Why Jiu-Jitsu is more important than Kung Fu

[Knifefighter]

On this, we agree...

As for the rest, I don't presume to tell others what their ranks mean or tell them how or what they should practice... so return the favor

Hmm, interesting that you somehow feel that my explaining how the BJJ community works is me telling someone what they should practice.

Is somebody feeling defensive about his lack of "official" BJJ rank?

Or maybe the fact that the ranks achieved by those in his school are not recognized by the BJJ community as a whole and, as such, means less money coming in?

[TenTigers]

the Gracies created BJJ from Judo Ne-waza. Since then there have been many offshoots, each with their own curricullum. THEY decide what is and what is not a BB in THEIR BJJ, so yes-you can get a BB in BJJ with no gi-if that is their version of the system. Just like all the offshoots of Shorin-ryu.

[Wild Monk]

Hmm, interesting that you somehow feel that my explaining how the BJJ community works is me telling someone what they should practice.

Is somebody feeling defensive about his lack of "official" BJJ rank?

Or maybe the fact that the ranks achieved by those in his school are not recognized by the BJJ community as a whole and, as such, means less money coming in?

I take back everything I said KF it seems to me you ARE here to bash on anyone who a displays a ounce of knowledge. My apologies sincerely

[Wild Monk]

the Gracies created BJJ from Judo Ne-waza. Since then there have been many offshoots, each with their own curricullum. THEY decide what is and what is not a BB in THEIR BJJ, so yes-you can get a BB in BJJ with no gi-if that is their version of the system. Just like all the offshoots of Shorin-ryu.

Which are all off shoots of TCMA thank you .



VIVA TCMA

[Knifefighter]

My apologies sincerely

Apology accepted.

[MasterKiller]

the Gracies created BJJ from Judo Ne-waza. Since then there have been many offshoots, each with their own curricullum. THEY decide what is and what is not a BB in THEIR BJJ, so yes-you can get a BB in BJJ with no gi-if that is their version of the system. Just like all the offshoots of Shorin-ryu.

I disagree. Like KF said, A LOT of BJJ involves grip work. If you do not practice the grip work, you cannot rank in BJJ. You can rank is XYZ Jiu-Jitsu, but it's not BJJ or GJJ wihout the gi.

[lkfmdc]

Hmm, interesting that you somehow feel that my explaining how the BJJ community works is me telling someone what they should practice.

Is somebody feeling defensive about his lack of "official" BJJ rank?

Or maybe the fact that the ranks achieved by those in his school are not recognized by the BJJ community as a whole and, as such, means less money coming in?

LMFAO

Woke up on the wrong side of the bed today?

Read into/interpret whatever you want my friend. Actually on the East Coast we are fine, get along with most of the community, and like I said we have good "credentials".

I mostly just laugh at the fuss over Eddie Bravo, who I have no direct affiliation with. I just respect his skills and methods.

In today's MMA craze, I actually think no-gi is a HUGE plus BTW

[Knifefighter]

In today's MMA craze, I actually think no-gi is a HUGE plus BTW

I agree... however, I also believe those who are interested in self-defense are doing themselves a huge disservice by ignoring the gi.

[Lucas]

this thread has a lot of attention from grapplers at the moment so ill ask a question.

ill be starting judo in a month, and im wondering how long i should wait, or if i should wait at all before I start some form of JJ as well.

basically I started training in striking, and ive been told judo guys can be some of the harder guys to take to the ground, from there i want to develop my ground game with jiujitsu.

should i train judo and jj simultaneously ?

[Wild Monk]

Yes you can train both at the same time some schools teach Judo and BJJ together first half of class Judo and other half BJJ

[lkfmdc]

I agree... however, I also believe those who are interested in self-defense are doing themselves a huge disservice by ignoring the gi.

shades of gray.... people wear jackets, learning to use clothing has practical self defense applications

Learning elaborate grips based upon the idea your opponent also knows gripping, and it going to counter with "move x" become pointless

I've seen too much stuff that is only relevant to sport BJJ being obsessed about

[Knifefighter]

this thread has a lot of attention from grapplers at the moment so ill ask a question.

ill be starting judo in a month, and im wondering how long i should wait, or if i should wait at all before I start some form of JJ as well.

basically I started training in striking, and ive been told judo guys can be some of the harder guys to take to the ground, from there i want to develop my ground game with jiujitsu.

should i train judo and jj simultaneously ?

It doesn't really matter. You will do some throws in BJJ and some newaza in Judo. Do judo for a while and then BJJ or do both at the same time. One will supplement the other either way you do it.

[Lucas]

well the thing is the judo dojo ill be joining does not teach jj. its just judo and kendo/iaido so ill be going to a different source to aquire jj.

[Lucas]

It doesn't really matter. You will do some throws in BJJ and some newaza in Judo. Do judo for a while and then BJJ or do both at the same time. One will supplement the other either way you do it.

sounds like a plan. ill probably stick with the judo for a few months, then hopefully when i start jj some things will be more familiar to me.

[1bad65]

The gi is applicable in some self-defense situations. A few years ago there was a street fight between a large high-school football player and a BJJ guy who was quite small. The BJJ guy used a collar choke from the bottom to actually kill his attacker. It was caught on tape by the security camera at the McDonalds it happened at.