"Loy Lau Hui Sung"
Ed
"Loy Lau Hui Sung"
Ed
Agreed, but you also said:
And that is not the case.No - the only suggested application is when you are grabbed...otherwise elbows are much too slow and inaccurate and potentially put you in a very bad position and other techniques are far superior.
And that can almost be said about every technique.
Besides if you trained with Gary I don't think you would say :
About MT, Gary Lam has much respect for MT.Yeah - ring sport, wearing gloves blah blah blah.
Psalms 144:1
Praise be my Lord my Rock,
He trains my hands for war, my fingers for battle !
Read/you should know the kun kuit (look it up):
"Loy Lau Hui Sung"
Simply stated, 99% of the time that elbows are used they violate one (or more) of our core principles.
MT is limited itself by the weapons it can use because they have to wear gloves when they fight and yes, I know that Gary respects MT as he trained in it and we have great respect for ALL arts.
Ed
Whose core principles? Not the WC/WT i've ever learned. Again, as long as your not flying in a la Tony Jaa with an elbow and respecting the range you are in, elbows are very effective, accurate, and only put you in a weak position when used improperly, like any technique of any martial art you "misuse".
Maybe we need to start putting these into Chinese for him to understand us."Loy Lau Hui Sung"
Ed
They wear gloves, but not elbow pads. And if they have trouble defending them while covering their heads with 16 oz boxing gloves, then someone without gloves will be much more open and susceptible to getting hit with elbows.because they have to wear gloves
He does because he went to thailand and trained and fought with them. Somehow i dont think ed has. Hence the lack of appreciation for the art.About MT, Gary Lam has much respect for MT.
Incredibly sad that in your wc training(?) history you didn't learn the most basic of our core principles because, if you did, you'd know why we don't like to use elbows...also, I never said anything negative about MT and I never would...
Ed
So tell us, how does that elbow violate this rule?
Simply stated, if you have such a low success rate at elbows, YOU should stop throwing them until you've learnt how to throw them properly. I use them quite nicely and within your precious rules, thanks!Simply stated, 99% of the time that elbows are used they violate one (or more) of our core principles.
its safe to say that I train some martial arts. Im not that good really, but most people really suck, so I feel ok about that - Sunfist
Sometime blog on training esp in Japan
And you're suggesting that people don't get grabbed much in fights? Try going against someone who isn't so caught up in your little rule book - you'll often get grabbed, and you'll often use elbows without such a problem.
And slow? WTH are you doing so badly that makes your elbows slow? Ditto inaccurate! It's closer to your target than a punch from the ideal punching range, so you're less likely to miss. You really do need to practise your elbows more!
its safe to say that I train some martial arts. Im not that good really, but most people really suck, so I feel ok about that - Sunfist
Sometime blog on training esp in Japan
FWIW its not what principles I think most elbow techniques violate, its what the founders of the system said. - as integral to our system as chi sao or sil lim tao or the jong.
"Loy lau hui sung"
As someone once told me "A lot has been lost in three generations." I guess that its true.
Ed
LOL, I find this unusual coming from you as I often agree with you... 'don't get into trouble'? That's right, we can all just knock em out straight off.
Personally, I think this BJ as an emergency form is largely daft. I mean, sure it's for things that go wrong, it's just that since we want to finish a fight in three seconds, things have already gone wrong pretty by then.
You supposed to unleash the devastating chun on them for three seconds then stand there assessing how wrong things are?
YOU: "Let's see, is it time for Biu Jee yet? That'd show..."
THEM: Gadanga gadanga gadanga...
end of assessment.
its safe to say that I train some martial arts. Im not that good really, but most people really suck, so I feel ok about that - Sunfist
Sometime blog on training esp in Japan
Yeah, we read it the first time. So enlighten us: how does this tech violate the principles of loy lau hui sung or any other of your kuen kuit?
You have a circular argument here: if you throw the elbows from a stupid position they're wrong for the system. No ****, Einstein. Like I said, you need to practise your elbows more so you're not violating these rules!
its safe to say that I train some martial arts. Im not that good really, but most people really suck, so I feel ok about that - Sunfist
Sometime blog on training esp in Japan