Develop FaJin in Wing Chun

[Yoshiyahu]

How do you develop Fajin in your Wing Chun lineage.

There are various ways we do so in mines. There is Hard way and Soft Way. I will discuss some of the ways that develop the application usage faster. Yes indeed practicing the forms while issuing fajin and practicing the weapon forms and punches in the air with Jing does develop it as well. We also have chi gung exercises that cultivate chi and leads to Jing development as well! But the things I listed below are the specific design with Ging Development in mind.

Ways we develop usable Jing!

Hard Way:

The Pole Drill or Gun Sau skill

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dUCqk...1DA57EA242E030

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ctq32LfdxkU

Wooden Dummy while Issuing force:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R6wMWdrt_qA

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kuq4A...eature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rmQb7Ly7ClQ time stamp 0.54


Soft Way:

Extinguishing the candle:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mp-BFD_fS0o

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6sR-z3cd4Ao

Punch a Through Paper:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4uXwslU-dgY

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rmQb7Ly7ClQ


Of course there is more to it than just this. Like Punching the wall bag with jing, and breaking down the punch to isolate each part of the arm to build each indiviually as well as punching with the entire structure. Also Fast Explosive push ups assit in building your ging in your punches. An standing and balancing on bricks teaches you how to focus your structure and pull power directly from the ground up. There are alot of details one can go into. But what are some of things you guys do as part of your Ging Training?

[Hendrik]

IMHO, one needs to clearly know what is Jin. Fajin, is a very serious misconception in the west. When people talk about fajin. It often means mimic the Chen taiji way of expressing their strike with their Dan tien rotation and body whipping.

So, often, fajin become something extra instead of something natural . Every style has their way to generate power and express power. Even the yang taichi generate and express power different with the Chen taiji .

In white crane, the karate type of white crane generate power differently with the late evolve fuzou crane.

And it is not necessary that one has to shake their body to fajin. Infact, most of the time for the me too martial artists, that is just show business which Cary no real weight. And also, it might counter the art's characteristics instead of aid it. So, do western boxing needs a fajin?

To begin a serious honest discussion in this topic, one must know what is Jin, what is it relationship with strength, how is the physical body dependency, what the Jin intended to achieve, what is those shake and whip for.......ect

[YouKnowWho]

what are some of things you guys do as part of your Jing Training?

The simple Fajin drills are important. Here are the 3 most famous Fajin styles in the TCMA.

Baji:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=23TG4IFCzhg

Chen Taiji:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gj6UaEay5Lg

XYLH:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G1bQ6kvMMAY

[Hendrik]

How about this?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bf0DNMElas8

[YouKnowWho]

How about this?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bf0DNMElas8

I don't know much about Wu Taiji.

Do you like the footwork and hand skill at 1.06 - 1.14? It should work well with your "snake engine".

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G1bQ6kvMMAY

[Vajramusti]

All four are good examples of fajin given different structures. All four are by top quality peop;e who have spent many hours and years in developing their skills.No easy short cuts.

[YouKnowWho]

All four are good examples of fajin given different structures. All four are by top quality people who have spent many hours and years in developing their skills.No easy short cuts.

I'm so happey that we agree on this.

[imperialtaichi]

I'd like to call "Jing" as the resultant power effect, and not the power itself.

"Fajing" is the issue of such resultant power effect.

[Hendrik]

I don't know much about Wu Taiji.

Do you like the footwork and hand skill at 1.06 - 1.14? It should work well with your "snake engine".

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G1bQ6kvMMAY

Thanks.

The clip is snake shape .

[Hendrik]

So what is jin? Who likes to share? And why it is called fajing?

[Robinhood]

So what is jin? Who likes to share? And why it is called fajing?

I would say jing is what you don't see before the movement, and the fa is the result you see in the other guy.

[Vajramusti]

On a similar track as imperial taichi- fajing is the issuing of explosive power. In demos in order to be understood-it can look like moving some one far but if used with real intent-the receiver is going down.

[YouKnowWho]

I used to have great interest in Fajin and speed. Until oneday I realized that a wife who is rich and also cook well just doesn't exist.

Here is a simple test, if you jump up in the air, and use the same arm to throw 3 punches (it's much harder than to throw 3 punches by using both arms) before your feet land back on the ground, No matter which famous Fajin style that you train, you just can't have 100% Fajin on all your 3 punches.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rtQ8QJfYtPE

If you put too much gun power in your machine gun shells, your machine gun will explode. If you give your machine gun sometime to cool down between each shot, you have just defeated the purpose to have a "machine gun".

Since "chain punches" is an important part of WC, it will be difficult not to talk about "Fajin" along with "speed" at the same time.

[Hendrik]

John,

What is Jin for you? And what is fajin?

[YouKnowWho]

John,

What is Jin for you? And what is fajin?

Jin = force
Fajin = generate force

There are long Jin and short Jin. Both are generated exponentially as bell curve within short period of time. The long Jin (like Baji Jin) take longer distance. The short Jin (like Chen Taiji Dan Tien rotation Jin or SC body vibration Jin) take shorter distance. The long Jin is suitable for "offense". The short Jin is suitable for "defense".

http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=...9QEwBQ&dur=200