New Videos from the Bagua Historical Swordsmanship Project: Chopping Sabre vs. Butter

[Violent Designs]

The jian is a double-edged straight sword used during the last 2,500 years in China. The first Chinese sources that mention the jian date to the 7th century BCE during the Spring and Autumn Period;[1] one of the earliest specimens being the Sword of Goujian. Historical one-handed versions have blades varying from 45 to 80 centimeters (17.7 to 31.5 inches) in length. The weight of an average sword of 70-centimeter (28-inch) blade-length would be in a range of approximately 700 to 900 grams (1.5 to 2 pounds).[2] There are also larger two-handed versions used for training by many styles of Chinese martial arts.



A jian is a TYPE OF SWORD. A gim is a TYPE OF SWORD. You are basically telling me that Ford equals carm, and that isn't true.

And FYI... there are a good 36 different meanings for the word "dao".

Someone here who actually speaks Chinese please, PLEASE back me up here.

Dude I love you and all, but seriously...

[IronWeasel]

some scimitars are of uniform width too. .

Damn my worthless brain!!


At least these are all 'S-words' -- in my best Sean Connery voice

[Lucas]

not at all! i think the tricky part is its all cross cultural. so in essence its what ever works i think.

if i was SUPER lazy i would just call them ALL swords

[Drake]

Horse-chopper Broadsword (Chahn Ma Do) 鏟馬刀

Two-Edged Single Straight Sword (Dahn Gim) 单劍

Double Daggers (Seung Pei Sau) 双匕首

Single Broadsword (Dahn Do) 单刀

Single Commander’s Saber (Dahn Ji Fai Do) 单指揮刀

Double Broadsword (Seung Yiu Do) 双腰刀

Southern Double One Edged Swords (Nam Seung Do) 南双刀

As I have been saying... swords do not always use the same word. Note the use of the word "gim" and what it is used for. Thank you, drive through.

[David Jamieson]

The jian is a double-edged straight sword used during the last 2,500 years in China. The first Chinese sources that mention the jian date to the 7th century BCE during the Spring and Autumn Period;[1] one of the earliest specimens being the Sword of Goujian. Historical one-handed versions have blades varying from 45 to 80 centimeters (17.7 to 31.5 inches) in length. The weight of an average sword of 70-centimeter (28-inch) blade-length would be in a range of approximately 700 to 900 grams (1.5 to 2 pounds).[2] There are also larger two-handed versions used for training by many styles of Chinese martial arts.



A jian is a TYPE OF SWORD. A gim is a TYPE OF SWORD. You are basically telling me that Ford equals carm, and that isn't true.

And FYI... there are a good 36 different meanings for the word "dao".

Someone here who actually speaks Chinese please, PLEASE back me up here.

how about this.
jian = mandarin
gim=toisanese/cantonese

they are noth the same character. Jian = sword period (same with gim)

and there are plenty of people who speak chinese here. I'm guessing they don't want to get involved in this stupid argument you started about how americans make the mistake of calling butterfly knives, knives because you have been told that they are actually swords.

anyway, like I said, hang onto your thing i that's what keeps you hanging on, but on this point about butterfly knives, you are wrong.

butcher knife, butter knife, bowie knife... all knives right?

no western bump. It really and literally is knives. wu dip dao are knives.

[Drake]

how about this.
jian = mandarin
gim=toisanese/cantonese

they are noth the same character. Jian = sword period (same with gim)

and there are plenty of people who speak chinese here. I'm guessing they don't want to get involved in this stupid argument you started about how americans make the mistake of calling butterfly knives, knives because you have been told that they are actually swords.

anyway, like I said, hang onto your thing i that's what keeps you hanging on, but on this point about butterfly knives, you are wrong.

butcher knife, butter knife, bowie knife... all knives right?

no western bump. It really and literally is knives. wu dip dao are knives.

Do you even know what dao means?

The guy who told me happens to be a native speaker of Mandarin AND Cantonese, though I couldn't tell you what particular dialect.

Short of reading something an interpreting it literally... what is YOUR basis for your assumption?

[Drake]

*giggle*

http://www.fleasyads.com/viewitem.ph...m=170606920896

[David Jamieson]

Do you even know what dao means?

The guy who told me happens to be a native speaker of Mandarin AND Cantonese, though I couldn't tell you what particular dialect.

Short of reading something an interpreting it literally... what is YOUR basis for your assumption?

Having been formally trained in the use of them with my Kung Fu teacher?

It's not an assumption, the word dao in context is Knife.

Why do you insist on dragging this out? Your stupid is getting painful here Drake.

Please stop. lol

[Drake]

*giggle again*

http://www.shenmartialarts.com/displ...d=15&origcat=3

[David Jamieson]

*giggle*

http://www.fleasyads.com/viewitem.ph...m=170606920896

why not just go up to the top of the page?

you had to dig for that and you know it. lol

But if you would like me to drown you in links that call them knives, I suppose I could, but this is just dumb, you're argument is incorrect, your premise is wrong and you have only a hair of truth that you are trying to make into a wig.

Just tap already lol

Here's a pic of my half decent set.


I bought em from here. they're good.

[Drake]

Why would I be the one tapping when I have you in the RNC?

[Drake]

Where's Bawang when I need him?

[Violent Designs]

i speak mandarin but don't take my word for it if you don't want to.

i'm just throwing out my 2 cents.

whatever it's worth.

[David Jamieson]

Where's Bawang when I need him?

holy crap, you know what? You can call em what you want lol
I'll be using my butterfly knives and you use your butterfly swords.

ok? lol

[Drake]

holy crap, you know what? You can call em what you want lol
I'll be using my butterfly knives and you use your butterfly swords.

ok? lol

I shall call them floating plum blossom petals that hover above heaven.

Glad that's over...

Back to stupid backyard sword training videos then?