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    Quote Originally Posted by Sifu Darkfist View Post
    i am assuming he is a student of Gm HSU
    sorry but what means hsu?

    he s disciple of GM Chen Leping

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    Xiao,
    I beleive he was reffering to Adam Hsu when he said GM HSU but then again I could be mistaken.

    Adam is not a student of Leping and on the contrary very much older. He did however spend a little time studying under my shifu 's shifu...Master Wei Xiao Tung.
    Alot can be found about Adam Hsu on the internet and I suggest you purchase a copy of his book the sword polishers record a must read. God Bless
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    the famous beng bu video

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g3bLt...eature=related

    I don't know why people all talk about beng bu in seven star mantis, but maybe just a form that got promoted so much in books. Now here is a video of beng bu done by me. Just to share, enjoy!
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    I saw this vid earlier. Nicely done! Very similar to how I learned it, though it is missing a few moves at the end of the second road.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mooyingmantis View Post
    I saw this vid earlier. Nicely done! Very similar to how I learned it, though it is missing a few moves at the end of the second road.
    Thank you! It's not missing the movements, maybe just from different versions. I have saw many mantis books and all the masters do it differently too. I have done many and chose the one I like more which flows the best for me.

    This is seven star mantis. Just in case you thought it is CCK..
    Last edited by CYMac; 04-19-2011 at 03:37 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CYMac View Post
    Thank you! It's not missing the movements, maybe just from different versions. I have saw many mantis books and all the masters do it differently too. I have done many and chose the one I like more which flows the best for me.

    This is seven star mantis. Just in case you thought it is CCK..
    Yes, I misspoke. I just meant it was missing a few movements as I learned it.
    I have also seen MANY versions. Yours does look very smooth.
    Yes, I recognized it as Seven Star, probably stemming from Hong Kong. The version I learned was the Northern Praying Mantis (Wong Hon Fan) version.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mooyingmantis View Post
    Yes, I misspoke. I just meant it was missing a few movements as I learned it.
    I have also seen MANY versions. Yours does look very smooth.
    Yes, I recognized it as Seven Star, probably stemming from Hong Kong. The version I learned was the Northern Praying Mantis (Wong Hon Fan) version.
    Won Hon Fan is very good too as I see his mantis books are nicely postured. The next generation from him, Yuen Man Kai is still alive in hongkong but I don't like his style when I see him perform because it's way too flowery..

    I saw your website just now, interesting and cool stuff! Your videos are nice too!
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    Quote Originally Posted by CYMac View Post
    I saw your website just now, interesting and cool stuff! Your videos are nice too!
    Thank you!
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    A New Beng Bu

    Quote Originally Posted by CYMac View Post
    I don't know why people all talk about beng bu in seven star mantis, but maybe just a form that got promoted so much in books.
    People talk about beng bu because it is part of the original core of Mantis.
    This version is not from any family of Beng Bu I have seen.
    Could you tell us where it is from?


    Kevin

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tainan Mantis View Post
    People talk about beng bu because it is part of the original core of Mantis.
    This version is not from any family of Beng Bu I have seen.
    Could you tell us where it is from?

    Kevin
    how come? even the master above see it and feel familiar, it's seven star praying mantis. Where did you learn yours and do you have a video to show so that I can see what you mean?
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    we must always remember when doing kuen, to move the body as one.

    This is where you get the power generation, formless form and fluidity.
    I see many places adn movements where the arms are moving yet the feet are stationary, as wll as the shoulders moving but the hips are not, and to go deeper the external is moving but the internal is not.

    Concentrate on having the body in constant continuous motion all the time and you will enjoy your form much better. be well
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    Quote Originally Posted by CYMac View Post
    how come? even the master above see it and feel familiar, it's seven star praying mantis. Where did you learn yours and do you have a video to show so that I can see what you mean?
    For the record, I don't claim to be a "master", but thank you for the compliment.

    Yes, I would say your form looks like 99% of the Qixing Tanglangquan (HK) forms that I have seen performed. Though a few moves I am familiar with are missing and a couple are changed.

    The way you play the form is also similar to how I have seen it played by many different instructors. Other families of mantis emphasize greater coordination of the body/harmonies. Seven Star out of Hong Kong is often criticized for its more subtle approach. I watched your video again and compared it to videos I have of Al Cheung, Brendan Lai, my instructor and a few others on YouTube. It was comparable to each of those performances.

    Revealing who your instructor was/is shouldn't be a big deal though. Most of us on the forum are familiar with each other's background/instructors.
    Last edited by mooyingmantis; 04-21-2011 at 02:32 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mooyingmantis View Post
    I watched your video again and compared it to videos I have of Al Cheung, Brendan Lai, my instructor and a few others on YouTube. It was comparable to each of those performances.
    If you have the Brendan Lai Bung Bo video in mind, I possibly could say that the sequence is very roughly similar, but that's about it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by EarthDragon View Post
    to go deeper the external is moving but the internal is not.
    interesting; here is what I stated about his taiji form:
    "I find his movement to be rigid and lacking connection; he is "performing" instead of "living" the movement;"

    he, of course, did not agree w my assessment; hopefully your good advice will find it's way through his thick skull...

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    Quote Originally Posted by -N- View Post
    If you have the Brendan Lai Bung Bo video in mind, I possibly could say that the sequence is very roughly similar, but that's about it.
    Certainly Shifu Lai's speed and power are not present in his video.
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