Weird stuff in TCM...... List it!

[Dale Dugas]

Shifu Augustine Fong's Iron Palm herbs contains dried concentrated baby urine. Something about the uric acid helping to breakdown the other herbs and pull them into solution.

[Vajramusti]

Shifu Augustine Fong's Iron Palm herbs contains dried concentrated baby urine. Something about the uric acid helping to breakdown the other herbs and pull them into solution.

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Interesting .
I don't think that he currently makes his jow(s) for the public. Sifu can tell a lot about what's in a jow- evn ones that he did not make.
My late friend Pete Robinson had quite a collection of jows.With his death I have no oidea what happened to his extensive collection. He had some excellent teachers over the years including Gin Foon Mak.

[Dale Dugas]

The herbs were included in Randy Williams' book on Wing Chun: Iron Palm training and Weapons. Being that Randy had trained with Shifu Fong as well as Shifu Fong selling the same liniments under the same names I assumed Randy got the formulas from Shifu Fong.

The Chinese formula listed there included the Dried Urine. The injury Dit Da Jow formula was presented as well. I have filled both formulas for various people who said they work well.

[GeneChing]

I've encountered Virgin boy urine as an element in many tiedajiu recipes. Anyone know where that comes from? There was even a reference to that in the movie King of Masks (1997)

[mawali]

I've encountered Virgin boy urine as an element in many tiedajiu recipes. Anyone know where that comes from? There was even a reference to that in the movie King of Masks (1997)

I wonder if there is a double blind 'taste test' or something to distinguish the virgin boy from the other.
p.s. I think I am a virgin boy