Originally Posted by
kungfublow
That's all great info thanks. It's nice to have some other sources to consult over and above my sifu.
I also like what you said about using the dummy with both soft force and full force. I would think that would make you more well rounded. I try to do that while I practice but sadly I don't have a dummy at home yet. So my time is limited.
Well practice the Dummy Form in the air. Then go ahead and freestyle in the air and then find a partner to work out drills.
Originally Posted by
Ultimatewingchun
Thoughts?
And here's some thoughts of my own to throw out there about this: Although there are things within each section that can transfer to unarmed fighting, there is, imo, a very big number of moves in the WD that are really hidden Butterfly Sword techniques, and have little relevance to unarmed combat.
Wow I never thought about the butterfly techniques. Please share some of that with me.
Originally Posted by
Ultimatewingchun
I won't get into actually using moves (or sets of moves) from the WD in actual application in this post, other than to say that, yes, there are moves form each section that are fight applicable, imo...and are taught with that in mind by William Cheung.
But for now I want to focus on the rest of sanjuro's post: yeah, after doing the set routine (or sometimes even right in the middle of it)...freestyling on it is not only good - but it's an absolute must, imo.
Because you have to "make it yours", like everything else in WC, or any martial art for that matter. And the more you freestyle (and especially after you've come to understand the meaning of the set routine)...the better you get. Because you start doing things naturally and unconsciously - as this has to be the ultimate goal. One needs to get familiar with the "training/teaching" so intimately that you can perform under fire without thinking much about what you'll do next. It just comes. Including what may not be in the training/teaching/form.
And yeah, I padded my WD some years ago and go full blast power without fear of injuring my hands/elbows, and it has dramatically increased the time I became willing to spend on the WD, since the arms and leg serve to make full blast punching, kicking, knees, elbows, palm strikes, etc. more disciplined - as just going all out full abandon, while it might be good against a heavy bag, for example (which I also use at my school very frequently)...
can be a reckless act in actual sparring/fighting...so having to work your way around the WD arms/legs while still striking very hard adds a lot to the game.
Share some applications of how to use the WC in actual combat?
Originally Posted by
Lee Chiang Po
I learned the WD form a long time ago, but even back then my older brother, one of them, taught me to fight the wooden man free style. I started out by doing SLT on the dummy. Then much later I started learning the dummy form. We would jump on it and bang the tar out of it. I would use an enter technique and start fighting, using different techniques as I went along. I think it makes for a more fluid transition from one move to the next doing that, plus it seems to have opened my options to meet different situations more. Does that even make sense?
I never use anything more than the verticle fist, palm, chop, and the bill gee finger stabs for hand techniques. Of course there is the elbow, knee and foot, but you can't make a fist with them. I never did much as far as altering the fist. Like the knuckle jabs and such. Phenix eye? I think the dummy offers you the oppertunity to go all out with some of your techniques without worrying about hurting someone in the process, but I also feel that 2 man drills are the only real way to get it down to a science. Once your drills have given you the proper angles and technique, you can then go all out on the dummy. Something that you can not really do with your training partner. I also pad the dummy. No sense in making clubs out of your hands. Today, if I do the dummy, I will do it free style.
Well Personally I believe the Phoenix fist and Ginger fist should be conditioned by hitting a wall bag: First with rice, Second with Beans, Third with Sand, Fourth with Gravel, and Fifth with Steel Shots and use plently of Dit Da Jow and do Chi Kung before and after your training.
But the dummy also assist in muscle memory and training to use of power.
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