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    As long as Dr. Yang is able to pass his whole knowledge down to (or divide it among) a few disciples who themselves will be teaching, he'll have easily reached his goal. That quote of his sounds identical to what Adam Hsu was saying back in the '80s.

    CMA is a tough sell nowadays, but hopefully there will always be somebody who is willing and able to learn it. It won't ever happen on a grand scale, though. If it survives, it will do so in pockets.. Ironically, that might possibly keep the quality higher than mass dissemination would have.
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    Retreat to Surrender

    Something must have gone wrong - I previously saw on his site he had new sponsorship and programs running til June 2023
    I think it's just unaffordable in California. Too bad for his dream

    The YMAA CA Retreat Center Property is up for sale immediately for occupancy starting September of 2021

    ​The Center property encompasses a secluded 243-acres in the mountains of Northern California. The Center lies on a mountain peak in the center of a valley at an altitude of 1050-feet and is surrounded by mountain peaks that range from 1,650 to 2,400-feet in altitude. From a Chinese Feng-Shui point of view, this is a rare and ideal place for a meditation or retirement. North of the property, there is a creek (Salmon Creek) that forms the Yin Pole of the landscape, and on the South, it faces the mountains forming the Yang Pole. South-East of the property, there is an old volcano, Bear Butte. Though this volcano is not active, its energy continues to emerge and influence the entire valley where the Center is located. This all creates a strong energy vortex around the property with ideal conditions to trap energy in the valley where the Center sits.


    During his 10 years of residence at the Retreat Center, Dr. Yang has produced a many popular DVDs such as Taijiquan for Beginners and written several books in this location including this popular book, Dao De Jing – Qigong Interpretation.

    The Center is completely independent for water and energy resources. Water is provided year round by a well and spring water (16,500 gallons storage). The Center runs on solar energy (12kW grid) with two back-up generators on site. There are also 2 large organic gardens, a green house, and a chicken coop capable of holding 50 chickens.

    Facilities at the center include: an indoor training gym, a 12 person sauna house with 2 showers, a meditation gazebo and a 100-yard shooting/archery range.

    The property is ideal for someone looking to run a retreat center with minimal setup. It would also make a beautiful private home.

    We invite you to visit the Center to see and experience its natural beauty and strong energy.

    For more information and to arrange a visit, please contact Dr. Yang.
    dryang@ymaa.com

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    Quote Originally Posted by wolfen View Post
    "Will these $%$#'s ever stop. Is there anything they won't tax?"
    Californians... remember this when you flee the state. Don't bring this sh*t with you. People have a strange tendency to bring leftist Marxist bs whilst fleeing leftist Marxist bs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MightyB View Post
    Californians... remember this when you flee the state. Don't bring this sh*t with you. People have a strange tendency to bring leftist Marxist bs whilst fleeing leftist Marxist bs.
    I'm one of the very few Californians I know who are actually CA-born. The vast majority of people in CA moved here from other states (or countries). So the image of the CA Marxist is mostly people from elsewhere who brought it here. It's a real thing, BUT most I know who were born here and been here for generations are not like that and do not agree with it.
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    Likewise Jimbo

    Quote Originally Posted by Jimbo View Post
    I'm one of the very few Californians I know who are actually CA-born.
    Cali born & bred. And lemme tell ya, after spending a few summers living with the Chicoms, Cali ain't commie, not yet at least. It's definitely expensive to live in the metropolitan areas like I do, but not nearly as bad elsewhere in the state. SoHum is a totally different place on so many levels.

    I'm sad that Dr. Yang couldn't sustain the Retreat Center. I was there when it first opened and it was magnificent, a windy dirt road off the highway, close to the Avenue of Giants, a gorgeous forest of old growth redwoods.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GeneChing View Post
    I'm sad that Dr. Yang couldn't sustain the Retreat Center. I was there when it first opened and it was magnificent, a windy dirt road off the highway, close to the Avenue of Giants, a gorgeous forest of old growth redwoods.
    I admire what he was / is doing for traditional martial arts. The retreat center is a neat concept.

    It might work as a retreat center for people looking for short-term, immersive, specialized training... kind've like a Kung Fu Spa vacation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jimbo View Post
    As long as Dr. Yang is able to pass his whole knowledge down to (or divide it among) a few disciples who themselves will be teaching, he'll have easily reached his goal. That quote of his sounds identical to what Adam Hsu was saying back in the '80s.

    CMA is a tough sell nowadays, but hopefully there will always be somebody who is willing and able to learn it. It won't ever happen on a grand scale, though. If it survives, it will do so in pockets.. Ironically, that might possibly keep the quality higher than mass dissemination would have.
    I saw an interview with David Ross where he said something to the effect that you have to "Trick" students into learning Kung Fu in order to pass it.

    At first, the comment kind of angered me. However, after some reflection, I think he is right.

    Its probably better to teach it as a modern Sanda/fighting sport FIRST, then slowly work your way backwards through time, gently guiding your students to the old traditional stuff.

    They will appreciate the forms and Qigongs when they are older.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Royal Dragon Pi View Post
    I saw an interview with David Ross where he said something to the effect that you have to "Trick" students into learning Kung Fu in order to pass it.
    Some "Magic" would probably be needed to "Trick" students into learning Kung Fu. When I see one of those words then the other word is usually not far behind!

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    Quote Originally Posted by YinOrYan View Post
    Some "Magic" would probably be needed to "Trick" students into learning Kung Fu. When I see one of those words then the other word is usually not far behind!
    nah thats just his sheety scammor bias. Tru kung fu tell it like it is bro straught up savage barbarian

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    Some you trick. Some trick you.

    It's all about finding the proper vessel. Take for example, my coworker at YMAA, David Silver. We just published the first in a trilogy of articles where he discusses his journey to Qigong.

    Read I Saw the Light by David Silver.

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    The return of bawang!

    Quote Originally Posted by GeneChing View Post
    It's all about finding the proper vessel. Take for example, my coworker at YMAA, David Silver. We just published the first in a trilogy of articles where he discusses his journey to Qigong.

    Read I Saw the Light by David Silver.

    Just wanted to update this with the two following articles of David Silver's trilogy:

    Qigong is Ancient Mind/Body Science by David Silver



    You Are Bioelectric by David Silver

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    Quote Originally Posted by GeneChing View Post
    Just wanted to update this with the two following articles of David Silver's trilogy:

    Qigong is Ancient Mind/Body Science by David Silver



    You Are Bioelectric by David Silver

    dam dude when did u join YMAA

    I love Master Yang. I love Master Yang 10 year training camp. Master Yang excellent author. YMAA is the best.

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    Ha! See what happens when you're absent from the forum for so long?

    You miss all the hot news
    Quote Originally Posted by bawang View Post
    dam dude when did u join YMAA

    I love Master Yang. I love Master Yang 10 year training camp. Master Yang excellent author. YMAA is the best.
    YMAA became my full-time job after covid killed our print magazine and my job here went part-time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GeneChing View Post
    You miss all the hot news


    YMAA became my full-time job after covid killed our print magazine and my job here went part-time.
    u gotta go with the counterculture angle, its the only way srs

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