Fanche

[mooyingmantis]

Zhang Dekui did not teach Xiao Fanche. Su Yuzhang's Xiao Fanche is from Eight Step. He learned from Wei Xiaotang. The Wutan schools in Taiwan all teach it at their university clubs. Every night when they have class you can see them training and teaching to the freshman, either Lipi or Xiao Fanche.

OK, in the Babu Tanglangquan of Su Yu Zhang the movement in Xiao Fanche is interpreted as a wrist grab and descending elbow break.

[mooyingmantis]

In the Qixing Tanglangquan version of Dafanche we have the move:

撇 捶 右 單 鞭 - piē chuí yòu dān biān - Casting Strike, Right Single Whip

Tonight I touched on one strategy of this move in class. Though I may be "preaching to the choir", I thought someone might benefit from my explanation.

The casting strike is a long arm, outward swinging back-fist type motion. It is followed by a long range, inward swinging hook strike.

I explained to my students that the initial strike, if done as in the form, is a very easy to anticipate attack. I believe that this intentionally inspires (叫 - jiào - provoke) the opponent to extend his left arm to block and create an opening. The left casting strike converts to a grab (粘 - zhān - paste). The right leg steps in contacting and pressing against the opponent's left leg (貼 - tiē - lean), while the right hook punch strikes the opponent in the head. Alternately, the right forearm can contact the opponent's neck to uproot.

In this situation, the casting strike is a misdirection (虛 - xū - false), while the single whip is the intended strike (實 - shí - real).

Note: I often use the quanpu of Master Wong Hon Fan because it is very clear and concise. Yet, that does not mean his descendants will all necessarily agree with the interpretation.

[Michael Dasargo]

OK, in the Babu Tanglangquan of Su Yu Zhang the movement in Xiao Fanche is interpreted as a wrist grab and descending elbow break.

Not sure if you're referring to the jump and chop, but per Zhang Jia Chang, the application is jumping over sweeps and chopping down on the neck.

M.

[mooyingmantis]

Mike,

That was exactly what I was referring to. Thank you for the informed response!

Who is Zhang Jia Chang? To which family of mantis does he belong?

[Michael Dasargo]

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Zhang "John" Chang Babu TangLang

Mike D.

[mooyingmantis]

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Zhang "John" Chang Babu TangLang

Mike D.

Thanks Mike!

In the WHF quanpu for Xiaofanche the three hops with strikes (movements 16-18) are referred to as:

Leaping Jump, Piercing Splitting Strike
zong tiao chuan pi chui
Leaping Jump, Hang Splitting Strike
zong tiao gua pi chui
Leaping Jump, Slant Drawing Strike
zong tiao xie chou chui

They can be seen here at 00:10 - 00:13:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Us1th...87EE1CED65CAAB