Boxing vs. TCMA

[MightyB]

nope the sparring showedthem the mistakes build from patticake stuff, hands dropping as they tried to remember the order of hits, static footwork due to too many shots in a combination, unrealistic sense of space and distance as the feeder would crowd and come and meet the punches (as always happens in patticake drills) luckily sparring was introduced back after a few months of this stuff and showed how worse not better they had got,

Well that sucks and it was a bad experience for you guys. Not everyone has the same approach with the "paticake" drills. Maybe it's a WC thing.

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this is my boxer friend who I play paticake with


Of course no one relies on just one option


the paticake drills work in our neck of the woods. But we realize we're weekend warrior amateurs and no one has any delusions about being in the UFC. That's the problem with most TCMA people. Unrealistic expectations and comparisons.

If it works for you and you like it, do it. If you see value in something and can get it to work, do it. If not - don't. I like trapping and set ups.

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PS, I don't f*ck with that guy too much - he's faster than h*ll and waaaayyyyy tougher than me. But I do enjoy working out and sparring with him when I get the chance. I just have to remind him that I'm an old poosey and he has to take it easy on me.

[lkfmdc]

I had an MMA coach who spent months teaching patticake pad work. Drills then end result was everyone got the rhythm of the drill and in sparring got hit because they looked for a rhythm that wasn't there and the patticake drills had developed very bad habitts

Mayweather Sr put his pittipatt craptacular pad work on a video for Ringside and these days every so called coach tries to immitate it,,,, it is crap in boxing and even worse for other combat sports...

but ignorant people are easily impressed (and manipulated)

[lkfmdc]

the problem is you can't pull traps off like that unless the guy you are fighting is a wing chun/ jkd guy so if it doesn't work the same way you drill it are the drills worthwhile? Tapping to me means clearing a path so I can control his centre of gravity and hit him not play paticake like that

any trapping and/or bridging is dependent upon the other guy fighting in that structure... since most people do not fight that way it has lost relevance for the most part

[MightyB]

Just to be clear...
the guy in my photos doesn't do trapping as he has no experience in it, but he's the guy who says not every punch is a knockout punch - meaning sometimes a strike is a set up for a better strike.

His drills aren't weak or slappy (he is the striking coach at the club where I used to hang out before I moved) and he's trained many successful amateur MMA fighters.

but I'll reiterate, not every punch is a knockout punch.

[lkfmdc]

3 seconds to find a perfect example of the nonsense I was talking about

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tv9Vgpfx2Ks

[MightyB]

3 seconds to find a perfect example of the nonsense I was talking about

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tv9Vgpfx2Ks

That's the first I've ever seen anything like that - So if that's paticake, then I haven't seen or done paticake.

The padwork I'm familiar with is "simpler". 2, 3 maybe up to 4 punch combinations with the guy calling out which combo using numbers. Plus it's done with a lot more power.

[bawang]

theres no reason for obseesive love of bridging and trapping, other than showing how loyal and attached you are to your sifu. martial art is not a religion. my loyalty is not to my sifu, my loyaly is to Chinese martial arts.

[lkfmdc]

LIke I said, tons of people trying to copy Maywether Sr....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sLOurs1aDhI

that's the original, ok for amateur boxing, highly questionable for pro, worthless for Muay Thai, MMA, etc

now everyone and their dog want to do this crap
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GPT1wsZACdY

[lkfmdc]

theres no reason for obseesive love of bridging and trapping, other than showing how loyal and attached you are to your sifu. martial art is not a religion. my loyalty is not to my sifu, my loyaly is to Chinese martial arts.

silly boy, martial arts IS religion..... that is precisely the problem

[lkfmdc]

ha hah hah

this was linked the maywether video, no idea why, well, except it applie to this thread

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0HVAUN1pMTs

[MightyB]

theres no reason for obseesive love of bridging and trapping, other than showing how loyal and attached you are to your sifu. martial art is not a religion. my loyalty is not to my sifu, my loyaly is to Chinese martial arts.

The first time you spontaneously diu sau in sparring, you're hooked.

[lkfmdc]

diu nei diu sau

[MightyB]

diu nei diu sau

LOL - censor didn't catch that one

[bawang]

The first time you spontaneously diu sau in sparring, you're hooked.

I dont know what that is. I dont speak viet.

[lkfmdc]

LOL - censor didn't catch that one

I think Gene only speaks Mandarin