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I don't understand why people don't just train solo drills (when they don't have training partner)? A simple drill such as
- hammer fist,
- groin kick,
- face punch,
If you repeat this combo 20 times, it's just like a form with 60 moves.
To only repeat any technique 1 time in form training can hardly develop any "muscle memory".
Last edited by YouKnowWho; 08-02-2012 at 12:30 PM.
I'm your Huckleberry
Because it doesn't look cool. Duh.Originally Posted by YouKnowWho
It is better to have less thunder in the mouth and more lightning in the hand. - Apache Proverb
周洪龍 金山鴻勝武舘 - 鴻勝佛家正宗
no, i feel you. but i still like to see a good form. in a way its like a gymnastics routine. if you know what to look for you can judge them on their execution of the form.To me something like this is a better way to demo a style. Like I said, earlier, maybe the guy does a small bit of a form and then stops and does that portion with pads so people get a better idea of it as a martial art.
you can have one guy who never fought in his life...street or ring.....
and then you have someone who has one or the other or even both experience....
which one do you think would comprehend the purpose of a form better?
Hung Sing Boyz, we gottit on lock down
when he's around quick to ground and pound a clown
Bruh we thought you knew better
when it comes to head huntin, ain't no one can do it better
周洪龍 金山鴻勝武舘 - 鴻勝佛家正宗
all my beginners in my club had to know how to strike and use the basic strikes effectively prior to learning the form. first, they train single strikes till they get improved then move on the combo's.I don't understand why people don't just train solo drills (when they don't have training partner)? A simple drill such as
- hammer fist,
- groin kick,
- face punch,
If you repeat this combo 20 times, it's just like a form with 60 moves.
To repeat 1 rep in form can hardly develop any "muscle memory".
its all about how and what we train.
Hung Sing Boyz, we gottit on lock down
when he's around quick to ground and pound a clown
Bruh we thought you knew better
when it comes to head huntin, ain't no one can do it better
GM of Hadaka Korosu
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WCliek3Oqy4when i click that vid it says an error occured during validation every time
Psalms 144:1
Praise be my Lord my Rock,
He trains my hands for war, my fingers for battle !
Bad the Fukc Ass
oh thx man
For whoso comes amongst many shall one day find that no one man is by so far the mightiest of all.
Glorified TCMAist
I think people just shouldn't do sucky forms.
"My Gung-Fu may not be Your Gung-Fu.
Gwok-Si, Gwok-Faht"
"I will not be part of the generation
that killed Kung-Fu."
....step.
GM of Hadaka Korosu
I am beginning to have issues with this "common sense", "logic" and "understanding" view points you have.
There is no place for that kind of crap in kung fu !!!
Psalms 144:1
Praise be my Lord my Rock,
He trains my hands for war, my fingers for battle !
周洪龍 金山鴻勝武舘 - 鴻勝佛家正宗
no free thinking! the way is kungarate~!There is no place for that kind of crap in kung fu !!!
Hung Sing Boyz, we gottit on lock down
when he's around quick to ground and pound a clown
Bruh we thought you knew better
when it comes to head huntin, ain't no one can do it better
Registered User
Do you know many chinese traditional styles that neglect jibengong in favor of forms training? You have to train both. Firstly be good at the jibengongs, danxiang lianxi etc.. Sure. But then it is not the same to do 60 hammer fists in a row (especially when you already do it correctly) as when you do one hammerfist within a form, weaved between two other, challenging in terms of body work, movements and cannot repeat it if it goes not so well. Different thing. Forms are not the essence of cma, but should be trained imo. As hskwarrior said, you can tell a lot by just watching a form done.
Registered User
Disagree!
Form is for "teaching" and "learning" only. It's not for "training".
Last edited by YouKnowWho; 08-02-2012 at 01:52 PM.
Itinerant practitioner
Forms when demoed either display physical ability or the distinct lack of it. They are a viable method to demonstrate what you offer as a school.
Weapons especially! Who doesn't love a sword form, full blast? Who?
I sure do. I also appreciate when forms are done solid and well by a practitioner.
I appreciate a good boxer shadowboxing. It's music in motion after all.
Besides, kung fu demo are often a lot more than forms demos. Usually there is a good lion dance, some fan dance as well and then some forms, a two man set, some weapons, two man weapons and so on.
Most Tradition Chinese Martial Art or Kung Fu uses forms to teach and learn. That's life, get over it.
Kung Fu is good for you.
Registered User
Some forms are not designed for training. I had created a form that the 1st 13 moves are 13 standing training postures. The purpose is trying to help my students to remember those 13 different standing postures. The order among those 13 ZZ postures is not important. One should not train this form "from the 1st move to the last move". He should try to hold any individual posture as long as he can. The order is not important.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6i7kQo0Dq48
周洪龍 金山鴻勝武舘 - 鴻勝佛家正宗
blasting through your forms full blast and cleanly is GREAT cardio.Form is for "teaching" and "learning" only. It's not for "training".
music in motion or a train wreck?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qjaCAbhOOHE
Hung Sing Boyz, we gottit on lock down
when he's around quick to ground and pound a clown
Bruh we thought you knew better
when it comes to head huntin, ain't no one can do it better
(. Y .)
I'm not saying forms or forms training is bad - like my sig says, I like forms.
What I'm saying is that solo empty hand routines are a bad way to demonstrate kung fu to the general public. IMO I say we need to think about how we demo TCMA to the world.
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