resistance, withdraw, dissolve

[LSWCTN1]

Hendrik,

By 'dissolving' do you mean the skilll that Dale Dugas exhibits? taking the force but not being affected by it?

[Yoshiyahu]

Originally Posted by Hendrik

Who cares about redirecting and recovering?

BOng is alike a rotating three fins fan blade cut the heck out of everything, untouchable.

Great Post Hendrik. So tell me by dissolving force is this same as dissipating the force or dispersing force. Similiar to Tan Sau. When the force comes in it is turn off to emptiness. When you can turn force to emptiness or nothingness is the same as dissolving force?

The word Dissolve means "to cause to disperse or disappear. "

So with your Tan Sau or Tan Da aren't you dissolving force hear. But the key is not so much forward vector where the pressure goes upward. Your intention should be downward. As you go forward. So your Yi emanates both forward and downward at the same time so the force is dissolve to nothingness. Your bridge should be light and soft. This allows one to sense changes, openings, and attacks. Once you sense a change you can redirect, dissolve or withdraw the incoming force. Also what breath do you use when you dissolve. When you strike the breath goes outward. To uproot the breath comes in. To reel in and redirect the breath goes out. How should the breath be when you dissolve? Personally I believe if you inhale you are uprooting but if you exhale you can sink or fajin.

How ever speaking of Dissolving one should be rooted in the feet,
generated from the legs, controlled by the waist, and manifested through the fingers. The body acts as one unit to dissolve incoming force. I see what you mean by withdrawing however. it is the opposite of advancing. If you are sticking to your opponent and feel him advance with great force you withdraw while still maintaining connection. This is how you release force via withdrawing. So first you must yield to force before you can disslove. Would you agree hendrik. When you sense hard force coming on your bridge you must first be soft to yield. If you return hard for hard then you are fighting incoming force. This is resisting. But true WC is not about resisting force with force. Its about turning off force, Its about redirecting energy and creating a whirlwind to send the force back to your opponent. Its about being a lever. If you feel pressure in your right arm empty your left arm, become soft. Allow your force to disappear. But I know the key is the breath. With the proper breath one can control force through their body. But one must be soft to defeat the strong.

Here is a great saying "Entice the opponent toward you by allowing him to advance, lightly and nimbly follow his incoming forcewithout disconnecting and without resisting. When his force reaches its ****hest extent,it will naturally become empty. The opponent can then be let go or countered at will.Maintain your central equilibrium."

So the key is attract to emptiness and disperse the energy. The entire body must be relaxed. Not one once of strength is left in bones,muscles and sinews.

[Hendrik]

Originally Posted by LSWCTN1

Hendrik,

By 'dissolving' do you mean the skilll that Dale Dugas exhibits? taking the force but not being affected by it?

I dont know what Dale is doing so cant comment.

[Hendrik]

Your description is not what I mean, also it is too complicated and too much thoughts.

Originally Posted by Yoshiyahu

Great Post Hendrik. So tell me by dissolving force is this same as dissipating the force or dispersing force. Similiar to Tan Sau. When the force comes in it is turn off to emptiness. When you can turn force to emptiness or nothingness is the same as dissolving force?

The word Dissolve means "to cause to disperse or disappear. "

So with your Tan Sau or Tan Da aren't you dissolving force hear. But the key is not so much forward vector where the pressure goes upward. Your intention should be downward. As you go forward. So your Yi emanates both forward and downward at the same time so the force is dissolve to nothingness. Your bridge should be light and soft. This allows one to sense changes, openings, and attacks. Once you sense a change you can redirect, dissolve or withdraw the incoming force. Also what breath do you use when you dissolve. When you strike the breath goes outward. To uproot the breath comes in. To reel in and redirect the breath goes out. How should the breath be when you dissolve? Personally I believe if you inhale you are uprooting but if you exhale you can sink or fajin.

How ever speaking of Dissolving one should be rooted in the feet,
generated from the legs, controlled by the waist, and manifested through the fingers. The body acts as one unit to dissolve incoming force. I see what you mean by withdrawing however. it is the opposite of advancing. If you are sticking to your opponent and feel him advance with great force you withdraw while still maintaining connection. This is how you release force via withdrawing. So first you must yield to force before you can disslove. Would you agree hendrik. When you sense hard force coming on your bridge you must first be soft to yield. If you return hard for hard then you are fighting incoming force. This is resisting. But true WC is not about resisting force with force. Its about turning off force, Its about redirecting energy and creating a whirlwind to send the force back to your opponent. Its about being a lever. If you feel pressure in your right arm empty your left arm, become soft. Allow your force to disappear. But I know the key is the breath. With the proper breath one can control force through their body. But one must be soft to defeat the strong.

