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tnwingtsun
12-12-2001, 05:26 AM
Can't seem to get away from this Evil lad!!

Xebsball
12-12-2001, 05:36 AM
Man, i hate Harry Poter.

Kiasyd
12-12-2001, 05:41 AM
Whew.... I thought that I was alone on my crusade against Harry Potter! This d@mn movie has taken almost all theaters of town :P

-- Kiasyd

Chang Style Novice
12-12-2001, 05:49 AM
You guys are just jealous 'cause you know he'd beat Bruce Lee like a rug.

Kiasyd
12-12-2001, 05:52 AM
You guys are just jealous 'cause you know he'd beat Bruce Lee like a rug.


Oh, that depends... Broomsticks are allowed?? :rolleyes:

-- Kiasyd

Skarbromantis
12-12-2001, 07:11 AM
Forget Bruce.... Harry vs Yip Man :D

Who would take it?

Skard1

Water Dragon
12-12-2001, 07:26 AM
The movie was actually pretty good. I took my oldest to see it this weekend. I was entertained, but he loved it!!

Budokan
12-12-2001, 07:35 AM
Harry Potter isn't anything more than Willy Wonka with magic.

The movie and the books (which are badly written by the way from an adult professional level) are all geared towards kids. If you take them in that light then they become more more palatable.

But I still won't go see the d*mn thing.

apoweyn
12-12-2001, 07:39 AM
every other adult i've heard from LOVED them. including a couple of writer friends.

but opinions vary, i guess. in any event, i'm pretty indifferent.


stuart b.

David
12-12-2001, 07:57 AM
I just finished reading all 4 harry potter books. They start good and get better. I read them back to back and saw the film about 10 days ago. That was good, too though I decided i hate cinemas - too loud and it's weird seeing people's heads so big. Altogether unnatural.

Badly written? I don't agree at all.

Gigante
12-12-2001, 08:41 AM
I saw the movie and didn't like it... too childish...
No violence, no blood, only "cute" little children running
around, eating candy and opening presents...

Can't wait to see some REAL fantasy... LOTR !!

BTW, isn't Harry supposed to be a magician?
How come he didn't use ANY magic in the whole
friggin movie? Instead he let a girl fight for him...

No_Know
12-12-2001, 09:07 AM
Magic not used by Harry Potter in the Harry Potter movie? Theoretically, there is some aspect of magic that only requires a gesture and a thought. With that the broom to the hand was magic used by Harry Potter in the Harry Potter movie.~

Jeff Liboiron
12-12-2001, 09:26 AM
POTTER IS SATAN!!!!!!!!

halfling
12-12-2001, 09:39 AM
Harry Potter wasn't a magician--- he is a wizard. you know, "You're a wizard Harry!" I don't know the difference, I havn't read the books but maybe he doesn't do magic, he might just be magical. I mean he can fly on a broomstick.... I can't do that. And the movie was probably childish because it was a child's movie. I went and got a kick out of it but them some would say i'm a child so......i dunno.

Starchaser107
12-12-2001, 09:53 AM
I saw it.
before I saw it I was wondering what the hype was with all of these adults that are behaving like children to go read these books and see this movie.
personally before experiencing it myself I thought that it was just Pokemon, or Power Rangers or Spice Girls, or New Kids on the Block on a grander and scarie scale only because grown adults were on harrys jock.

well now that ive seen it , i enjoyed it but i still wonder whats so special about harrys jock? , i mean it was a real cool show and i enjoyed it thoroughly...but i just dont get the hype still, maybe if i read the book...

But what was really cool was in Kiss of the dragon the fight scene with jet and the twins... that was cool ...
but ahm back to harry.

Yajirobe
12-12-2001, 09:53 AM
harry potter (didn't capitalize because his name doesn't diserve that respect) is a total and utter jive.

KC Elbows
12-12-2001, 09:59 AM
Finally! A place on the forum where we can talk about Harry Potter!!:eek:

No_Know
12-12-2001, 10:12 AM
Good mention. Not a citizen of the United States, the President of the United States. A wizard is a class or sub category of one who uses Magic. A wizrad does not do wiz they too do magic. They do it way better than perhaps a lower level magic user.

Not do magic but is magical, good thinking halfling.

Frank Exchange
12-12-2001, 10:16 AM
Well, I can tell you why the books are so popular here in England.

For a start, they are intelligently written, but done so from a childs perspective, without the need to condescend or patronize.

But the main reason for the popularity, in my opinion, is largely independent of the magic and wizardry aspects.

At the end of the day, they are school stories. True, a different type of school from the one the average kid will attend, but still recognizable.

They are not so very different from the Enid Blyton school stories from the 30s/40s, which are still popular today. They also deal with boarding schools, friends, favourite/hated teachers, and other things which kids can relate to.

Those books hark back to a more innocent time, when drugs and violence, teenage pregnancy, hell, even sex before marriage were not part of the popular conciousness, and didn't exist in the popular writing of the time.

I suspect a large proportion of adults enjoy them for the same reason they enjoyed the Blyton era books.

Starchaser107
12-12-2001, 10:48 AM
you know I usually hear that intelligently written comment in reference to the harry potter books and nobody until now has really clarified what intelligently written means or get into the psychology of what it is people are looking for, and why this satisfies that need.

I mean the Stand by King was intelligently written and I remember X-Men comics being intelligently written back in the day when I was a teen reading that stuff , Yeah both King and Marvels X-men have thier fans but this Harry Potter stuff not only does it sell well and have the merchandice thing going as well, but this insane contraversy about it being devil worship.

mmnkay. I never heard anyone create such a havok about comics which involve fantasy before. never heard anyone say" boy that jean grey or boy that wolverine is the devil !"
who knows maybe they have.

but what about mickey mouse in fantasia he was a wizard in that. and there was magic in cinderella and sleeping beauty how come nobody lashes out against these stories. or quotes bible passages that denounce these fairy (faerie) tales?

http://disney.go.com/disneyvideos/animatedfilms/fantasia2000/flash/interface.html

apoweyn
12-12-2001, 11:12 AM
they do.

hell, the wizard of oz gets reamed for its portrayal of witchcraft and even drug use. (they fall asleep in a field of poppies, as in opium.)

ridiculous, but it happens.



stuart b.

qeySuS
12-12-2001, 12:07 PM
heh i enjoyed it :) Loved it, of course LOTR is a "real" fantasy movie but this is a pretty good movie too, i really enjoyed it.

Starchaser107
12-12-2001, 12:10 PM
but I thought that was just Alice in Wonderland (with the falling asleep in Poppy Fields) and the whole story was supposed to be one big lsd trip. Its quite possible it was in Wizard of OZ as well but I dont remember that part.
But hey people just need a scape goat to blame for the worlds problems beit rap music, or pegan folklore.

King did say in his book On Writing that he has been accused of being demonic or in leauge with the devil if you will, but I recently got Harry Potter hate mail in my inbox, reasons not to go to the show... Ive never seen this type of thing...

Wait... youre right its been going on all along..
I remember when Smurfs got banned in the 80s because of this type of thing. Smurfs ...can you believe it. And I remember they tried to do the same thing to pokemon... P1$$es me off because I'm an artist and I hate that Salem witch hunt mentality. we got alotta it back home. Martial Arts is devil worship. Mostly from Pentacostals and Baptists though, Sometimes the Catholics and Anglicans jump on it as well, The Adventists occasionaly gyre and gimble but theyre too busy condemning the other denominations cause they dont worship on saturday, then you got those churches with the long a$$ names like First Church of the Lord of Salvation that died on the Cross Built on a Rock by the Blood of Jesus Church of God, I dont know much about non denominationals but I pretty much figure its the same scenario. Oh and Yoga is Devil Worship too. So is the Lodge, all secret societies are devil worship, and the only book worth reading is the bible. And you got people that listen to this rant.
:D

apoweyn
12-12-2001, 12:16 PM
they banned the smurfs?! good grief. i was no fan, but what the hell?!

yeah, it was wizard of oz. they all fall asleep in a poppy field thanks to a little intervention by the wicked witch (satan's handmaiden).

it's always curious to me how the actions of the main villain in a movie like that can be taken by some people as ADVOCATING anything. i mean, who came out of that movie going, "that witch ROCKED!!"

nobody.

