Wing Chun Full Contact Fights

[Phil Redmond]

You re assuming that one need prove you wrong and that one needs, or wants, to participate in MUSU.

No, I'm saying that most WC people don't train for competing and/or never have competed. They are usually the ones who trash talk people who at least have the balls to get out there and fight expecting to see perfect techniques like like seen in drills and chi sau clips. No one has to prove anything to me. I know what I'm talking about and I'm not looking for approval from anyone. Also, there are MANY venues to test your skills. I just used the MUSU since it's in NYC where there are many WC school.

[deejaye72]

phil is right even, though he is a william cheung guy, oh well we all cant be perfect! lol

just kidding phil, i have 2 training buddies that trained twc.
and thats one thing i take my hat off to the william cheung guys at least they spar.

that was both of my buddies complaints when finding a wing chun school there was no sparring, just drills and chi sao.
one thing i fully agree with phil on, real fighting is not pretty and looks nothing like fancy drills or chi sao.

[trubblman]

phil is right even, though he is a william cheung guy, oh well we all cant be perfect! lol

just kidding phil, i have 2 training buddies that trained twc.
and thats one thing i take my hat off to the william cheung guys at least they spar.

that was both of my buddies complaints when finding a wing chun school there was no sparring, just drills and chi sao.
one thing i fully agree with phil on, real fighting is not pretty and looks nothing like fancy drills or chi sao.

I have yet to see pretty wing chun, no matter how effective it was. What I would expect to see is more huen sau, bong sau, pak sau, fook sau (etc), coordinated body mechanics and so on. Seeing that VT is a close range fighting style I see a lot of sparring turning into kick boxing matches - or in other words I see VT being used sort of like a long range style.

[Phil Redmond]

I have yet to see pretty wing chun, no matter how effective it was. What I would expect to see is more huen sau, bong sau, pak sau, fook sau (etc), coordinated body mechanics and so on. Seeing that VT is a close range fighting style I see a lot of sparring turning into kick boxing matches - or in other words I see VT being used sort of like a long range style.

If there is a need to use the techniques you mentioned they'd be used. But then again our use for a fook sau might be different from yours. You do see bong saus and pak sau is some of our fights though. And calling something kick boxing isn't a bad thing. At least they fight.

[Mr. Chang]

Sifu Duncan Leung and Sifu Allan Lee, wear the long bridge, they will nominate Applied Wing Chun.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q90-zYe77JM

[Phil Redmond]

Sifu Duncan Leung and Sifu Allan Lee, wear the long bridge, they will nominate Applied Wing Chun.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q90-zYe77JM

Sifus Alan and Duncan were the ones who showed me how to fight with WC back at the 3 Great Jones St. school.

[mjw]

I did a shidokan "muay thai smoker" kind of ugly and this time I had a 20 lb weight advantage but it is what it is and yes I am new to this sort of thing but won on decision.

Round 1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LvF0ibi3vwU
Round 2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d2zyCSqeru8
Round 3
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PVoZp_Y9j3c

[Phil Redmond]

I did a shidokan "muay thai smoker" kind of ugly and this time I had a 20 lb weight advantage but it is what it is and yes I am new to this sort of thing but won on decision.

Round 1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LvF0ibi3vwU
Round 2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d2zyCSqeru8
Round 3
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PVoZp_Y9j3c

That's the way to do it Matt. Get out there and fight. If you're interested, I have a group for people who are fighting and/or are interested if fighting. If you'd like to join here's the link:
http://sports.groups.yahoo.com/group/wckcg/
People share there. Just send me PM if you're interested.
PR

[Phil Redmond]

I'm not trying to drum up membership for my Wing Chun fighting group. I'll join/support any WC group that's into pressure testing their WC outside of the comfort zone of their kwoons. You see, I don't mind getting hit by another person in a training session. I analyze why I got hit and I work it out. But only one person from here desired to join a group to discuss with WC people who fight or want to fight. Sadly, I anticipated that people are more comfortable in their respective comforts zones.

[mjw]

Thanks yes it is hard to do quite a few WC things with those gloves but you can still use centerline/ triangle theory etc it's just really hard to stick but definitely a way to pressure test things with non wingchun people.....

[Phil Redmond]

Thanks yes it is hard to do quite a few WC things with those gloves but you can still use centerline/ triangle theory etc it's just really hard to stick but definitely a way to pressure test things with non wingchun people.....

What mjw said...

[blackjesus]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Io_qLYs8Ocw

Sigh~~~~

[k gledhill]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Io_qLYs8Ocw

Sigh~~~~

We know that a basic stance standing still with arms outstretched is a bad idea....maybe its on of those hybrid mainland versions.?

[mjw]

you can't just stand still in the basic stance done and done

[Phil Redmond]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Io_qLYs8Ocw