Here is a great saying "Entice the opponent toward you by allowing him to advance, lightly and nimbly follow his incoming forcewithout disconnecting and without resisting. When his force reaches its ****hest extent,it will naturally become empty. The opponent can then be let go or countered at will.Maintain your central equilibrium."

So the key is attract to emptiness and disperse the energy. The entire body must be relaxed. Not one once of strength is left in bones,muscles and sinews.

[Yoshiyahu]

Originally Posted by Hendrik

Your description is not what I mean, also it is too complicated and too much thoughts.

Please share in simpler terms what do mean as for Dissolving force?

1.Also what breath do you use for uprooting and dissolving?

2.When you can turn force to emptiness or nothingness is the same as dissolving force?

3.How do you dissolve force with Sil Lim Tau?

[Xiao3 Meng4]

Upon further reflection, I think Hendrik is alluding to IMA skills along the lines of Xing Yi's San Ti training. I never heard the word "dissolve" used to explain it, but I guess it could apply to the idea of dissolving the intent of one's opponent, as well as dissolving the blockages between one's own senses, form, and intent.

[Hendrik]

Originally Posted by Yoshiyahu

Please share in simpler terms what do mean as for Dissolving force?

1.Also what breath do you use for uprooting and dissolving?

2.When you can turn force to emptiness or nothingness is the same as dissolving force?

3.How do you dissolve force with Sil Lim Tau?

Find a sifu who knows to train you instead of keep spinning your mind , misleading yourself, and wasting life.

[Hendrik]

Originally Posted by Xiao3 Meng4

Upon further reflection, I think Hendrik is alluding to IMA skills along the lines of Xing Yi's San Ti training. I never heard the word "dissolve" used to explain it, but I guess it could apply to the idea of dissolving the intent of one's opponent, as well as dissolving the blockages between one's own senses, form, and intent.

intent is punch, punch is intention, physical is intention, intention is physical.

Nature got no label of Xing Yi, Bagua.......ect.
and Reality is not a speculation according to anyone's logical thinking.

When you think dissolving you already use mind and that is artifacts non nature.

[Yoshiyahu]

Originally Posted by Hendrik

intent is punch, punch is intention, physical is intention, intention is physical.

Nature got no label of Xing Yi, Bagua.......ect.
and Reality is not a speculation according to anyone's logical thinking.

When you think dissolving you already use mind and that is artifacts non nature.

what is dissolving? what is the intention?

When I asked you questions to discuss what the heck you are talking about you say

Find a sifu who knows to train you instead of keep spinning your mind , misleading yourself, and wasting life.
Today 03:19 PM

Why not discuss these things. You seem free to share speculation but share what you know my friend. Share the answer to Song of Flow. An is the key. Please tell me what is dissolve...What is the song of Yi the song of Intention Please share?

[Yoshiyahu]

Originally Posted by kung fu fighter

In Your opinion what are the key mechanics needed to be able to dissolve incoming force, and please don't give the same old answer of go bai si. This is a messageboard for discussion.

kungfufighter the key components you need are to dissolve incoming force is to basai and asked your sifu! You need to practice what your sifu tells you. That is key to dissolving incoming force...

By none other than the infamous
Hendrik Bullcrapper

[Xiao3 Meng4]

...unless your sifu doesn't have t3h r34a1 |)|5501\/3 from 1850.

Then you're f*cked.

[Hendrik]

Originally Posted by Xiao3 Meng4

...unless your sifu doesn't have t3h r34a1 |)|5501\/3 from 1850.

Then you're f*cked.

Sure, that is life everyone needs to face.

[Yoshiyahu]

Originally Posted by Hendrik

Sure, that is life everyone needs to face.

What is something everyone needs to face?

[Xiao3 Meng4]

Originally Posted by Yoshiyahu

What is something everyone needs to face?

Death.

Any other riddles? Here's one:

What's greater than the greatest
Less than the least
The rich need it
The poor have it
And if you eat it you will die?

[Yoshiyahu]

wow thats morbid buddy...ha ha...but so true...


So whats something from your view point that can excels ones WC????


What are some elements people should study,practice and meditate on...

Originally Posted by Xiao3 Meng4

Death.

Any other riddles? Here's one:

What's greater than the greatest
Less than the least
The rich need it
The poor have it
And if you eat it you will die?