[shrug]


stuart b.

GunnedDownAtrocity
12-12-2001, 01:19 PM
they started calling my harry pothead at work.

GunnedDownAtrocity
12-12-2001, 01:19 PM
it might make a little more sense if you knew i have long hair.

joedoe
12-12-2001, 03:32 PM
This gives me the royal sh!ts. People read into things so much today. For fu(ks sake it is a children's story - nothing more, nothing less.

I personally loved the books and thoroughly enjoyed the movie.

Xebsball
12-12-2001, 05:24 PM
The smurfs were kick ass, i feel sorry for this new generation that never watched the smurfs. BTW, did you know the smurfs were comunists?

Satanachia
12-12-2001, 08:01 PM
I don't get this whole harry potter thing. I had a friend who is nuts about it, and she got me to read the book.

The thing is, its just a kids book. Nothing more. Its not intelligently written in my eyes at all. Its **** straight forward.
Don't get me wrong, its not bad for what it is. But what it is, is simply a childrens book. And i'd only put it slightly above average at that.

I don't get it at all. Maybe its the marketing. I figure i'll just wait a while for it to slip back like power rangers and pokemon....

Satanachia
12-12-2001, 08:03 PM
Wow. Its blots out the word d-a-m-n...

JAZA
12-12-2001, 08:25 PM
WE just have to read J.R.R. TOlkien books to realize what a good fantasy book is.
HArry Potter is just a poor imitation, just to see that elves in Harry Potter are like monster.

Mika
07-15-2005, 02:51 PM
You've gotta love this guy!
He's just making friends left and right. Not to mention making sense :D

He is my favorite..umm...comedian :D
Move over, George Carlin!


Many thanks for your kind letter of February 20th and the informative book which you sent me in the same mail. It is good, that you enlighten people about Harry Potter, because those are subtle seductions, which act unnoticed and by this deeply distort Christianity in the soul, before it can grow properly.

http://www.lifesite.net/ldn/2005/jul/05071301.html

How confused are the confused now, is the question to ask... :cool:

SevenStar
07-15-2005, 03:54 PM
That's understandable, actually. I know of many christians who even oppose pokemon, because they are creatures with powers.... like demons.

TonyM.
07-15-2005, 04:41 PM
Which leads us to the next episode. "Harry Potter and the lost debilitory cream."

Royal Dragon
07-15-2005, 09:00 PM
LOL!!! SEE, I'm not the only one who thinks he looks like Darth Sideous!!!

Mika
07-16-2005, 12:32 AM
You mean this? :D

http://www.saunalahti.fi/tsalon/bbc_a_new_pope.jpg

More here...
http://www.potku.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1010

This new Pope is my favorite guy. I mean, he is doing a much better job destroying the reputation of the Catholic church than anyone from the outside could ever have done.

Except that I don't really think that is a good idea. Religion has its place (and scientists actually are thinking now religion might be genetic) and it keeps a lot of people hanging on. But to take a step back like this...The Catholic chuch has probably gone back several decades with this new Pope. How can one person have this much power to begin with? A lot like Putin in Russia, I might add...

There are several countries in which people aren't very educated, so they view life through their priests and ministers. Now, if these people were just beginning to learn acceptance and true Christianity (love for your fellow man), what are they going to think now with this new Pope messing it all up? That's what worries me. And I do feel sorry for those poor SOBs who don't know what to think now...

kungfu cowboy
07-16-2005, 01:00 AM
He's just upset that somebody else's fiction is selling so much better than their fiction.


And it's easier to sell fairy tales that last to young new recruits.

Should just keep yap shut as:
1) freedom of speech
2)it is a friggin' story!

Religion, please meet Dodo!

bonetone
07-16-2005, 04:00 AM
I oppose Harry Potter, not for its stupid fantasy schmultz, but for the fact that its marketed so heavily and every kid and every adult too has to have it so they can be cool and in the know. Screw Harry Potter. 25 bucks or so a book, what a gyp. All those bratty little f**kers making their parents buy them that unenlightening garbage. That money could be used for their college education, or to feed a poor family for a month in a 3rd world nation, or to educate illiterates in some useful knowledge. Harry Potter has become a huge corporation that's making some serious dough for their bloody, filthy, greedy pockets. death to Harry Potter and mass marketed krapp. If Chokotu Kyan were alive he'd totally destory Harry Potter, and the pope, that is a fact folks!

GunnedDownAtrocity
07-16-2005, 11:00 AM
someone just needs to throw the new pope a good salad tossing and he would be a new man.

Anthony
07-17-2005, 07:47 AM
Quite frankly, I'm surprised that American children would actually be interested in a BOOK. Does it have alot of pictures or does it come with a video game DVD or something?

As far as the new Pope is concerned.....I would rather leave him out of a forum about Chinese Martial Arts. Like the saying goes, "opinions are like a--holes, everybody's got one." In this case I can formulate my own and prefer not to hear those of others. It's like the abortion issue. The discussion is too personal, and will never have any kind of closure.....in other words, waste of time.

"No Religion or Politics".......just like the old bar rule says. I think it applies equally well in alot of other places. Especially here. This is a light hearted forum about MA. Go to CNN.com or something to discuss the new Pope.

Cheers!

GunnedDownAtrocity
07-17-2005, 08:25 PM
you haven't been here long have you?

i don't even mean no disrespect .... but if you are saying religion or politics shouldn't be discussed on kfo you have definatley missed a couple thousand posts on just that. i've missed them too for the most part, but thats because i just skip the threads. occasionally ill get in early on one of these and say something off the wall, but i have no desire to argue such things online. that said i have come to accept that doesn't have a **** thing to do with anyone else. they obviously like it, or they like the abuse, and it certainly isn't going to stop any time soon. only thing you can do is accept it and stay out of the threads you want no part of.

GeneChing
03-28-2008, 05:07 PM
...I just had to put this some where here and I didn't think it deserved it's own thread.

Magiquest (www.magiquest.com)

Crucio!!

TenTigers
03-28-2008, 05:16 PM
Over marketed? I don't agree. I think this is what people today need. anything that lights that spark and kindles the fire of imagination in both young and old alike, is a blessing in my book. People forget how to play, how to run, jump, and dream.
oh wait, that's why there is TCMA.














shaddap, I am so fukin kidding.(about the tcma part)

NJM
03-28-2008, 05:17 PM
...I just had to put this some where here and I didn't think it deserved it's own thread.

Magiquest (www.magiquest.com)

Crucio!!

This would have been partially successful

Ten years ago.

Lucas
03-28-2008, 05:19 PM
This would have been partially successful

Ten years ago.

The wand element alone will sell itself off of harry potters back.

David Jamieson
03-28-2008, 05:28 PM
if they made that a porno adventure, opened a theme park in nevada and changed the wands to *****s, they would make a billion in the short term!

TenTigers
03-28-2008, 05:31 PM
Harry Potter meets the Holodeck?

GunnedDownAtrocity
03-28-2008, 05:33 PM
someone just needs to throw the new pope a good salad tossing and he would be a new man.

man i love me.

Black Jack II
03-28-2008, 07:25 PM
Over marketed? I don't agree. I think this is what people today need. anything that lights that spark and kindles the fire of imagination in both young and old alike, is a blessing in my book. People forget how to play, how to run, jump, and dream.

