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    Chinese names of Choy Lee Fut blocks

    Hey folks,

    since i am on a basic level when it comes to chinese language, i need help in labeling our choy lee fut blocks.

    The names i'm familiar with are the Kum, Kwan Kiu, pak sou (for blocks)

    but can i get some help on the others, like the over head block, circle block, outside of the forearm block, and what ever else you guys can think of.

    I know its been said here before, i just can't find those posts.



    thanks,

    hsk

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    I almost always get corrected on my Chinese terminology but I'll shoot a couple out there for ya:

    Che Sau - circling hand
    Pon Sau - clinging hand
    Jiu Gin Sau - mirror facing hand

    I used to think overhead block was gwa sau, but I have recently been corrected on the translation of "gwa"

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    I think it is more regularly pronounced "poon sau". We use "pon sau" too, I think it is because of Chan Tai San's dialect ( I'm not sure what it was, and I don't want to try and guess )

    Bong sau - "chicken wing" or inverted arm block
    Nahp sau - hooking hand block
    Baii Myuhn Jueng - door closing palms

    -DS

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    blocks

    Poon Kiu (Cantonese)
    Pon Kiu (ToiSanese) - Most CLF people use this pronouciation.

    These blocks mean to "Cling" - Kiu - refers to "Bridge"

    May Yan Jyu Geng Sau (Mirror Hand)

    Nahp Sau - translates to 'parrying hand'. "Nahp" per se, does not have a litteral translations, it describes an action of parrying/hooking. It's kind of like; explain the word 'chuck' as it refers to throwing a rock: into another language. It's not exactly throw...but the way you throw.

    Cheh Sau - Circling hand - straight arm slicing motion

    Pak Sau - Slapping hand

    amongst others.....

    Frank, call me tomorrow after 1:00, if you can, I'll get you the translations to whatever you need....
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    yeurng kiu - inside forearm blocking outward
    jaap kiu - outside forearm blocking inward

    of course there's Chuin La

    I don't know if Cheel Sao counts as a block - it's a double hand windshield wiper type of manuever that absorbs (many times, followed by a Dahn Na knife hand strike)

    I consider Lau Jeong a block - like a sweeping-passing type of block to the lower gate. Lau Jeong is known as palm strike to the groin, but I see a very similar motion to sweeping away lower body techniques (it sweeps the technique upward to the side)

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    Many "strikes" can be "blocks" and vice versa that its hard to categorize things so easily. These are some that I think are more defensive in nature.

    Gok An- Block down and out
    Kam Jeung- Cover Palm
    Chuin Kiuh-Piercing Bridge
    Cham Kiuh-Sinking Bridge
    Fu Hei-Swat the air (double outward block)
    Jaap Kiuh-Sideways closing bridge
    Yeung Kiuh-Mirror bridge
    Kwan Sau-Tie up hand
    Chi Sau- Outside hand
    Puhn Kiuh- Coiling bridge
    Pai Sau-Split Hand
    Gam Jin- Golden Scissors
    Jit-Intercept
    Bei-Block out

    Frank, did you ever get a copy of my translation of the LKH Siu Mui Fah?

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    thanks everyone.

    that really helps.

    I am putting together a Hung Sing training manuel for my student and future students. In fact once its finished i'd make it availabe to anyone interested in collecting Choy Lee Fut training stuff.

    If anyone is interested then let me know i will keep you in mind when its done.

    still, i would like to learn the chinese terms now that im a teacher, but before it was always just show me what you're talking about.

    Peace.

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    NAH, Fu Pow I never got that. How can i get that?

    HSK

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    What's your email again? I'll send it to you.

    FP

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    blocks

    who said bong sow (chicken wing)
    should go back to the wing chun forum

    although there is nothing wrong with WC it is just inferior to CLF :-)
    and not that CLF people dislike WC, just the people who practice it..

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    who said bong sow (chicken wing)
    should go back to the wing chun forum

    although there is nothing wrong with WC it is just inferior to CLF :-)
    and not that CLF people dislike WC, just the people who practice it..
    Excuse me? I am CLF. We use bong sau in our Ching Jong set. I've been CLF for a long time, never heard bong sau was not CLF.

    -DS

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    I would agree with him as I have never heard bong sow used in CLF and it generally is used with wing chun. We have a similar move we refer to as kwun sow but I have never heard bong sow used for CLF.

    That being said various lineages incorporate their own terminology and sometimes it can come from knowledge of other styles so if you have it that could explain it.

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    Agree. Lifting the elbow is considered bad ju-ju in CLF.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CLFLPstudent
    Excuse me? I am CLF. We use bong sau in our Ching Jong set. I've been CLF for a long time, never heard bong sau was not CLF.

    -DS
    I agree with David...Bong sau is in CLF, and if you don't have it - your system is incomplete
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