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    Fake XingYi.

    I've seen some XingYi that looks pretty horrid.

    I saw one sifu's site, his forms looked entirely external, with the strike going after the step and everything.


    I mean isn't that incorrect? Or is it just another family?

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    Post the site and we'll see
    "I'm into murders and executions, mostly"

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    http://www.mew-hing.com/demonstration.html

    Note, if you go to this school please don't be offended, I just find it questionable. It could just be an entirely different family. I study the Hebei Hsing Yi system.

    ...actually, after reviewing these videos I'm not sure they're the ones. I'll keep looking.
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    I like his Pao Quan. The man's gotta be tougher than a coffin nail to expose his balls like that.

    ...actually, after reviewing these videos I'm not sure they're the ones. I'll keep looking.
    What did you think if his xingyi?
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    Why does he say "Pi KWAN", and San Ti 'SHE'?..that's the way it's written in the books, but pinyin doesn't sound as it's written.

    I think he posts here.
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    Ian Prescott

    The man in question is one Ian Prescott.

    He "teaches" Hsing-yi and Wing Chun and other things in Pennslyvania.

    I have showed his little vids to other people who have a better background in Hsing yi and they laughed when they saw him perform.

    One friend commented that he must have learned from videos and books as he has no concept of how to generate true power via whole body power.

    I agree with the earlier comment of his exposing his groin...maybe he likes that??? LOL...

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    Sorry, not impressed. I wouldn't call it "fake Hsing-I", just Hsing-I not done well, imo.

    Didn't see much power being generated by the body.

    Felipe - I'm surprised you could even hear the names! All the chinese music was drowning out what he was saying.
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    Originally posted by LeoV
    Felipe - I'm surprised you could even hear the names! All the chinese music was drowning out what he was saying.
    Maybe that was his intention all along...

    Hehehe...kidding

    -Actually, Buddy noted the Pi KWAN thing the first time these videos were posted.

    Well, he says:

    San Tishi: San Ti SHE
    Pi Quan: Pi Kwan
    Zuan Quan: Suan Kwan
    Beng Quan: Pung Kwan
    Heng Quan: Hung Kwan

    Obviously, he has read the terms but he hasn't actually heard them.

    As far as his Xingyi goes...sorry, I don't see any Xingyi Shenfa (Body method) there.
    Last edited by Felipe Bido; 08-23-2004 at 09:47 AM.
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    In his Pao, his shoulders stay square to the target. Not sure why anyone would do that on purpose. I guess his only power is coming from the step.

    However did everbody see the warning just before the videos in the web page?

    These clips are used to give you a general idea of what to
    expect in training. I advise everyone to NOT use these clips to learn
    from, as one or two points have been changed in them to prevent
    proper ging flow when practicing. This is done to protect the
    system and the school.
    Hmmm....maybe.

    Apostol. I would not call this guy 'horrible'. I have seen worse.
    So Apostol - post some good Xingyi you have seen, If you have seen any.

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    Well then I agree the secrets of Hsing-I will be kept hidden...

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    Hehehe---
    "I'm into murders and executions, mostly"

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    Ian and I PMed and he's a nice guy. He wanted to learn more about Xingyi. I think I'd probably remove the vid, were it me.

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    Heh, interesting. I'll do a video of me doing the fists as soon as I get my camera working.

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    You really gonna post yourself doing the fists? Not a bad idea. I'll bet you'll get plenty of good feedback. One thing a quick video can do, is show some obvious flaws or variances in technique that you can't see or someone else may have overlooked.

    We had a guy in our class that when we got to looking, he had a little 'hitch' in his shoulder where he lifted it off his structure slightly during one movement. Very slight, but he was completely unaware he was doing it.

    And of course, in my case, there are so many things to fix, it will take a long time to fix. A video would only scare newcomers away from this art if they saw me.

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    Haha...beware, my pounding fist is terrible.

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