True dat, anything that gets kids to read is a good deal. Those books have been a real treat for a lot of parents who were having a hard time finding their kids something to enjoy in a book and now their are whole fleets of kids buying up other books because of just this one series.

Good for Harry Potter.:)

Lucas
03-28-2008, 07:26 PM
man i love me.

So does the pope, so i hear...

BoulderDawg
03-28-2008, 08:15 PM
Doesn't the Pope have a right to express his opinion?

I could really care less how someone feels about the entertainment I choose. Let the Pope or whoever raise the roof about it!

Shaolin Wookie
03-29-2008, 06:42 AM
I oppose Harry Potter, not for its stupid fantasy schmultz, but for the fact that its marketed so heavily and every kid and every adult too has to have it so they can be cool and in the know. Screw Harry Potter. 25 bucks or so a book, what a gyp. All those bratty little f**kers making their parents buy them that unenlightening garbage. That money could be used for their college education, or to feed a poor family for a month in a 3rd world nation, or to educate illiterates in some useful knowledge. Harry Potter has become a huge corporation that's making some serious dough for their bloody, filthy, greedy pockets. death to Harry Potter and mass marketed krapp. If Chokotu Kyan were alive he'd totally destory Harry Potter, and the pope, that is a fact folks!

The fact that someone can get the "dumb" kids to read a book--that's good writing. Personally, I think it's crap. But hey, I had my dragonlance phase when I was twelve. I just thank the fates I stumbled from there into Dumas and the great 19th Century French and Russian writers, to the Victorians, to the Renaissance, medieval, and finally the Restoration and Enlightenment.

Why eviscerate Harry Potter? It's not culturally exclusive, religious, or political--it's about imagination. Seems like a step up from the usual culture brainwashing material aimed at pre-teens (and it's funny the Pope, whose religion has advocated more magic-stories than a season of MindFreak, would start the crack-down on Quidditch. At least Harry Potter isn't cramming theology down their throats).

But yeah....the thirty-year-old Wiccan chick who dresses like it's Halloween every day.......yeah, she might want to put that stuff down.

TenTigers
03-29-2008, 07:11 AM
Wiccan chicks are HOT!:cool:

David Jamieson
03-29-2008, 07:46 AM
Wiccan chicks are HOT!:cool:

Uh No, No they are not.

see:

not pretty (http://www.wpr.org/news/images/Ministers.jpg)

In fact, many act like retarded renfare participants and haven't got a fecking clue...but, this is about roman catholics right? lol

Shaolin Wookie
03-29-2008, 09:08 AM
Uh No, No they are not.

see:

not pretty (http://www.wpr.org/news/images/Ministers.jpg)

In fact, many act like retarded renfare participants and haven't got a fecking clue...but, this is about roman catholics right? lol

Roman Catholics.....Wiccans......it's like the difference between Backyard Wrestling and the WWF. Really, is either one really that much more respectable in the big picture?


**Disclaimer**my girlfriend is Catholic, and if she's reading this, I'm not talking about her Pope.

GunnedDownAtrocity
03-29-2008, 10:40 AM
Uh No, No they are not.

see:

not pretty (http://www.wpr.org/news/images/Ministers.jpg)

In fact, many act like retarded renfare participants and haven't got a fecking clue...but, this is about roman catholics right? lol

my friend is a wiccan. she's a hot bisexual (i call her a partially recovered lesbian).

she also got a full ride to john hopkins university and is currently working on her dissertation for some type of brain research at the university of maryland. very academically inclined that one.

GunnedDownAtrocity
03-29-2008, 10:43 AM
not a great pic of either suzi or my wiccan friend, but shes the one in black (go finger):

http://viewmorepics.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=viewImage&friendID=36195974&albumID=179077&imageID=3165201

Shaolin Wookie
03-29-2008, 10:48 AM
Believe me, this is hard for me to say....but:

If a chick, no matter how hot she is, invites you over to her place, and she pulls out her "crystals" to converse with the spiritual dragon goddess of the invisible moon, she loses a minimum 5 hotness points in penalty.

If she was an 8 or so (10 being reserved only for about 10 women on the face of the earth), she suddenly becomes a 3. So, finger at your own peril.

BoulderDawg
03-29-2008, 12:43 PM
I got that beat.

This lady (no more than a 5):D ask me over to her place. When I'm over there she ask me to join in her in a pray ritual so she grabs some pray beads and starts chanting.....:eek: She soared down to about a .75 in a bit hurry....I was looking for the door.

I would have welcomed the tarot cards or the crystals!

Shaolin Wookie
03-29-2008, 01:04 PM
Okay, so let's say you have a Level 3 Bagger who uses her HOODOO to invoke the Superior Mother of Supreme Hotness and manages to actually pull it off and put on the guise of a Level 10 hottie....she only gets 4 points credit, because it's temporary and it's magic. She's not really hot. She's just really hot for now.

SanHeChuan
03-29-2008, 02:34 PM
She's using voodoo to put the juju on her hoohoo? :eek:

That's just sick man!

When speaking of witches lets not forget the trials of Conan. He thought she was a grade A hottie, but midway through, she turned real ugly. That's why I don't go near the wiccan's, you never know what your going to get.

Shaolin Wookie
03-30-2008, 05:49 AM
That's true. Which also brings up a valid point:

Sexual prowess is really overrated. It's not about quality, it's about quantity--as in, how many can I get in before her HOODOO wears off, or the beer goggles fairy takes my magic hottie glasses. All that foreplay and feely stuff that girls love is really only their dirty trick of trying to fool you into making sweet love to them so they can undo their HOODOO mid-love-session and say: "Surprise!" By then it's too late, and you have to do the dirty deed (without a paper bag at hand, because you came unprepared), marry her, and live in misery for eternity (and she'll never let you get paper bags at the grocery store...it's plastic for life, and her ugly mug).

I say: command and conquer, and then move on to the next territory, the land of milk and honies.

And I say unto thee, quoth MK 3:16:

Much hath been said concerning the virtues of the crushing of one's enemies, and this is just. Eke much hath been praised concerning the joy of seeing one's enemies driven before thee. But yea, I say unto thee, there is no joy greater in God's eyes than hearing the sweet psalmody of the lamentations of the women. Amen.

Becca
04-01-2008, 08:17 AM
Why eviscerate Harry Potter? It's not culturally exclusive, religious, or political--it's about imagination...

You know, one thing I've noticed about book bashers: they are either failed writters POed because someone made it big writting something that was not over deep or profound. Or they are religious nuts. I don't care what the religious nuts think; let them say what they want. But they most certainly care what you think. Either you believe in everything they do or youBURN IN HE LL!!!!:p

sanjuro_ronin
04-01-2008, 08:43 AM
Wiccan chicks are HOT!:cool:

Perhaps they are:

Black Jack II
04-01-2008, 09:46 AM
Perhaps they are:

Dude, that was not a wiccan chick. Down below is more the fantasy verison of what they look like:D


http://www.industrialgothic.com/

Lucas
04-01-2008, 10:14 AM
Correction, GOTHS are hot. Sometimes.

Wiccans can vary drastically.

David Jamieson
04-01-2008, 10:40 AM
She's using voodoo to put the juju on her hoohoo? :eek:

That's just sick man!

When speaking of witches lets not forget the trials of Conan. He thought she was a grade A hottie, but midway through, she turned real ugly. That's why I don't go near the wiccan's, you never know what your going to get.

actually, in the conan tale, that part was to outline the sexaulity of a barbarian.

IE: desire creates what you want to see, but after you have fulfilled your desire, you see what is actually there. Conclusion: barbarians don't cuddle after sex.

Lucas
04-01-2008, 10:49 AM
actually, in the conan tale, that part was to outline the sexaulity of a barbarian.

