@ Graham: I figured I didn't have to explain what was literal and what wasn't, or did you really, genuinely not understand what I was saying?
If I wasn't being clear.... When I say 'extension of huen sau' I am of course not meaning a literal extension (that is to say, huen sau made longer, LOL). I mean that huen sau as a technique or a motion has applications, but that it also (the way we do it in WT) has an affect within the forms - it is specifically helping you with tendon work, for example. Which is why the way you perform it, and how you use/position the elbow is so important. In BT, this is worked to a greater degree after the initial punch.
But share a little, Graham
Does your VT not include such tendon/ligament work?
Regarding extending force, vibrating force, etc, like I was saying... different words for essentially the same thing. Grumblegeezer summed it up nicely.
Does your VT have exactly the same force generation methods in BT as is found in your CK?
I'm not sure if, as Grumblegeezer suggests, maybe you are not really open minded - or if you simply train in a way that doesn't work with these things. Not that it matters, I guess. If you are closed minded - okay. If your VT doesn't have certain things - that's okay with me too.
@Grumblegeezer
Absolutely, there's nothing esoteric and mystical about anything I've been taught in the LT system. Body mechanics and body methods that result in an effect - if you train them long and hard (it's Kung Fu, after all
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Of course, it is easy to say 'extending force' - which some might think sounds mystical but is a concise two words - than to spend 30 minutes rushing through the ideas in BT that include the use of the torso, utilizing seven joints, tendon work, spiral motions, special emphasis on... etc etc etc.