't necessarily so!
Well...turn it around, how do you think a wing chun person with 300 chi sao matches would have done? Probably wouldn't have lasted a microsecond, same as how most wing chun guys have performed in MMA. So how does that look for wing chun as a whole?
I say this because most of the responses to this will be soimething like "well those guys weren't good at wing chun" or "the rules don't lend themselves well to wing chun" or whatever. The fact of the matter is, MMA is the closest thing to real fighting one can get to without really fighting on the street. The rules are so minimal that they won't make a difference to any style that enters. So what's left then?
The martial artist themselves. That is the single most important determinant of one's success or failure in a fight. Their conditioning, and training methods are more important than that style itself, though the style's techniques do play a role as well as there are some that are simply not condusive for fighting. But no matter what style it is; if you're fighting someone that eclipses you in skill level and experience, you're more than likely going to lose that bout.
Last edited by SAAMAG; 05-02-2008 at 08:50 AM.
"I don't know if anyone is known with the art of "sitting on your couch" here, but in my eyes it is also to be a martial art.
It is the art of avoiding dangerous situations. It helps you to avoid a dangerous situation by not actually being there. So lets say there is a dangerous situation going on somewhere other than your couch. You are safely seated on your couch so you have in a nutshell "difused" the situation."