IE: desire creates what you want to see, but after you have fulfilled your desire, you see what is actually there. Conclusion: barbarians don't cuddle after sex.

If you are talking about the scene in Conan the Barbarian. the motion picture. Remember, as she starts to turn into a demon, he realizes this. BUT, if you pay attention, he FINISHES before throwing her in the fire.

THAT my friends is Barbarian love.

GeneChing
07-11-2011, 11:24 AM
I know, I know, this is silly, but bear with me on this. More to come. ;)

Potter Chan - Hogwart's Action Hero (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oLrUBOx55BI)

enoajnin
07-11-2011, 11:29 AM
That's a Potter film I want to see.

Becca
07-11-2011, 01:29 PM
Now that's what I call a wizard's duel! :D

GeneChing
07-15-2011, 11:24 AM
Couldn't let Harry pass by without riding his robe-tails a little. Check out my latest e-zine article: HARRY POTTER and the Chinese Porcelain Doll (http://ezine.kungfumagazine.com/ezine/article.php?article=978)

JamesC
07-15-2011, 12:01 PM
Can't wait to see it. I'm taking the wife on Sunday to watch it. My wife and I grew up with these books and movies. I was only 15 when the first one came out. My wife was only 13. Kinda cool.

Brule
07-15-2011, 12:32 PM
Finally, it's over, sheesh.

No_Know
07-17-2011, 07:03 AM
You've gotta love this guy!
He's just making friends left and right. Not to mention making sense :D

He is my favorite..umm...comedian :D
Move over, George Carlin!



http://www.lifesite.net/ldn/2005/jul/05071301.html

How confused are the confused now, is the question to ask... :cool:

The Pope quote mentions a statement based on a mention of the "Harry Potter" books corrupting the hearts of the young preventing them from developing a properly ordered sense of good and evil, thus harming their relationship with God while that relationship is still in its infancy...that subtle seductions in the soul that act unnoticed and by this deeply distort Christianity in the soul. Before it can grow properly.

A book or set of books or certain books corrupting a child's soul? Books are on shelves, tables, in bags and lay-about or are strewn-about this would not corrupt. Except as peer pressure and the dulling sensitivity to a thing experienced and experienced. At most the outside of the book could affect a mind. But to affect the Heart a think must first be presented to the Brain. Upon such introduction Ideas might come about or there might be a Thought. At this point, some might be taken to Heart.

As for the arrangement of the collection of words within the book's cover, back and spine...Corruption is possible only where a deviation is perceived from what is already established.

As to good and evil, these are determined by stories. Stories we believe to be real in some sense. Stories we accept with nothing passed that we are told them and have an understanding of what we are to get from them--what is to be our socially acceptable. Stories of actual accounts. Stories of made-up accounts. From all these one might gain a sense of good and evil, at least in part, as directed by the story teller's guidance via the medium in use.

What plays is the characters and their relationships and their interactions.

For Good and Evil (Note: Ernie Moore Jr. comprehends that Good relates with God and Evil relates with the Devil thence at least one or the other of these are contrived--God~ is the basic Swedish writing for good. And Devil seems a kin to French writing using d' for of- in this case, of evil...That's the Devil means-ish that that's of Evil.EndNote:)the reason for this device--a tool used to instruct/condition/inform/instill/induce... would be to make a point or make an establishment--this is a correct way, this is a bad way. With such goals the architect constructs a diagram. With an agenda in mid one constructs a favored outcome by eliciting superiority through at least meekness/weakness/Failure or Loss and then Victory. Victory needs adversity or trouble or an adversary...Now with a difficulty the reader/listner has sympathy for the character who first loses or perhaps we are led to have a preferred character and with that we taint All ongoings to favor our favorite. This mechanic in essence is a design that establishes Good and Evil.

Technically a book cannot corrupt the soul of children

Developing a proper sense of good and evil to determine the health of one's relationship with God?It is mentioned that good and evil are determined to have a good relationship with God. But it is not mentioned in what way--I think the author of this (relevantly) thinks that people who do good have a good relationship with God. I would point out that treatment to the lowliest socially accepted Human beings is to be counted as one's treatment of Jesus the Christ.
Sinnerers do evil or are considered bad people, however God is said to Love sinners so wether children be good bad or corrupting in either direction God's relationship with them would be ongoing and is Love.

Children's relationship with God cannot be corrupted. Their blind/forced obedience of governance of restrictions and dictates accepted as signs and or or compliances towards a relationship with God might be something corrupted, but not Ever their relationship with God. How they relate to, but not ever their Relationship with God.

Relationshp with God in its infancy? Ggod is understanding and the story of the prodigal son and other mentions indicat acceptance and forgiveness indicating that a relationship with God is not necessarily nor required nor need be a steady consistant onesided way of being. When one has a relationship with God it merely absolutely Is. Infancy suggests development with progression towards an end (result). There are developments. And a relationship with God might be a process. But infants mature, and pass maturity. With God has a freshness of Moment or some-such...no end (type-of-thing).

Christianity is not in the soul it is in the Heart. A soul might be Christian, thereby not containing Christianity but being, of Christian (and the loss of Christianity with the loss of each soul?). While a person might be of a different religion from another or having a certain belief if Christianity were a soul thing, then all Humans being considered to have a soul and thereby have Christianity.

If all Humans do not have Christianity in the soul Then Christianity is an introduced thing, not an initially inherant (thing).

If you would say Christianity is in the soul, there were people with souls before Jesus Christ you would have to say their souls had christianity to. Unless souls with Christianity only happened after Jesus Christ (birth, death or in-between) in which case. Every Human even those not of the Christian religion have Christianity in their soul. If it must gro it can be small within us and so Christians grow it through study of teachings. But that littl bit of Christianity should be addressed when facing Non practicing Christians. Know that you destry Christianity or diminish it or it deminishes with the death of any.

There is Christianity. There is being Christian. And there is Church.

One can be Christian without being "a" Christian--of the Christian religion or "practicing/active/participating" Christian.

Christianity is a lable, stereotypically marking though not always correctly identifying.

Church is a body claiming to interpret. Not the word of God but Th words in a book, of varied sources. Bible is other language for B o o k! It Is NOt the Word of God[My Comprehension]. Jesus Christ would be the Word of God . Through the device of Jesus Christ God conveys God.

By the way for the cliquists, elitists, claimers, posers, wanna-bes, people who finally feel a sense of belonging and with that appreciation/obligation to the lable Christianity or Christianity lable off-shoots /divisions Roman catholic/Catholic/Protestant/Evangelical...

When you are down on some one for being poor or dirty Jesus came from humble living and blue-collar social circles. Jesus did wihout luxuries and birds of-a-feather look at his associates.

If you are standing behind Jesus Christ and not to push him over a ledge or something you can't hate Hebrew/Jewish/Yiddish...Because you are following a Jewish person. I might go so far as to think a person with Jewish upbringing and teachings, though excepting all the Ritual Jewish Practices of that Church.

Religion, God, Church, Jesus...if you are thinking of all of these as the same as eachother or some such, you might have some more thinking that could be doe on that.

If you beatup or cease lif in a person labled ****sexual and think you are cleaning...doing good... God loves All. You hurt/damaged/killed/cussed one of God's preferred. and if you Ever forget, miss a step, don't notice something, get that God supposedly sees you both equally because God sees with Love.

God reportedly has gotten angry and been other Human ways. But in this are we all like God or in God's like ness that we emote/feel/act/react there Are learned ways of being be calm, be patient the attitudes of being... but we get to those by living through it to that level Not by being handed a belt and a certificate and being told we are now a master of ourselves and can head our own school.

But we are the Master. And the Master is the Student. We learn ourselves. And by that Understand others.

