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    Protein

    Well...
    As I sat down to drink my 2nd glass of muscle milk for the day, I started to wonder what are the differences between types of protein, and what is everyone out there using?

    P.S....
    If you havent tried muscle milk... You're crazy. Its as good as a dessert.
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    Whey is the only way to go Soy will give you Boobs KC
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    Maybe my girlfriend needs some soy...
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    Whey is the way to go immediately post workout because of its rapid digestability.

    Muscle Milk is mostly caesin, which is not bad, but is not ideal for post work out.

    Caseins are great for drinking before bed or on off/recovery days.

    Protein is best absorbed post workout with high gi carbs (maltodextrin, dextrose, etc) following your workout, needless to say in liquid form. You want to avoid fats in your post workout shake (so that rules muscle milk out even further) as they are the easiest of the macronutrients to absorb and will slow down your muscle recovery.


    Muscle milk is a great product, but is not good for a post workout shake. Will it have negative consequences? Probably not, but you could be drinkin a whey protein shake (probably cheaper, yet less tasty) which would be the better alternative.

    Soy protein is estrogenic and not a complete protein.

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    "(so that rules muscle milk out even further)"

    But its sooo good....
    MMMM......
    This thread made me go drink a shake.

    I havent had a bad flavor yet....
    *drool*
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    I'm just saying it's not good for a post workout shake, for a mrp or a night time shake, go for it and enjoy.
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    NOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


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    What would you suggest for post workout?

    I generally dont do a shake right after my workouts because the heavy milk content makes me feel a little green.
    Usually after workouts its a bottle of water then a meaty starchy meal.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bodhitree View Post

    Soy protein is estrogenic and not a complete protein.

    could you explain that?
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    Not Complete= does not contain full spectrum BCAA'S and essentials.

    Estrogenic= chemical reactions in body causes production of estrogen (not enourmous amount, you won't grow man boobs unless your killing the soy protein).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Meat Shake View Post
    Maybe my girlfriend needs some soy...
    She told me she needs some pork!
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    Quote Originally Posted by bodhitree View Post
    Not Complete= does not contain full spectrum BCAA'S and essentials.
    True, but some fermented soy products do. Tofu does and is one of the easiest absorbed into the human body. If you have a blender you can make tofu shakes pretty easily to any flavour you like. Suits some people.

    Estrogenic= chemical reactions in body causes production of estrogen (not enourmous amount, you won't grow man boobs unless your killing the soy protein).
    It actually contains plant estrogen... this is only a problem in some cases: highly likely to include mass-produced American protein powders, and then hormone disrupters are far more worrying - they'll have you growing boobs and making you too unhealthy to enjoy them!

    If you're interested, this points to a good overview of soy processing:
    Here.

    Anyway, I don't do soy protein.

    After a workout you need something with dextrin and pectin (helps with the absorbtion of the protein somehow), and protein. I do milk + whey and casein based shakes, because my diet is generally lacking in fat and calcium, but if you don't like milk just mix the shake with water. Mixing it with drinking yoghurt also helps it to go down: yoghurt is easier on digestion than milk. For a 200 ml shake I get about 19-21 g of protein with milk and 16-18 with water. Plus I sometimes add an egg.

    I keep reading that milk based (whey/casein) proteins are good before bed. Forget why.
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    i generally do a whey+dextrose (1:2 i think) shake after training with just water.

    apparently casien (eg cottage cheese) is a good protein before bed as its slow-release, but after training whey is better as its faster absorbed. i think thats the general gist of it, excuse the psuedo science someone else can bring the real facts...

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