First Weapon Choice

[TenTigers]

Fair enough. I will not disagree.

However staff is also useful for many of those objects.

And anyone fighting with a rubber chicken...

hey, besides ms13,we got clowns here. Real fukin clowns. I hate clowns.

[Lucas]

thats funny because when i practice my broadsword i usually use my machette for some reason. it just sits there in the corner mocking me.

[Exadon]

Do be cautious about people who claim that their martial art is 65 generations old but they deny the original name because "it's all built on lies"... I'd be VERY cautious.

I believe the intent of his email was to show that he agrees with the fact that a martial art that is 65 generations old is hard to believe

as he said

They claim it has been practiced for 65 generations which would make it older than Shaolin kung fu, a little bit hard to believe.

The person who emailed me this I trust. My uncle use to be a student at the same school. The Si-fu of the school is the founder of USAWFK. It satisfied my personal research

But any input is greatly appreciated.

[sanjuro_ronin]

I liked the concept-kill the people, save the buildings.
If we used that in Iraq, we could have then gone in and had condos, and open up a Trump Taj Mahal Casino.

That's what I have been saying all along !

[sanjuro_ronin]

hey, besides ms13,we got clowns here. Real fukin clowns. I hate clowns.

Hey, just because of that one night you wanna forget with Loonette the Clown, don't paint all clowns as "pulp fiction" wannabes !

[David Jamieson]

65 generations is about 5000 years almost.
I doubt any "system" of martial arts has been around that long.

staff is called gwun (kinda like gun), but "staff" is fine.

[Lucas]

65 generations is about 5000 years almost.
I doubt any "system" of martial arts has been around that long.

staff is called gwun (kinda like gun), but "staff" is fine.

i would highly doubt a 5000 year old anything.

sometimes i call my staff a 'stick'

[banditshaw]

To echo what TT has said the Broadsword is applicable to any short stick, tire iron, machete ,etc.

I actually have a nice machete. I carry it in the back of my car with my gardening gloves and plastic bags. Ya never know when your gonna have a need for some brush cutting.

The MS13 guys are more prone to carry pistols and AK's in my neck of the woods. But I have heard of them beheading rivals in some areas. In LA we have a dense population of MS13 and they are frickin' crazy!

I saw some old timer philipino go at it with a machete against a drunk awhile back in front of a market.... scary stuff.

[Exadon]

65 generations is about 5000 years almost.
I doubt any "system" of martial arts has been around that long.

staff is called gwun (kinda like gun), but "staff" is fine.

Thanks for the help, and yes I agree with your statement above. Maybe because I cut the email out of context it seemed as if he was trying to say their system was 65 generations long

He was in fact saying that the si-fu is unsure of where his style originated from. And that their were rumors about where it was originated...but the said rumors were built on lies.

The sifu of the school is also the founder of

http://www.usawkf.org/home.htm

and more information on the school can be found on

http://www.gohskungfu.com (the page is not the best webpage around…I admit that)

I was most impressed when I first went to the school and saw Sang Qian training black sash
students in Wu-shu (something I would like to train in once I advance in kung-fu). It seems Sang Qian
is a well known champion in China…and to see her in action was truly amazing.

[Lucas]

he trains sanshou!!

[Reverend Tap]

I would personally start with the staff, especially if it's the first weapon you've ever really trained in. Starting with a sword, you have a 98% chance of swinging around a feather-light SLO ("sword-like object") that won't do much for you in terms of starting to learn to make a weapon a functional part of your body, and a 2% chance of training with something with some actual heft, which for a first weapon could be a bit more hazardous than swinging a stick around (don't get me wrong on the danger potential of a staff; it's a weapon after all, a sword is just easier to hurt oneself with).

Either way, though, after you choose and gain some proficiency with the basic techniques, I would encourage you (if you're looking for real-world applicability in your weapons training) to try transferring the techniques to other similarly-shaped objects of differing sizes and weights. Transferral is about the greatest weapon skill you can master, but it needs to be practiced just like any other, or else the differences between your training weapons and whatever comes to hand in a situation will absolutely throw you off. This is, of course, something for a little down the road.

[Oso]

i thought the Tien Shan Pai debate had a huge thread not that long ago??? too lazy to look for it and no real need to bring it up to beat again i don't think...


Exadon: go with the staff first, just my opinion but you'll get better quicker with all weapons later on by going with it first. Also, take anything negative said here with a grain of salt...just as you should probably take anything said by anyone about their martial history with a grain of salt. keep your wits and common sense about you as you train and if it's not right for you or you're not learning what you want...find someplace else.

[YouKnowWho]

but was wondering what choice other users of this forum made as their first weapon?

I'll pick up my long heavy sharp Miao Dao. The reason is simple. Almost all the moves in Miao Dao form are in the open hand forms. If I have to fight against Zombies, I'll not choice guns (my bullets may run out) but Miao Dao. The weight and long reach of Miao Dao will give me good feeling.

It was used to scare the sh!t out of Japanese pirates. You call your sword a samurai sword? I'll show you what a real samurai sword suppose to look like.

http://johnswang.com/miao_dao.wmv

[Oso]

that's freaking awesome, YKW...but, you know, i think he was asking about which weapon to learn first


by the way, what does 'miao dao' mean? big ****ing knife?

[YouKnowWho]

苗刀 - sword look like rice grass.

i think he was asking about which weapon to learn first

In that case I'll just pick a plain, nothing fancy "staff".