God is the fourth pronoun in English. Of one with at least seventy two names and one secret name.

A Baptist person came to me and invited me to Church and a something orother in/with Jesus Christ. I asked what about Alah? Who is Alah? (Note:He'd just said inGod's name\I asked What is God's name?/ He said."God."\ What about Alah?/He's some dead guy who died (a thousand years ago)\\

If there is only one god, God. And there are multiple religions with aGod that is the only God. If you would not kill someone of your own practiced/followed religionwho believes/follows that God, Please consider doing other than intentionally harming others who follow- believe in one god, whether that god is labled God, Alah, Yaweh, Jahova...

Perhaps you've been called multiple/many names by different people theiy might not have met each other but they are all talking about the one you. (Kind-of-sort-of).

No_Know

GeneChing
07-18-2011, 10:40 AM
July 18, 2011 11:58 AM
Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows: Part 2" broke box office records in its opening weekend (http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-504943_162-20080354-10391715.html)

(CBS/What's Trending) - "Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows: Part II" opened to $169.3 million domestically and $307 million internationally, which gave the movie the new opening-weekend record both at home and abroad. The official "Harry Potter" Facebook page added 542,996 new likes from Friday to Sunday for a total of 29,585,455. "Deathly Hallows: Part II" tallied an impressive 254,516 tweets. Now back to our regularly scheduled flame wars...

sanjuro_ronin
07-18-2011, 10:40 AM
Now back to our regularly scheduled flame wars...

Flaming and Harry Potter in the same post, how appropriate !

Taixuquan99
07-18-2011, 01:08 PM
I am looking forward to seeing it. I have to say, I cannot think of another work that has a similar character to what Snape turns out to be, especially treated sympathetically only after the end.

GeneChing
07-18-2011, 01:41 PM
China delays Harry Potter release in favour of Communist party epic (http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/jul/18/china-harry-potter-communist-epic)

Concluding instalment in Hogwarts franchise postponed to make way for Beginning of the Great Revival: The Founding of a Party

Jonathan Watts in Beijing
guardian.co.uk, Monday 18 July 2011 20.00 BST


The wizard Harry Potter is being forced to make his farewell as a pirate in Beijing because China is holding back the official version of the concluding episode in the Hogwarts franchise in favour of an epic celebrating the 90-year-old Communist party.

Counterfeit DVD hawkers are selling poor-quality copies of the Deathly Hallows 2 in the capital days after its release in foreign markets.

The original will not be screened for a fortnight, at least partly due to the priority put on the big-budget political epic Beginning of the Great Revival: The Founding of a Party, which brings together more than 150 Chinese stars, including Hollywood icon Chow Yun-fat, in a two-hour tale of the Communist party's roots.

With its depiction of the romances and idealism of a young Mao, the story aims to attract a new audience to the party, which marked its 90th anniversary on 1 July.

With enormous political prestige at stake, China's film authorities have gone out of their way to ensure success for the movie, which premiered last month. The biggest potential foreign rivals have reportedly been delayed to allow a clearer run at the box office. Deathly Hallows will be released on 4 August; Transformers: Dark of the Moon on Thursday , three weeks after its release in the US. To protect the domestic film industry, only 20 foreign films are approved for release in China each year. Film industry observers say it is customary for the authorities to give preferential treatment to Chinese revolutionary and historical films.

"This practice is long-standing. Unlike the US, films are not treated just as consumer products in China. More importance is given to their role in shaping opinion and educating the public," said Li Hongyu, a film journalist for the South Weekend newspaper. "But the situation is better than it was 10 years ago. At least the Communist party no longer requires its members to go to the cinema for certain movies."

Harry Potter fans have joked that their best option was to help the Communist party achieve its goal – purportedly 800 million yuan (Ł77.5m) – ahead of time.

"The fans of Transformers and Harry Potter should join forces and encourage their dads, mums, uncles, aunts, grandfathers, grandmothers, etc to see The Beginning of the Great Revival. Then we won't wait until August," blogged Gudushizhe88 on the Baidu Tieba web forum.

The official Xinhua news agency says the historical extravaganza earned $46m during its first three weeks – not far from the record pace the authorities had aimed for.

Critics insist this is due to block-ticket buying by state-run firms and local governments, such as the northern city of Changchun, which reportedly bought tickets for 100,000 party members. The true figures may never be known. Popular websites have been ordered to disable their ratings and comments sections. Some netizens have posted photographs of doctored tickets for different films – such as Kung Fu Panda 2, Fast Five and the latest Pirates of the Caribbean – that were sold in the name of "Great Revival" in an apparent attempt to manipulate audience numbers. China Film Group, which produced the movie, denied that cinemas had been pressured to bump up the box office numbers.

Even if official sleight of hand conjures up impressive box office figures for the communist epic, the marketing magic of Harry Potter could yet prevail – at least on the black market.

"Harry Potter brand new. Good copies. Just 10 yuan," said an illegal hawker outside Beijing's Silk Market as he pulled out a large bundle of pirated movies, including the latest Pirates of the Caribbean, Cars 2 and The Mechanic. Great Revival was not among them.The doctored tickets is hysterical. That's the Chinese Porcelain Doll (http://ezine.kungfumagazine.com/ezine/article.php?article=978) for ya.

Taixuquan99
07-18-2011, 01:49 PM
I've been reading the first book in Chinese, not far enough along to determine whether it's one of the fake versions yet.

SimonM
07-19-2011, 07:31 PM
It's very rare that a movie manages to improve on a book.

This was one of those times.

The funny thing is that, as an author, I could observe all the ways that the movie played with pace and action to provoke very specific emotional responses from the audience.

And, even seeing behind the magician's curtain, I still couldn't help but be affected a little bit.

Well worth watching.

doug maverick
05-21-2012, 12:49 PM
this is a harry potter, fan made web series, done by a fellow filmmaker here in new york, the series has some really nice production value, check the article and the trailer.

http://mashable.com/2012/05/20/harry-potter-web-series/

GeneChing
05-21-2012, 02:21 PM
I figured this thread could use a little ttt as its box office record was just dethroned by the Avengers (http://www.kungfumagazine.com/ezine/article.php?article=1043).

I now confess that my review on HP 7.2 was just a way to get my kid into the screener. It made my kid was the coolest student in class for a whole week. :cool:

BTW, here's a photo of me when I studied at Hogwarts for a spell ;). I trained there right after Shaolin and Wudang.
http://sphotos.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/298811_2111579190910_1288554720_31774492_220288477 _n.jpg

Hebrew Hammer
05-21-2012, 04:32 PM
Gratuitous self promotion Gene! Did they have Shaolin wizards??? I know there were Taoist ones....

GeneChing
05-02-2014, 11:02 AM
Return of HARRY POTTER and the Chinese Porcelain Doll (http://www.kungfumagazine.com/ezine/article.php?article=978) :cool:


The internet is freaking out about this Chinese university that looks like Hogwarts (http://shanghaiist.com/2014/05/02/hebei-hogwarts-school.php)

http://shanghaiist.com/attachments/katienelson/hebei-hogwarts4.jpg

Pictures of a new university being built in Hebei have been making rounds on the web after online users pointed out that the castle-esque buildings bear more than a passing resemblance to Hogwarts (the school in Harry Potter where wizards and witches go to learn magic, tricks).

http://shanghaiist.com/attachments/katienelson/hebei-hogwarts2.jpg

Weibo user @Shijiazhuangweiba posted these photos of Hebei Academy of Fine Arts, located in Xinle, and they've been circulating among fans across the microblog. Even the UK's Daily Mail agrees that the university, what with its clock tower and magical-looking spires, takes on quite a likeness to Harry P's ol' stomping grounds (actually Alnwick Castle in Northumberland with some digital enhancement). Designers say that the university has been modeled on the architecture of castles from medieval Europe.

http://shanghaiist.com/attachments/katienelson/hebei-hogwarts.jpg

The university will reportedly be open for students later this year, at which point we have coincidentally decided to resume our studies...of fine arts.

http://shanghaiist.com/attachments/katienelson/hebei-hogwarts3.jpg

GeneChing
08-21-2015, 09:16 AM
Honestly when I did my review HARRY POTTER and the Chinese Porcelain Doll (http://www.kungfumagazine.com/ezine/article.php?article=978), I just did it to get into the screener. Biggest reach I've had to make to get it KungFuMagazine.com appropriate.


