Obama/Biden vs. McCain/Palin

[MasterKiller]

FYI, the last Democrat Presidential candidate to get over 50% of the vote was Jimmy Carter.

OK...so how does the media prevent you guys from electing a true conservative, then?

[1bad65]

OK...so how does the media prevent you guys from electing a true conservative, then?

I said they have been successful portraying conservatism as something it is not.

Have you been attending the 'Tom Fox School of Reading Comprehension'?

[MasterKiller]

I said they have been successful portraying conservatism as something it is not.

Have you been attending the 'Tom Fox School of Reading Comprehension'?

If you are getting over 50% of the vote anyway, what difference does it make?

You should be able to nominate a real conservative and get him elected every time.

[RD'S Alias - 1A]

True conservatives are generally too smart to run for the office in the first place.

IE: They are too deadly for the ring.

[1bad65]

You should be able to nominate a real conservative and get him elected every time.

Thats not how the primary process works. Registered voters can vote in either primary. I feel McCain won because alot Independants and moderate Dems voted for him in the primaries. Especially because the Dem primary was between 2 liberals anyway, while the Republican one had a more broad sprectrum in choice of candidates.

[Mas Judt]

Ha! With the 'two-party' system controlling things, it is not likely any true liberal (or conservative as they are called today) would ever get elected. The Republicans and the Democrats have worked for decades to make the hurdle so high at a local level, that competing parties cannot get a good toe-hold.

Not being an idealist, but rather a realist, I'm happy with incremental change. It is possible in a relatively free society and far, far less destructive than radical change. The national socialists have been crafting the debate since Woodrow Wilson - most in both parties subscribe to basic tenets of 'progressiveism' that would be completely rejected by our founding fathers. However, the Republicans continue to give us an opportunity to stall the creeping statism. Not much, but a little.

On another note, with world institutions being built up around corparatism, could an argument be made that it is essentially a good thing?

Why? Why not?

Discuss...

[MasterKiller]

Thats not how the primary process works. Registered voters can vote in either primary. I feel McCain won because alot Independants and moderate Dems voted for him in the primaries. Especially because the Dem primary was beetween 2 liberals anyway, while the Republican one had a more broad sprectrum in choice of candidates.

So who were the real conservative candidates that were covertly thwarted by this vast liberal voting conspiracy?

[1bad65]

So who were the real conservative candidates that were covertly thwarted by this vast liberal voting conspiracy?

Dude, it's no conspiracy. You're putting words in my mouth. I've not even used that word. Or said the media prevents anything either.

FYI, you've already had 2 people (one being me) answer your question about who we considered conservative candidates.

[MasterKiller]

Or said the media prevents anything either.

I said they have been successful portraying conservatism as something it is not.

If they [the media] have successfully portrayed conservatism as something it is not, has this prevented conservatives from electing real representatives of their party?

FYI, you've already had 2 people (one being me) answer your question about who we considered conservative candidates.

This is the only list I saw.

Ronald Reagan

Calvin Coolidge

Fred Thompson.

I don't think all these guys had their hat in the ring this time around.

So, Fred Thompson is a real conservative?

[1bad65]

If they [the media] have successfully portrayed conservatism as something it is not, has this prevented conservatives from electing real represenatives of their party?

You're smarter than this. Ok.

But let's take it slow. First off it's the Republican Party, not the Conservative Party. So of course not every candidate chosen to represent the party will be a staunch conservative.

And yes, the media and the Democrats (which is what I said), have portrayed conservatism as something it's not. We are all portrayed as rich, white, only cutting taxes for the rich, racist, sexist, wanting to take away EVERY social program, pro death penalty, crazy religious, etc. That is not true.

I'll give you my quick, bare-bones answer as to what true conservatism is; It is the practice of minimizing Government interference in people's lives and letting them make their own decisions and choose their own path in life.

I don't think all these guys are currently available. So, Fred Thompson is a real conservative?

Thompson is quite conservative. His late entry into the race was his downfall, imo. Ron Paul and Alan Keyes were mentioned as well.

[MasterKiller]

But let's take it slow. First off it's the Republican Party, not the Conservative Party. So of course not every candidate chosen to represent the party will be a staunch conservative.

Why aren't more republicans conservative?

I'll give you my quick, bare-bones answer as to what true conservatism is; It is the practice of minimizing Government interference in people's lives and letting them make their own decisions and choose their own path in life.

Do you believe ****sexuals should be allowed to legally marry?

[1bad65]

Why aren't more republicans conservative?

They are alot more conservative than Democrats. And like Mas Judt seemed to say, the lesser of two evils. I voted for Bush for that reason. But I proudly voted for Paul and Keyes.

Do you believe ****sexuals should be allowed to legally marry?

No. But let me preface that by saying the Federal Government should not be involved in the institution of marriage in the first place. Marriage should be between 2 people and their religion/priest/pastor/rabbi, etc. The IRS of all people should not be involved.

[MasterKiller]

No. But let me preface that by saying the Federal Government should not be involved in the institution of marriage in the first place. Marriage should be between 2 people and their religion/priest/pastor/rabbi, etc. The IRS of all people should not be involved.

Marraige is a legal contract that binds assets and property. Are ****sexuals exempt from this protection from the state?

I was married by a judge, not a priest/pastor/rabbi.

Why can't you condone gay marraige if people are supposed to live their lives without government intereference?

[Lucas]

Marraige is a legal contract that binds assets and property. Are ****sexuals exempt from this protection from the state?

I was married by a judge, not a priest/pastor/rabbi.

Why can't you condone gay marraige if people are supposed to live their lives without government intereference?

i wonder how many people are wondering if you had a gay marriage

[1bad65]

Marraige is a legal contract that binds assets and property. Are ****sexuals exempt from this protection from the state?

I was married by a judge, not a priest/pastor/rabbi.

Why can't you condone gay marraige if people are supposed to live their lives without government intereference?

Notice I said the Federal Government. At some level there has to be government involvement for the reason you stated, property and assets. But I don't think that the Federal Government should be involved.

To me in a political sense, if someone wants to engage in a gay lifestyle it is their choice and no law should prevent it. I admit my religious beliefs view it is wrong.

I also feel the exact same way about drugs and prostitution as well.