Iron Fist

[Jimbo]

IMO, it's too late to give IF an effective makeover now, unless they just scrapped the whole thing and rebooted it with a whole different cast and crew from the start. And it's too late for that, too.

I don't believe that Finn Jones has the ability to look good doing MA onscreen. Just like David Carradine never looked good doing MA, no matter how many years he (apparently) tried. Plus, Finn lacks the type of charisma of a MAist. He actually looks more like a hairdresser, or someone you'd see working at Starbucks.

[GeneChing]

Just like David Carradine never looked good doing MA, no matter how many years he (apparently) tried.

You know, I thought he looked okay in his final martial arts film, Kung Fu Killer, but that was more for the ultravi - it was kind of Riki-Oh (1991) and I luv that film.

But I feel ya, Jimbo.

Now I'm bummed that our forum doesn't have a Riki-Oh thread. I'm always a little bummed when there's nothing on the classics posted here and try to rectify that with fresh reviews and such.

[GeneChing]

...what a novel idea.

Iron Fist’s Finn Jones is actually training for season two
By Kervyn Cloete Posted on September 28, 2017 5 min read



There were many, many things wrong with the first season of Marvel’s Iron Fist. From the head-scratching abandonment of the source material’s unique old-school kung-fu fantasy tone in favour of an Arrow clone, to pointless narrative wheel-spinning and absolutely terrible villains. Easily the most grievous offence though was the show’s fight scenes.

Marvel’s Daredevil had already set the bar **** high for fight choreography when it came to their Netflix TV series. Follow-up series Jessica Jones and Luke Cage didn’t have that same level of fisticuffs, but it was never expected from those characters or their stories. Danny Rand aka the Immortal Iron Fist though is supposed to be one of, if not the best, kung fu practitioners in the Marvel universe – so the TV series needed to step up.

It stepped up alright… and then flailed around sloppily like a hyperactive child who had just walked out of a kung fu movie at the cinema and was now trying to copy all the moves using his dodgy memory and no real physical skills. To call the fight scenes poor would be an understatement. And as we learned later, there was a good reason for their terribleness: Iron Fist himself.



Star Finn Jones had already been cast in the role with no actual martial arts background, but then doubled down on his lack of preparedness by only learning the fight choreography for scenes 15 minutes before they were about to be shot. Jones’ tight schedule was apparently to blame, but whatever the reason it was embarrassing.

With Marvel’s The Defenders – the miniseries that brought all four the Netflix series together – basically shooting back to back with Iron Fist, that didn’t allow Jones to get in any proper training for a second time. However, at this point he had been winging it enough that there was a clear higher level of comfort with many of the moves, resulting in far more believable fight sequences. It still wasn’t quite as impressive as it should be, but it was a huge improvement.

Well, I’m hoping that this upswing in pugilist quality continues for the upcoming Iron Fist season two, as Jones officially won’t have any excuses to hide behind. Despite still being months away before going in front of the cameras for the second season, Jones has reportedly already started hitting the dojo to prepare.

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Jones himself revealed back to Inverse back in August that he was going to get an early start on his martial arts training this time around, and is now just living up to promises.

We’re at least four or five months away from shooting so this time around, I’m being given a lot more preparation leading up to Season 2, which I think is really gonna have a huge improvement on the quality of the fight scenes in Season 2 of Iron Fist.

It **** well better. Now if only there was a dojo we could send Jones to where he could train to have his Danny Rand come across as less of a petulant man-child, or where the writers could learn that we really could not care less about corporate takeovers when you have a lead character who literally went around punching dragons in the heart.

Iron Fist season two does not have a release date yet, but it will follow on from the rest of the Phase Two for Marvel’s Netflix shows in The Punisher, Jessica Jones season two, Luke Cage season two and Daredevil season three.

Last Updated: September 28, 2017

[GeneChing]

‘Iron Fist’ Season 2 Adds ‘Star Trek’ Alum Alice Eve (EXCLUSIVE)
By Joe Otterson @JoeOtterson
TV Reporter


CREDIT: STEPHEN LOVEKIN/REX/SHUTTERSTOCK

Alice Eve is set to appear in “Iron Fist” Season 2 on Netflix, Variety has learned exclusively.