They are all Melons: Epic subtitle fails might make Chinese Harry Potter DVD better than the original (http://shanghaiist.com/2015/08/16/hally_porter.php)

http://shanghaiist.com/attachments/alexlinder/hally_potter1.jpg

Even on the silver screen, English translations for Chinese releases can be a bit dodgy. But we're not sure if we've ever seen subtitles fail so epically as the ones from a recent Chinese-dubbed edition of Harry Potter.

It's not certain if these hilarious screencaps were taken from an official release or a bootleg DVD (we sure hope so), but either way it's pure magic. It's been a while since we've seen Harry Potter, but let's try to set up the story for those unfamiliar:

The film begins with a young wizard, the eponymous Hally Porter, who must escape from the clutches of his Melon uncle along with two pigeons.

Hally finds his way to the Hogawalz School of Wizardly, where he befriends a red-haired wizard name Rond after inspecting his magic stick. When the bratty Draco Malfoy tries to bully Hally, Ron sticks up for his friend and tells the bully to eat crickets. Malfoy responds by calling everyone dirty Melons.

Later in the film, Harry must confront the evil wizard Fodi and get the gold voice, all while trying not to get fired.

Enjoy, Melons!

http://shanghaiist.com/attachments/alexlinder/hally_potter1b.jpg
http://shanghaiist.com/attachments/alexlinder/hally_potter1c.jpg
http://shanghaiist.com/attachments/alexlinder/hally_potter1d.jpg
http://shanghaiist.com/attachments/alexlinder/hally_potter1f.jpg

http://shanghaiist.com/attachments/alexlinder/hally_potter10.jpg
http://shanghaiist.com/attachments/alexlinder/hally_potter1e.jpg
http://shanghaiist.com/attachments/alexlinder/hally_potter8.jpg
http://shanghaiist.com/attachments/alexlinder/hally_potter2.jpg
http://shanghaiist.com/attachments/alexlinder/hally_potter7.jpg

brb. Gotta figure out how to get our hands on this cinematic masterpiece!
Contact the author of this article or email tips@shanghaiist.com with further questions, comments or tips.
By Alex Linder in News on Aug 16, 2015 5:00 PM

There are a bunch more screen grabs if you follow the link to the original article.

GeneChing
12-15-2015, 10:44 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wj1devH5JP4

GeneChing
10-21-2016, 09:11 AM
How magical. ;)


‘Doctor Strange,’ ‘Fantastic Beasts’ Score China Releases (http://variety.com/2016/film/news/doctor-strange-fantastic-beasts-china-release-dates-1201894351/)
Senior Film and Media Reporter
Brent Lang @BrentALang

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COURTESY OF DISNEY
OCTOBER 19, 2016 | 03:06PM PT

“Fantastic Beasts and Where to Find Them” and “Doctor Strange” will both be allowed to screen in China, sources tell Variety.

Both films appear likely to debut at roughly the same time that they bow in the United States. “Doctor Strange,” an adaptation of the popular comic book about a former surgeon who becomes a sorcerer, is the first out of the gate, and will hit the Middle Kingdom on Nov. 4.

“Fantastic Beasts'” date hasn’t officially been confirmed and could shift, but it appears that the “Harry Potter” spinoff will debut on Nov. 18.

China is the world’s second-largest film market, and can add tens of millions of dollars to a film’s gross. Previous Marvel releases such as “Iron Man 3” and “The Avengers: Age of Ultron” did more than $100 million in the People’s Republic. The “Harry Potter” franchise hasn’t been as successful, with the most recent film in the series making a little more than $60 million in the country. However, that film hit theaters five years ago, and China’s box office has continued to grow exponentially since that time.

China maintains a tight quota on the number of foreign productions it allows to screen in the country, limiting it to 34 non-Chinese films annually. It appears that the remaining slots are going fast. Just this week, “Trolls” scored a release date. “Inferno,” a thriller with Tom Hanks, and “Billy Lynn’s Long Halftime Walk,” Ang Lee’s war drama, will also get screened in China.

Benedict Cumberbatch stars in “Doctor Strange,” along with Tilda Swinton and Rachel McAdams. “Fantastic Beasts” is set in the world of Hogwarts, though it focuses on new characters. Eddie Redmayne stars, with David Yates, who directed several previous “Potter” adventures, sliding behind the camera.

Spokespeople for Disney, the studio behind “Doctor Strange,” and Warner Bros., the maker of “Fantastic Beasts,” declined to comment.

GeneChing
01-10-2018, 07:51 AM
This is rather dated but an echo of it popped up on my newsfeed randomly and so I chased down the source. This is the earliest I found.


Yoga is the work of the devil, says Vatican's chief exorcist (and he doesn't like Harry Potter much either) (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2066289/Yoga-work-devil-says-Vaticans-chief-exorcist-doesnt-like-Harry-Potter-either.html)
And you'll never guess what his favourite film is...
By Nick Pisa for MailOnline
UPDATED: 12:50 EST, 25 November 2011

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Outspoken: Don Gabriele Amorth, the Chief Exorcist for the Vatican for the past 25 years, spoke of his dislikes at a fringe event of the Umbria Film Festival

Father Gabriel Amorth has carried out more than 70,000 exorcisms in his capacity as Chief Exorcist at the Vatican.

The 85-year-old can boast 25 years in the post after being appointed by the late Pope John Paul II.

At a conference today, he surprised the delegates by revealing some of his greatest dislikes - yoga and Harry Potter.

Father Amorth, a colourful and often outspoken personality, said:'Practising yoga brings evil as does reading Harry Potter. They may both seem innocuous but they both deal with magic and that leads to evil.'

He added:'Yoga is the Devil's work. You thing you are doing it for stretching your mind and body but it leads to Hinduism. All these oriental religions are based on the false belief of reincarnation.'

Father Amorth, speaking on the subject of People And Religion at a fringe event at the Umbria Film Festival in Terni, spoke of his distaste for JK Rowling's young wizard.

He said:'People think it is an innocuous book for children but it's about magic and that leads to evil. In Harry Potter the Devil is at work in a cunning and crafty way, he is using his extraordinary powers of magic and evil.

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Twin terrors: Yoga turns devotees towards Hinduism, believes Father Amorth - while

'Satan is always hidden and the thing he desires more than anything is for people to believe he does not exist. He studies each and everyone of us and our tendencies towards good and evil and then he tempts us.

'My advice to young people would be to watch out for nightclubs because the path is always the same: alcohol, sex, drugs and Satanic sects.'

It is not the first time that Father Amorth has raised eyebrows with his forthright views - last year he said that the ongoing child sex scandals rocking the Catholic Church were evidence that 'the Devil was at work in the Vatican.'


'Satan studies each and everyone of us and our tendencies towards good and evil and then he tempts us'

While in 2006, Father Amorth, who was ordained a priest in 1954, gave an interview to Vatican Radio in which he said that Nazi leader Adolf Hitler and Russian dictator Josef Stalin were both possessed by the Devil.

According to secret Vatican documents recently released the then wartime Pope Pius XII attempted a 'long distance exorcism' of Hitler but it failed to have any effect.

