What's your solution if you are a striker?

[Fa Xing]

allow only roshambo contests and practice your iron crotch daily.

This is the best imo lol

[HumbleWCGuy]

You have to have some sense about these things. You don't want to be mixing it up with mentally ill people. Here is an example of that. The best thing to do with people who show up like that is to just tell them to leave. It's just irresponsible if you are running a serious gym to let someone walk in and start sparring without any signs that they can defend themselves and can exercise some sort of control. A waiver helps, but you have legitimate responsibilities as a trainer that a waiver won't cover.

In my opinion, if you school is reacting to that kind of stuff, it is probably not being run very well.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wsPmHZjK_ZA

[HumbleWCGuy]

Have injury wavers written up by a attourney (These will state that the person signing is the aggressor and is wanting to challenge you, keep these with you at all times). Tell the challenger to sign a death warrent (injury wavors) in case he is killed before you two can have your match.

This way he will back down and say "No way, I ain't signing no Death Warrant", and you don't lose any face as well.

ginosifu

I suppose that it depends on the state, but I say with some confidence that a waiver isn't going to be worth the paper it is written on unless you are acting as a responsible instructor.

[Scott R. Brown]

Tough guys can easy turn into cry babies once they smell a profit (read: lawsuit) in it!

[ginosifu]

I suppose that it depends on the state, but I say with some confidence that a waiver isn't going to be worth the paper it is written on unless you are acting as a responsible instructor.

First off... it is supposed to scare the guy off without a scuffle if possible. Then....

If they insist and I have made every attempt to difuse the situation, then here in my state the Law and my Insurance carrier will be on my side.

ginosifu

[HumbleWCGuy]

First off... it is supposed to scare the guy off without a scuffle if possible. Then....

If they insist and I have made every attempt to difuse the situation, then here in my state the Law and my Insurance carrier will be on my side.

ginosifu

In some respects. As long as you are performing your due diligence.

[Dragonzbane76]

I have to say that a waiver does hold some merit but will only get so far. in the end if someone throws enough money into it or a lawyer thinks they can sue, and win, then it will happen. they will drag you through the mud with defamation of character and your school will be ruined anyways. Best is to blow these types off. Head hunters is what I call them. Do not give them the opportunity.

[ginosifu]

I have to say that a waiver does hold some merit but will only get so far. in the end if someone throws enough money into it or a lawyer thinks they can sue, and win, then it will happen. they will drag you through the mud with defamation of character and your school will be ruined anyways. Best is to blow these types off. Head hunters is what I call them. Do not give them the opportunity.

Agreed, a good lawyer can work around a waver. I have good attourneys that rep my school though. (Geeeeesh they are expensive)

ginosifu

[jo]

You teach class in the park in front of your students. Someone challenges you. You accept the challenge. If you are a

- "grappler", you take your opponent down and force him to tap out. You both get back up, shake hands and leave. Nobody gets hurt.
- "striker", you punch on your opponent's face and knock him down. Either he comes back with a gun and shot you, or his lawyer will call you next day.

If you are a "striker", what will be your best solution to hander a "public challenger"?

Why do you assume that the challenger is going to "fight by the rules of grappling"..i.e. no elbows/blows to the back of the head/neck, no shots to the temple when you shoot, no eye gouging or throat grabs? Why do grapplers think that everyone they try to take down will abide by "the rules"?

What if, after you let him up, he just sucker punches you? ...Oh thats right..."the Rules" again. He would NEVER do THAT!

-jo

[Dragonzbane76]

Why do you assume that the challenger is going to "fight by the rules of grappling"..i.e. no elbows/blows to the back of the head/neck, no shots to the temple when you shoot, no eye gouging or throat grabs? Why do grapplers think that everyone they try to take down will abide by "the rules"?

where was the term "rules" applied? and who said a grappler will abide by the rules when he is down? OH NOZZZ the deadly eye gouge and throat grabzzz...we all know thats the end for anyone if those are pulled out.

What if, after you let him up, he just sucker punches you? ...Oh thats right..."the Rules" again. He would NEVER do THAT!

what if I choke him out to blackness? yeah he's going to be getting up real quick like to smack me around. What if I break his arm while i'm down there, is he going to sucker punch me with his good one? Good luck with that.

[Lucas]

well if he tries to pull a cheap shot then its even grounds...everyone knows cma guys 'cheat'...its part of the training. lol

[jo]

well if he tries to pull a cheap shot then its even grounds...everyone knows cma guys 'cheat'...its part of the training. lol

There is no such thing as "cheating" in a real fight.

- jo

[Drake]

There is no such thing as "cheating" in a real fight.

- jo

Ain't that the truth...

[YouKnowWho]

There is no such thing as "cheating" in a real fight.

- jo

If you think that TCMA guys are honest, you must be out of your mind. Oneday I asked my teacher, "How did you fight that person?" My teacher said, "I faked him."

You

- kick low so you can punch high.
- attack left so you can attack right.
- drop guard to invite punch.
- raise guard to invite kick.
- give so you can take.
- pull so you can push.
- push so you can pull.
- drop your body weight on your opponent and pretend that you lost your balance.
- drop your elbow on your opponent's throat and pretend it's an accident.
- pretend to wet your pants and suddently jump in and eat your opponent alive.
- ...

TCMA guys are the least honest people on this planet.

[Lee Chiang Po]

I teach sometimes in a public park setting. I love it. Right in the middle of Golden Gate Park. We get lots of attention too from people from all over the world.

I also studied Latosa Escrima....

So there we go. Attention. I have not taught a lot of people, but I have trained at least 5 people outside my immediate family. I charged a huge sum of money, and it was private. No one watching, no guests. A Park would not allow me to teach on a schedule of my own, but by the schedule set by nature. Cold, heat, rain, sleet, snow, whatever, would limit me. Not to mention the onlookers and skeptics that I did not need to deal with. And there would always be distractions. I would teach 5 to 6 days a week, 2 to 4 hours a day. I was paid to teach the system, not just have them train at something daily. Again, I charged a huge sum of money. When they showed up the first day, I would require 1500 bucks. If they missed a day or was regularly late, hell would be raised and possibly they would be sent packing. So, I got 3 months up front in advance. That would give them incentive to be prompt. I would require them to bring me 1500 bucks every 3 months. That kept them prompt. If they quite, my time would not have been wasted. A city park would have been dim mak for that.