Eve’s role in the series is being kept under wraps, but she joins a returning cast that includes series star Finn Jones along with Jessica Henwick, Tom Pelphrey, Jessica Stroup, and Sacha Dhawan. An English actress who has appeared in film, television, and theatre, Eve is best known to American audiences for her role as Carol Marcus in the film “Star Trek: Into Darkness.” She also recently appeared in the third season of “Black Mirror” and the Lionsgate film “Misconduct.” She will also co-star in the Dakota Fanning-led film “Please Stand By,” due to be released in theaters in January.

“We are very excited to have an actress of Alice’s stature join the cast of ‘Marvel’s Iron Fist,’” said Marvel’s head of television and series executive producer Jeph Loeb. “Her exceptional talent brings an intrigue and danger to her character unlike anyone else.”

Eve is repped by Independent Talent Group in the U.K and CAA and Untitled Entertainment in the U.S.

“Iron Fist” stars “Game of Thrones” alum Jones as Danny Rand, the heir to the multi-billion dollar Rand Corp. who returns to New York after training in martial arts for years in the mysterious city of K’un-Lun. Through his training, he was chosen to be the living weapon known as the Iron Fist, which allows him to channel his chi energy into his fists. It was the fourth Marvel-Netflix series to be released. The show was preceded by “Daredevil,” “Jessica Jones,” and “Luke Cage.” All four main characters then teamed up for “The Defenders” event series, which debuted on Netflix in August.

Season 2 will also see Raven Metzner take over as showrunner from Scott Buck, who left “Iron Fist” to work on the Marvel-ABC series “Inhumans.”

I liked Alice Eve in Star Trek: Into Darkness, but I doubt she can redeem Jones.

[GeneChing]

6 new Netflix original shows got trashed by critics in 2017 — here's the list
John Lynch
Dec. 15, 2017, 2:11 PM

For the most part, Netflix had an accomplished year in producing a number of great original shows.

But the company also had a handful of new series that critics tore apart.

From the lackluster Naomi Watts-led series "Gypsy," to the disappointing Marvel show "Iron Fist," six shows that Netflix debuted in 2017 received heaps of negative reviews on their way to earning a "Rotten" score from the reviews aggregator Rotten Tomatoes.

Here are the six worst Netflix original shows that debuted in 2017, ranked from bad to worst, according to critics:

6. "Girlboss" — 31%
Critic score: 31%
Audience score: 72%

Netflix description: "Rebellious and broke, Sophia stumbles into creating an online business and learns how to be the boss. A comedy inspired by the best-selling memoir."

What critics said: "Watching an ignorant but energetic youngster rebel against adulthood is nothing new, and Girlboss' iteration would be fine if it showed some semblance of self-awareness." — IndieWire

5. "Neo Yokio" — 30%
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Critic score: 30%
Audience score: 56%

Netflix description: "Joined by his faithful mecha-butler, Kaz Kaan pursues love, fashion and supernatural forces amid Neo Yokio's sinister high society."

What critics said: "There's a lot of talent involved in Neo Yokio... Yet, somehow, the show has no soul. It's dead on arrival." — The Verge

4. "Gypsy" — 24%
Critic score: 24%
Audience score: 85%

Netflix description: "Therapist Jean Holloway develops dangerous and intimate relationships with the people in her patients' lives in this simmering psychological thriller."

What critics said: "It's all fun and games until you desperately start hoping that your protagonist loses her malpractice suit." — The Village Voice

3. "Friends From College" — 23%
Critic score: 23%
Audience score: 73%

Netflix description: "Twenty years after graduation, a tight-knit group of college friends reconnects and discovers that love hasn't gotten easier with age."

What critics said: "What a cast. And what a waste. Friends From College is one of the year's biggest disappointments." — Entertainment Weekly

2. "Disjointed" — 21%
Critic score: 21%
Audience score: 74%

Netflix description: "Pot activist Ruth Whitefeather Feldman runs a medical marijuana dispensary while encouraging her loyal patients to chill out and enjoy the high life."

What critics said: "There's not enough weed in the Golden State to wring consistent laughs from a show that's mostly as stale as an unwashed bong." — CNN

1. "Marvel's Iron Fist" — 19%

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Critic score: 19%
Audience score: 76%

Netflix description: "Danny Rand resurfaces 15 years after being presumed dead. Now, with the power of the Iron Fist, he seeks to reclaim his past and fulfill his destiny."

What critics said: "This series takes everything good Marvel has done, takes it on a joy ride, then returns it scratched, bruised, and smelling like patchouli and broken promises. After the 13-hour slog, I'm not angry — I'm just disappointed." — Vox

Even that photo makes me angry. So wrong on so many levels.