It is also not the first time that Father Amorth, who is president of the International Association of Exorcists, has spoken out against Harry Potter saying in the past that it opens children's minds to dabbling with the occult and black magic.

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2011/11/25/article-0-00399A7400000258-310_468x328.jpg
Horrific: Satan at work in the 1973 film starring Linda Blair which is perhaps unsurprisingly Father Amorth's favourite film

Today Vanda Vanni, of the Italian Yoga Association, said:'A Satanic practice? Pardon the pun but that is an accusation that is neither in Heaven or on earth. Father Amorth's accusation is completely without foundation.

'It is an outrageous thing to say - yoga is not a religion but a spiritual discipline. It is about freedom and a search to find one's inner self. It does not touch religion and has nothing to do with Satanic sects nor does it encourage people to join them.

Giorgio Furlan, who runs the Yoga Academy in Rome, said`:'There are some paths of yoga which do lead towards Hinduism but other paths are more philosophical but their is no direct link with religion and certainly no link with Satanism.

'To say such things shows you have no idea of what you are talking about - yoga controls violent impulses of the nervous system and subconscious - to be honest with me it had the effect of bringing me closer to Christianity and in particular the Catholic Church which I had abandoned as a youngster.



THREAD: Yoga (http://www.kungfumagazine.com/forum/showthread.php?22367-Yoga)
THREAD: Exorcism (http://www.kungfumagazine.com/forum/showthread.php?69005-Exorcism)
THREAD: Harry Potter (http://www.kungfumagazine.com/forum/showthread.php?37539-Harry-Potter)

GeneChing
07-23-2018, 08:22 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=55cQvXBxLfo

In the wake of SDCC2018

GeneChing
11-26-2018, 09:44 AM
So is the zouwu like a flower vase (http://www.kungfumagazine.com/forum/showthread.php?66153-yellow-face-white-washing&p=1296375#post1296375) but in reverse?


NOVEMBER 23, 2018 1:04AM PT
‘Fantastic Beasts: The Crimes of Grindelwald’ Unlikely to Beat First Film in China (https://variety.com/2018/film/box-office/fantastic-beasts-the-crimes-of-grindelwald-china-box-office-1203035380/)
By BECKY DAVIS

https://pmcvariety.files.wordpress.com/2018/11/e59b9be5a4a7e4b8bbe6bc94e5928ce4b8ade59bbde9a38ee7 a59ee5a587e58aa8e789a9e6b5b7e68aa5e5b18fe9a38ee590 88e5bdb1-cropped.jpg?w=1000&h=563&crop=1
CREDIT: YINGHANGTIANXIA

As it heads into its second weekend, “Fantastic Beasts: The Crimes of Grindelwald” looks set to fall well short of the box-office performance of the franchise’s first installment in China, despite a number of tailor-made attempts to woo Chinese audiences.

As of mid-afternoon Friday, six days after its release, “Grindelwald” had brought in about $46.3 million in the world’s second-biggest movie market. It was beaten at the box office Wednesday and Thursday by “Venom” and comedic Chinese crime thriller “A Cool Fish,” then dropped even further, to fifth place, by 3 p.m. Friday, muscled aside by new releases “Ralph Breaks the Internet” and “Johnny English Strikes Again,” starring Rowan Atkinson, who has a huge following in China.

2016’s “Fantastic Beasts and Where to Find Them” took in $86 million in China – nearly double the sequel’s current take – at a time when the country had significantly fewer screens than it has now. On Wednesday and Thursday, “Grindelwald” had about 70,000 screenings per day.

J.K. Rowling’s Wizarding World remains extremely popular in the Middle Kingdom, where more people are likely to recognize Harry Potter than Prince Harry as an emissary of British culture. On Douban, a key Chinese user-review site, some 127,000 reviewers gave “Grindelwald“ a respectable aggregate 7.2 rating, but many complained that the story was too convoluted, a common criticism by Western reviewers as well.

“An installment that’s totally a setup for the next; it was way too dull, and the emotional scenes awkward and wooden,” said one of the most popular Douban reviews, which gave it just two stars. “The spectacle of the beasts was not as rich or interesting as it was in the first.”

Another three-star review cautioned: “The threshold for getting into it is very high – non-fans will be totally lost, and the plot is too messy. But the special effects were very good and the sets are very cool.”

The film hasn’t quite hit home with audiences despite the introduction of a Chinese “fantastic beast”: the zouwu, based on an obscure creature mentioned in the “Classic of Mountains and Seas,” an ancient Chinese text full of myths and mythical geography thought to date back to the 4th century B.C.

“This is how it is described in Chinese mythology: gigantic, elephant-sized cat, five-colored. It really does take a Newt Scamander to contain and look after that beast,” Rowling said in a promotional video for “Grindelwald.” She added: “There’s a Chinese bestiary that is utterly fascinating.”

The original classical text mentions the zouwu only briefly, stating: “In Lin Country, there are rare beasts. Big as a tiger, with a multi-colored body and a tail longer than its body, it is called the Zouwu, and riding it you can go a thousand li” – an ancient unit of measurement of about a third of a mile.

Chinese fans were charmed by Hollywood’s version of the fantastical cat, with some even saying they found it so cute that they dug out dusty copies of the classical text to find the reference. Many noted the irony of Hollywood picking up on a cultural element that even most Chinese people themselves didn’t know about, with one user on Weibo, China’s Twitter, writing: “Our ancestors left us many good things that we’ve never made full use of – a shame!”

“Grindelwald’s” marketing campaign also reached out to Chinese audiences with a gorgeous China-specific poster: a Chinese ink-brush painting of the zouwu and other creatures perched in a tree, done with the “gongbi” technique known for its highly precise strokes and realism. It was displayed at the film’s Beijing premiere, stretched out over a seven-paneled screen. The artist, Zhang Chun, had also created ink-brush portraits of six creatures for the first film, which went viral in China.

Some on Western fansites have chattered about the possibility that the zouwu could take the “Beasts” franchise to China. In the first film, a creature with the French name demiguise played a prominent role, and the next film was set in Paris.

Patrick Frater contributed to this report.

GeneChing
12-04-2018, 08:35 AM
I would've reviewed this for KungFuMagazine.com if I had known. I was invited to a screener but I couldn't think of a decent connection to Kung Fu (It was a reach to write ). I think I was busy when the screener was shown anyway. :o


https://cdn.i-scmp.com/sites/default/files/styles/landscape/public/d8/images/2018/11/22/076_chl_127822.jpg
The zouwu in “Fantastic Beasts: The Crimes of Grindelwald.”

CULTURE
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Gavin Huang
NOV 22, 2018

JK Rowling was inspired by Chinese mythology when she created one of the most dazzling creatures in the latest Fantastic Beasts movie.

The scene-stealing zouwu (驺吾), also called zouyu (驺虞) in some Chinese texts, is an elephant-sized beast with the head of a tiger and the tail of a pheasant.

The zouwu in “Fantastic Beasts: The Crimes of Grindelwald.” (https://cdn.i-scmp.com/sites/default/files/styles/1320w/public/d8/images/2018/11/22/076_chl_127822.jpg?itok=0tgLp59G)
The zouwu in “Fantastic Beasts: The Crimes of Grindelwald.” / Photo: Warner Bros

Newt Scamander, the zoologist wizard played by Eddie Redmayne, encounters the furry beast wreaking havoc on the streets of Paris.

“It travels 1,000 miles in a day,” he says, “and can go from one district of Paris to another in a single leap.”

Scamander manages to tame the zouwu into cat-like composure with a furry ball reminiscent of the orb used in Chinese dragon dances.

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Newt Scamander, played by Eddie Redmayne, tames the zouwu in “Fantastic Beasts: The Crimes of Grindelwald.” / Photo: Warner Bros

The creators of the Fantastic Beasts movie appear to have taken historical descriptions of the zouwu quite literally.

