1954 Tai Chi White Crane fight

[Phil Redmond]

Here's the link to the fight that took place in Macau in 1954 http://kwoon2.free.fr/NgvsChan.WMV

The old fighter is Ng(Wu) Gong Yee(Wu TC). He is the son of Ng(Wu) Gan Chuan. The guy doing a form demo in the beginning is Dong Ying Jei, a student of the famous Yang Ching Fu(Yang style large frame).

The White Crane style here is Tibetian White Crane, master Chen (the younger fighter) has boxing background also. Some one says that Chen might still be alive

[cha kuen]

sad. that those were supposelivley good masters, and they probalbywere good at their arts but oculdn't really fight.

[TaiChiBob]

Greetings..

sad. that those were supposelivley good masters, and they probalbywere good at their arts but oculdn't really fight.

.... if the "art" asserts self-defense and a practitioner can't fight, he is not good at his art.. that clip has little evidence of martial prowess.. it has surfaced again and again only to be ridiculed, it should be put to rest.. there is little discernable "style" in this fight, surely there are better examples of quality internal combat..

Be well....

[GroungJing]

I agree!

I can’t find no better example of form over function.

[Ren Blade]

They don't appear to be good fighters. They maybe able to do forms, but if they can't fight with their art, then I don't see them being good in their art. Doing good forms is just part of the training. To be able to fight completes an artist more.

[Doug]

Does this have anythign to do with the Wu Tai Chi Chuan master Wu Kung-yi and White Crane stylist Ch'en K'e-fu? There is a small-print, one-page article on it in Furyu: The Budo Journal of Classical Japanese Martial Arts and Culture, issue #7, Winter '96-'97, vol. 2.3, p. 72.

Doug M

[Walter Joyce]

No offense intended, but this is probably the 6th thread I have seen on this fight clip.
Its almost like you can tell what season it is by the reappeareance of this discussion.

[Doug]

Sorry. I only intended to post a source. I actually am unable to watch the video clip.

Doug M