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    Real Life application of Martial Arts to Police, Security, Etc work

    anything to relate from a real world application of martial arts as a self protection fighting art from LEO, Security, Mental Wards men, correctiosn officer or other reality based application... ??

    and how did such experience effect, adapt ur training methods etc that kinda thing

    thanks in advance~

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    I was on the Metropolitan Police Dept in Washington DC. I worked a ghetto area (isn't all DC?)

    I was able to apply a hip throw to a 90lb woman who tried to flee from me on foot...man she went flying through the air...it was great...then she tried to pull a knife on me, so I shot her dead....just kidding, I subdued her and cuffed her and took her knife away.
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    I have done security, body guarding and bounced for many years.

    I have been in many situations that MA has came in handy.

    I will say much of the fighting applications you learn cannot be used in these situations as you are more proned to subdue as green cloud said then to beat the person up or cause bodily harm. not as much fun, however a great story

    I was bouncing at the VIP lounge in NY the old grants building on the 2nd floor. I had to break up a major fight. When i tried to escort the one gentleman out the door and down the marble stairs he kept trying to fight me. I had him in a wrist joint lock and was applying a great amount of pressure to which he didnt realize being so drunk or drugged up. Then after several warnings and to defend myself or course I accidentally snapped his radius bone.

    When this happened he freaked out, lost his balance and fell down 35 marble stairs, rolled over 2 other guys and hit the door at the bottom with his head and shattered the glass

    I got sued and fired the next day.
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    Also when I was in the police academy the DT (defensive tactics) instructors had just finished a one-week training seminar with one of the Gracie's...so needless to say they were teaching all techniques that would end up on the ground...

    We were doing a live action drill and guess what...they couldn't get me down...they were not happy. But that's why we train isn't it...And PS their groundwork wasn;t that good either. I was able to ankle lock a guy who had 50 lbs on me...and I never trained with a Gracie...all Kung-Fu baby...
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    i forget the details. but most of my classmates have all gone into law enforcement. One of them was telling me how he had to use his choy lee fut on a plane with a guy he was transporting back to hong kong.

    My sihing actually liked this guy, and felt bad that he was going back to hong kong to do jail time. while they were in their seats the guy told my si-hing that he wasn't going back to hong kong no matter what, and if the plane starts he told my si-hing he was going to start fighting.

    they shook hands, and needless to say when the plane started this guy and my si-hing was going at it right there on the plane. My si-hing managed to get the upper hand and subdued the guy and off they went.

    Now my si-hing is teaching choy lee fut tactics to the san francisco bay area law enforcement agencies. still he says it sucks because they cannot use a good portion of our gung fu due to legalities.


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    I was a bouncer for 7 years.

    Won some.

    Made some mistakes.

    Learned some things.

    Probably the biggest was:

    "Sneak the fvcker, if you can"

    Toe to Toe street fights are stupid and hazardous to your health.
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    As a cop, grappling and subduing techniques are usually a lot more useful on the job than boxing/striking. And when you do have to strike someone, you need to be very mindful of how you do it. Officers tend to break their hands from throwing punches to some idiot's head. You also don't wanna cut your knuckles on the teeth of some dirty transient who has god knows what kind of diseases. Some D-TAC instructors advocate palm heel strikes over closed fist punching, tho I don't know if I agree with that. I just can't see a palm strike being as effective as a punch. But at the very least you do need to be careful about how you punch.

    On the job you always need to keep your gun side away from your enemy (last thing you need is for him to snatch it out of your holster). So when you fight somebody you don't only worry about fighting him, but also about protecting your weapon... which has a HUGE effect on how you fight.

    ALways be aware of your surroundings. This has not been stressed enough in any martial arts I've ever done outside of formal police training. If you get into it with some idiot in the middle of the street you also have to keep your eye on the road so that you don't get hit by a passing car. ANother good example would be responding to busy bars/clubs. Sometimes random fools are drunk enough to do something stupid just to show you how much they hate the police... even if they don't have anything to do with the reason you were called over there in the first place.

    Being aware of your surroundings also applies to being aware of your location. We had one case of an officer who went off into foot pursuit and ended up in a hellacious brawl by himself. In the middle of all that excitement the officer somehow lost track of his exact location. When he called for help over the radio he put out the wrong location. So his back up drove around desperately trying to find him while listening to him getting his ass kicked over the radio. This was before my time, but I can only imagine how frustrating it was for the responding officers. They could've been there to help him much sooner if he had known exactly where he was to begin with. Instead they had to speed all around the general area until they finally found him. Thankfully he made it out of that situation in one piece, but he was later medically retired as a result of his injuries.

    Anyway, there's my two cents.

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    Police Special Response Team demo


    Special response team of police put on astounding show of strength

    By Ngoc Thanh April 17, 2019 | 08:11 am GMT+7 They use ancient techniques to smash rocks on their body and prevent sharp objects from penetrating their body.



    The 45th anniversary of the mobile police force was recently celebrated by its officers with an incredible exhibition of qigong and other physical skills.

    Lying on broken glass when a rock on one’s abdomen is being smashed with sledgehammers is a feat that requires using qigong techniques to prevent penetration by the glass pieces not to speak of withstanding the blows.


    The head is a vulnerable part of the body. However, through rigorous training, an officer manages to withstand the blow of a sledgehammer to break bricks stacked on his head.


    An officer drops a knife on a colleague. It is is a dangerous exercise but useful in the force since officers sometimes come up against criminals with sharp pointed objects.


    Another test of strength where a officer uses his neck to bend and straighten an iron rod.


    An officer breaks wooden staffs with his body.


    An officer uses qigong techniques and weak pulses in his body called acupoints to twist an iron bar with his eye.
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    Continued from previous post


    An officer places an iron bar against his larynx and pushes a 4.2-ton van with it.


    Another uses his abdominal muscles to pull a van.


    This officer holds a sword against his neck while pulling a 12-seat, 4-ton vehicle.


    Using bare hand to break the bottom of a plastic bottle takes practice.


    An officer carries 80 kg with his teeth while standing barefoot on broken glass.
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    Have been in a fair share of street fights. In my personal experience kung fu techniques have been some of the most effective, along with a mix of grappling {Bjj/Judo type stuff]. I have studied many other arts but kung fu moves seem to be designed for real fights, in my experience at least.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wiz cool c View Post
    Have been in a fair share of street fights. In my personal experience kung fu techniques have been some of the most effective, along with a mix of grappling {Bjj/Judo type stuff]. I have studied many other arts but kung fu moves seem to be designed for real fights, in my experience at least.
    I would say i agree with this 100%. I can't count how many times my snake and crane techniques have saved me from an angry mob of thugs on the streets.

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    point sparring is a great way to train

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