Their version has five shades of red and orange, a nod to the way it’s described in classical Chinese texts as having “five colors,” though the phrase is often used to describe anything that’s colorful or shiny, not necessarily with five colors.

The movie’s zouwu also bears resemblance to the Tai Hang fire dragon, a straw effigy adorned with incense sticks that’s paraded around Hong Kong once a year.

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The zouwu (left) and the Tai Hang fire dragon (right). / Photo: Warner Bros/Shutterstock
The zouwu is not the only reference to Chinese culture in the film.

Ezra Miller, who plays Credence Barebone, told the Global Times that he based his character’s movements off tai chi.

Symbol of benevolence
In Chinese mythology, the zouwu first appears in the Classic of Mountains and Seas, a compendium of fictional creatures similar to Rowling’s Fantastic Beasts and Where to Find Them.

The exact authors and time of writing remain unknown, though extant copies of the text date back to the Han Dynasty, which began around 200 BC.

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A Ming Dynasty woodcut depicting the zouwu. / Photo: Wellcome Library

In later texts, the zouwu is described as a creature that only appears during the reign of benevolent rulers. A Ming Dynasty emperor supposedly received one from a relative in Henan.

Scholars now believe the gift might have been less mythological, and really a giant panda.

Fantastic Beasts: The Crimes of Grindelwald made nearly $13 million on its opening day in China, a record for a Harry Potter film in the country.

Eddie Redmayne poses in front of a zouwu painting during a promotional event in Beijing for “Fantastic Beasts: The Crimes of Grindelwald.” (https://cdn.i-scmp.com/sites/default/files/styles/1320w/public/d8/images/2018/11/22/film-fantasticbeasts_china_tpe21.jpg?itok=KMnc85ls)
Eddie Redmayne poses in front of a zouwu painting during a promotional event in Beijing for “Fantastic Beasts: The Crimes of Grindelwald.” / Photo: Reuters

Production companies have been keen on developing films with the Chinese market in mind, infusing elements of Chinese culture wherever they can.

The zouwu didn’t exist in Rowling’s original book of fantastic beasts, but was specifically created for the film.

Gavin Huang
Gavin Huang is an editor at Goldthread. He was previously an editor at the Korea JoongAng Daily, the partner paper of The New York Times in Seoul, South Korea.

GeneChing
10-15-2019, 08:13 AM
Wizarding World and Kung Fu Panda land coming to Universal’s future Beijing theme park (https://www.polygon.com/2019/10/14/20914385/universal-unveils-beijing-resort-wizarding-world-transformers-minions)
Kung-Fu Panda Land of Awesomess > Wizarding World
By Petrana Radulovic@Pet_rana Oct 14, 2019, 4:30pm EDT

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The Wizarding World of Harry Potter will soon be coming to China. On Monday, Universal revealed that its planned Beijing resort will include seven themed lands from across all Universal properties. In addition to the popular Harry Potter land, Beijing will also be the home of Kung Fu Panda Land of Awesomeness, Transformers: Metrobase, Minion Land, Jurassic World Isla Nublar, Hollywood Boulevard, and WaterWorld.

The Kung Fu Panda land will be the first Kung Fu Panda-themed land. The entirely indoor experience is designed to transport visitors to “legendary China.” Also unique to Universal Beijing Resort will be the Transformers: Metrobase land, which will expand upon the character of Metrobase and turn visitors into “guest agents.”

The Jurassic World area, however, is new to Universal parks, though three existing Universal Studios locations have Jurassic Park-themed areas.

Wizarding World of Harry Potter will get the Hogsmeade area for its the Beijing location. Meanwhile, WaterWorld continues to get a lot of love in Universal Studios’ Asia locations, as does Minion Land. Both appear in Universal Studios Japan and Singapore, with WaterWorld also in Universal Studios Hollywood.

These attractions will make up the Universal Studios component of the Universal Beijing Resort. Another park is in development, though no details have been revealed. In addition to the park areas, Universal Beijing Resort will boast a City Walk entertainment, dining, and retail complex, six different hotels, and eventually a water park. The first phase of the Universal Beijing Resort is set to open in spring 2021.

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GeneChing
08-18-2020, 08:57 AM
China Box Office: 3D 'Harry Potter' Rerelease Wins the Weekend (https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/china-box-office-3d-harry-potter-rerelease-wins-the-weekend)
11:33 PM PDT 8/16/2020 by Abid Rahman

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'Harry Potter and the Sorcerer's Stone'

'Bad Boys For Life' bombs as previews for local war epic 'The Eight Hundred' point to a monster opening next weekend.
Harry Potter And The Sorcerer's Stone cast its spell over the box office in China this weekend, as Hollywood rereleases continue to entice people back to recently reopened cinemas.

The 3D, 4K rerelease of the first film in Warner Bros' multi-billion dollar franchise was able to magic up a stellar $13.4 million this weekend, according to local box office consultancy Artisan Gateway. The strong showing from The Sorcerer's Stone pushed the total box office to $21.9 million, the best single weekend performance since China's cinemas reopened.

Theaters in China are now into their fourth week of reopening after a COVID-19 enforced lockdown put in place back in January. Despite the restart, the country's exhibitors are still operating with limits on the number of screens and strict social distancing measures on top of having a public still wary about returning to the movies. The stronger week-to-week performance is in stark contrast to the year-on-year decline of 92.8 percent.

Puffed up partly by higher-priced IMAX admissions, on Saturday The Sorcerer's Stone scored the biggest single-day take since the restart and its total China gross, including all previous releases, now stands at $21.4 million according to Artisan Gateway. The China rerelease of the 2001 film, based on the first book of J.K. Rowling's phenomenally successful book series, is edging the movie closer to a $1 billion worldwide cume.

In second place was Sony's delayed release of Bad Boys For Life which made a modest $3.1 million. The post-COVID-19 theatrical landscape has notably lacked new Hollywood releases but the third film in the Bad Boys franchise didn't bring the crowds out, with the film hampered by its lukewarm critical reception including a 5.7/10 rating on the popular media review platform Douban.

Coming in third was local war epic The Eight Hundred which made an impressive $2 million in previews. Directed by Guan Hu and produced by Huayi Bros., The Eight Hundred is an $80 million tentpole based on a pivotal battle in 1937 during the Sino-Japanese war: the historic siege and defense of the Si Hang Warehouse in Shanghai where 400 fighters, an unlikely mix of soldiers, deserters and civilians became known as the “Eight Hundred Heroes," after holding out against waves of Japanese forces for four days and four nights.

The hotly anticipated war film was originally supposed to be released last summer but had its world premiere dramatically pulled from the Shanghai Film Festival and then its nationwide release canceled at the 11th hour by China's censors, although no official reason has ever been given.

With stellar reviews, an 8.1 rating on Douban and buoyed by nationalistic fervor, The Eight Hundred should breakout big next weekend when it goes on general release.

The rerelease of Christopher Nolan's Interstellar continued to rack up solid numbers, making another $1.3 million this weekend. Including its original run, the 2014 sci-fi epic, which stars Matthew McConaughey, Anne Hathaway and Jessica Chastain, has now made $123.9 million in China.

Interstellar's strong performance and Nolan's name recognition in China bodes well for the Middle Kingdom release of his high concept sci-fi movie Tenet, which has cleared the country's censors and is set to be released on Sept. 4. To drum up a little more Nolan-mania in China, Warner Bros. is also rereleasing Inception in the country on Aug. 28.

Rounding out the top five this weekend was the rerelease of Sam Quah's 2019 crime drama Sheep Without a Shepherd which made $1.1 million and now has a cume of $187.7 million.


ABID RAHMAN
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