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Thread: Significance of Baisi Ceremony in Hung Ga

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    simple: practice hard, represent your Sifu and his teachings with honor, and continue the system.
    "My Gung-Fu may not be Your Gung-Fu.
    Gwok-Si, Gwok-Faht"

    "I will not be part of the generation
    that killed Kung-Fu."

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    Quote Originally Posted by TenTigers View Post
    simple: practice hard, represent your Sifu and his teachings with honor, and continue the system.
    exactly!

    TRAIN YOU AZZ OFF! then pass it on

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    What does a baisi disciple do in return for receiving something that is priceless?

    by Bamboozled

    TenTigers has almost said all my answer to the question.

    A baisi disciple would train hard at his best. Represent his sifu, the school of art with honor and respect. The disciple may or may not continue the system by teaching, promoting, etc.


    P.S. I do not believe in the Baisi practice if the teaching given to a Baisi disciple is different from a non-Baisi student. Think about a similar relation like marriage. Does being legally married always make the couple's marriage life better than otherwise?



    Regards,

    KC
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    Last edited by SteveLau; 08-02-2009 at 01:28 AM.

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    TTT...simply because I find this topic soooo interesting

    With respect to David Jamieson's comments a few post ago...does anyone care to chime in...

    How much emphasis would you put on "Ability through diligence"? If a student is diligent, works hard, tries hard, etc and also exhibits items 2 to 4 on your list BUT is a touch lacking on the "ability" part due to physical makeup or age or natural strength or whatever, would you still consider him baisi material? How much does martial ability count (toe-to-toe with George St-Pierre)? On the flip side: What if some student exhibits all of items 1 to 4 in school but is somewhat of a cad outside of school - is he still baisi material?

    Thanks.

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    yes to the first ine, no to the second. You choose disciples by who you want representing you. Most Sifus look for signs of good character, strong work ethic, and sense of responsibility and loyalty.
    "My Gung-Fu may not be Your Gung-Fu.
    Gwok-Si, Gwok-Faht"

    "I will not be part of the generation
    that killed Kung-Fu."

    ....step.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TenTigers View Post
    yes to the first ine, no to the second. You choose disciples by who you want representing you. Most Sifus look for signs of good character, strong work ethic, and sense of responsibility and loyalty.
    but is it not well documented (in many TCMA's, not specifically Hung Ga) that the second example would also be in line for Bai Si too. people who are fantastic martial artists, but troublesome with it? after all many sifus wish to have their art be recognised as a fighting system for their own power, or fame, or reasons known only to themselves

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