Ill take that under advisement given your years of experience in throwing arts. . .what do you train in again?
I don't give a **** if Darth Vader can play banjo better than Capt Kirk. Imaginary comparisons based on oversimplified scenarios are meaningless.
I can't deadlift, squat and do weighted pull ups everyday (well, I could but I wouldn't last long) and I don't have the opportunity to spar or practice techniques with a partner everyday either.
Maximal strength isn't everything and not every workout is about building max strength in the most efficient way. And golf has exactly ****all to do with strength.
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What do you guys think about learning something like 石锁(shisuo)? Is it the kind of weight training that can be more useful for martial artists?
You could DL, squat and do weighted pullups every day just fine if you keep the volume down. Well, 4-5 days a week is better than every day. Two sets of 5 for each exercise, 5 minutes rest minimum between sets. Your workout would be over in 30 minutes and you'd be much stronger than you are now.
lol. What is a golfer using to move his muscles to hit the ball if not strength?Maximal strength isn't everything and not every workout is about building max strength in the most efficient way. And golf has exactly ****all to do with strength.
Golf, just like every other non-endurance activity in the world, is based on two things:
1) technique/neurological efficiency of the movement
2) strength
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As IronFist already pointed out, "sport-specific" training is a gimmick.
A good strength program can be done 3 times a week in under 45 minutes.
Why waste time trying to get strong at one particular movement when you can do something like a squat or deadlift that makes your entire body stronger just as easily?
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I agree.
Functional strength is what you want.
You want to have strength in any application?
Do resistance training.
Engage the whole posterior chain in compound lifting.
Engage the whole anterior chain in compound lifting.
Do road work (yes, cardio helps a lot).
Do core work. (more important than big chest and arms)
Do your sport/art/whatever.
Kung Fu is good for you.
Riddle me this batman.
I know JamesC knows all about this.
Assistance exercises. Many renowned powerlifting programs prescribe them. Identify a weakness, for instance the lower back (and by extension the hamstrings) in the squat, and target it with exercises that isolate that area to improve your overall performance. Weighted back extensions and reverse hypers. Or front squats to load the anterior chain more if your flexors and quads are the weak link. Exercises that are removed from the actual movements performed in competitions by varying degrees. By your guy's recycled logic those are all just gimmicks. I wonder how the estiminable Mr. Simmons would feel about that.
You don't need certifications in kinestesiology to know that doing one legged squats balanced on a bosu ball while juggling kettlebells on fire is retarded. But it is pure intellectual laziness to paint everything in broad stroke knee jerk powerlifting forum regurgitations when common sense will suffice.
"Durrrrr functional training is bad durrrrrr"
sounds like you are scared of big muscles.
big, sweaty, oily pulsating muscles.
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I'm not sure why everything you post has to make you sound like such a ****. I can't tell if it is on purpose or not.
No one is saying that assistance exercises are useless. That isn't the same thing as sport specific exercises touted by the personal trainwreckers down at the Y.
You can't see that getting generally stronger with basic compound lifts is more useful than doing some arbitrary movement pattern that you hope will increase throwing capability?
I'm more than happy to have a decent conversation about it because I don't want you to think that i'm some powerlifting elitist hellbent on converting everyone to doing squats and deadlifts as part of their strength training.
If you can't have a civil conversation without trying to get a rise out of anyone that disagrees with you then i'm done with you.
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Is this a serious question?
I said strength is useful for increasing the distance you can hit the ball. I assume you know there is more to golf than just "who can hit it the furthest?" I never said strong muscles give you the ability to judge wind, distance, angle, or line up your putts better. Golf is not a strength-based sport.
I highly doubt a 14 year old Korean girl can outdrive a male golfer in his twenties who plays an equal amount of golf. If you're going to make comparisons make sure all else is equal.Or 14 year old korean girls who can outdrive most men in their twenties?
She may be able to outdrive a man in his twenties who who has never played golf before. I assume you know the reason why (hint: I mentioned it in a previous post).
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My daughter has never done any bench press or squats in her life. She is not big and strong but she can do what I can't do.
She travels all over the world and teaches her art in many different countries. As far as I know, both bench press and squarts are not part of her teaching program.
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