Is Shaolin-Do for real?

[Syn7]

Hope everyone had a great Thanksgiving!

Rightbackatcha!

We had our thanxgiving awhile ago. Not really something we put much time or thought into (not Canada, just me and my fam), but I did take part in a thing called the UNthanksgiving in Frisco a few years ago when I was staying down there. It was a native thing, pretty fun. This one guy kept going on about the parallels between Israel and the Native American claims. He made some great points. If Israel has a legit claim after such a long period of time (something I don't agree with) then surely Native Americans have a claim that is much stronger. Land claims are fukced up. If we started giving land back to everyone that got their ass kicked outta their so called home land, everyone would be in dispute. As a lawyer, I'm sure you can appreciate that mess. Anyways... Have a good one JP.

[kwaichang]

WEll just dont want t o debate the idea of God because it cant be defined? You like to debate everything else. God is the originating force that originated the Universe. Some believe in the Big Bang "Theory" if it is so then as Physics states nothing will go into motion with out a Catalyst. God is that catalyst. KC

[Syn7]

WEll just dont want t o debate the idea of God because it cant be defined? You like to debate everything else. God is the originating force that originated the Universe. Some believe in the Big Bang "Theory" if it is so then as Physics states nothing will go into motion with out a Catalyst. God is that catalyst. KC

That is one way of looking at it. A major cop out, but valid in a "I couldn't be bothered to think this thru" kind of way. Whatever helps you sleep at night man. You need to catch up on your physics, son. How do you know it isn't just a cycle? We are nothing. We are not important. The concept of God is an ego thing.


And no, I am not willing to debate the existence of something that cannot be defined. Even a loose definition would be a start, but nobody can even get that far, so why bother? That would be like debating the merit of warp engines on the enterprise. Just the idea of it isn't enough. It's a start, I guess. Maybe in a few thousand years people will be able to have this convo.

[hskwarrior]

How do you know it isn't just a cycle?

life is a cycle. this is why there are younger generations of people who look just like someone you grew up with. or certain patterns that always get recycled. look at the current generation, they remind me of the 80's.

[kwaichang]

How can God be for Ego when believeing in a superior being will make humans less egotistical. All things in Motion such a s a Cycle had to have a beginning , and since cycle denotes movement then for there to be movement something had to be still at some moment in Time or space since they are the same. Therefore some force or energy ie GOD had to start the whole cycle in the 1st place. KC

[Judge Pen]

So we're discussing theology now? Wow. What's next? How many angels can sit on the head of a pin? Your beliefs are you own. No one can prove or disprove anything that is based on faith. That's the point of faith. So the best I can do is respect your beliefs and hope that you can respect mine.

KC's thesis is a popular one as it allows for all scientific thought without discounting the existence of a higher being. There's nothing wrong with that as it is an expansive view on the nature of God/god/gods/whatever-you-relate-to. The issue many traditional religions have with that logic is that it discounts the literalness of their texts.

I don't think it is a "cop-out". How can any belief be discounted if it is based on faith? That's the problem and the beauty. You can truly believe that if you die killing infidels that you will have a harem of virgins waiting for you in the afterlife. I can truly believe that tenant is ridiculous. None of that matters.

So how many angels can sit on the head of a pin?

[Syn7]

How can God be for Ego when believeing in a superior being will make humans less egotistical. All things in Motion such a s a Cycle had to have a beginning , and since cycle denotes movement then for there to be movement something had to be still at some moment in Time or space since they are the same. Therefore some force or energy ie GOD had to start the whole cycle in the 1st place. KC

You make way too many assumptions.

[Syn7]

So we're discussing theology now? Wow. What's next? How many angels can sit on the head of a pin? Your beliefs are you own. No one can prove or disprove anything that is based on faith. That's the point of faith. So the best I can do is respect your beliefs and hope that you can respect mine.

KC's thesis is a popular one as it allows for all scientific thought without discounting the existence of a higher being. There's nothing wrong with that as it is an expansive view on the nature of God/god/gods/whatever-you-relate-to. The issue many traditional religions have with that logic is that it discounts the literalness of their texts.

I don't think it is a "cop-out". How can any belief be discounted if it is based on faith? That's the problem and the beauty. You can truly believe that if you die killing infidels that you will have a harem of virgins waiting for you in the afterlife. I can truly believe that tenant is ridiculous. None of that matters.

So how many angels can sit on the head of a pin?

Like I said, whatever gets you to sleep at night....


I'm not gonna have this debate.

[Shaolin Wookie]

P90X; teh muskle confusioning,

keeps me built like a 170 lb twink

I had no idea what this meant ("twink"), so I looked it up.

As per wikipedia:

"Twink" is a gay slang term describing a young or young-looking gay man with a slender, ectomorph build, little or no body hair, and no facial hair


Something tells me that you don't need P90X for that. Maybe Zumba or a Richard Simmons video, but not P90X.

[Shaolin Wookie]

So how many angels can sit on the head of a pin?

Zero.

Next question?

[Shaolin Wookie]

How can God be for Ego when believeing in a superior being will make humans less egotistical.

This cannot be universalized. There are way too many egotistical religionists in the world to make this claim. Look at the Pope, various Imams, the televangelists, the personalities behind megachurches, and the self-serving missionaries. Even the Dalai Lama is an egoist--he wants the restoration of his impoverished kingdom, where he rules as a divinely-appointed god-king (who is a believer in the morality of socialism [i.e., compulsory charity, backed by state force]).

Now, there are plenty of humble religionists, too.

Hence, some are incredibily humble, and some are overbearingly egotistical.

[kwaichang]

I am not talking Religon I am talking spirituality and God, Man invented Religion and ALL the things that are corrupt to man kind, associated with it. KC

[tattooedmonk]

I had no idea what this meant ("twink"), so I looked it up.

As per wikipedia:

"Twink" is a gay slang term describing a young or young-looking gay man with a slender, ectomorph build, little or no body hair, and no facial hair


Something tells me that you don't need P90X for that. Maybe Zumba or a Richard Simmons video, but not P90X.

That's gross! Who would want to be like that? Oh wait , never mind! Haha

[hskwarrior]

That's gross! Who would want to be like that? Oh wait , never mind! Haha

stfu girly man

[JSE]

I agre with this. A friend of mine who teaches split from the system when the deposition was released. He stopped teaching things that Sin The said he fabricated. He is being up front with his students about what he knows and how he knows it. I haven't spoken to him for a while to see how these changes have affected his class, but he was doing well enough last time we spoke.

Hope everyone had a great Thanksgiving!

He has been very up front. He made an announcement in class stating he had broken away from the system. He said he could no longer be affiliated with this system and the lack of honesty and integrity any more. This is something he had wanted to do for quite some time because of all of the limitations that were put on him.

Class is much better now. He has taken the focus off of "form collecting" and has placed the majority of the emphasis on application and theory.

HSK, One of the examples he gave was the fact that the 5 animal form came from Doc-Fai Wong's book and or video. So there is at least 1 former Sin The school that completely acknowledges your systems form. I have talked to him about the discussion here and he has read your posts. I would like to discuss this with you further privately if you are open to that.