W...T...F are you talking about bringing up the Holocaust? I never mentioned that: of course it happened. And yes, of course the Japanese were responsible for a lot of horrors in China. So what? The FACT is Yip Man fled Foshan to protect his family from the Chinese Nationalists, who themselves massacred and summarily executed thousands, and whose Chang Kai Shek hated the communists more than the Japanese. The Chinese Civil war killed over 3,000,000 soldiers and uncounted (and covered up by Chinese historians) civilians. Mao is estimated to have killed 50-70,000,000 by some historians.
I don't think the Japanese have any right to complain that the Chinese complain too much, or to stop saying sorry. And I don't believe financial recompense is ever enough for those horrors, but it is one of the only legitimate ways of attempting to redress some of the balance.
Japan paid a billion dollars to the Philippines, Burma, Indonesia and Vietnam between '55 and '59 (more in today's money), and ten billion later. They paid $25 billion to China and Korea in assets, reparations and indemnity for refused reparations.
Plus, they have apologised a couple of times: here.
I would like my country to apologise more strongly to India, China, Palestine, Iran, Kenya, Iraq and countless other countries we ****ed up too, and go some way towards real investment in their futures too.
That doesn't change the fact that in this case, it was China's atrocity and it's high time they took responsibility for them and stopped blaming the Japanese every time they want to draw attention away from their failed policies.
I know it's only a movie, and it's like taking 'Red Dawn' seriously... but that piece of **** had a jingoistic effect on its viewers too, and that was 25 years ago.
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