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    Quote Originally Posted by SPJ View Post
    Iran crisis resolved only after Reagan came to power.

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    For people that did live thru the periods and reading about the stories on newspaper, books, radios, Tv like everyday.

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    The Iranians released the hostages when Carter left office,maybe it was the day after? Reagan hadn't anything to do with it they just did it as a final insult to Carter. It was sorta like the WMD of its day, everyone gave credit to Reagan and he didn't correct it, it gave way to the Iranians were scared of him and that was why they were released. I thought that too But they screwed up by releasing them while still having Iranian money in our banks I think they were buying military planes etc. and had paid for that too before the Shaw (sp?)was forced out.
    Many people still think Iraq had WMD and transferred them to Syria although Saddam couldn't get his millions out, remember the money stuffed into trees?, couldn't get his daughters out, couldn't get his sons out and couldn't get his stinkin butt out of the dirt hole but he was clever enough to get ALL the WMD out from under our noses?
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    The only way to free Tibet is to bomb the infrastructure, send in a 150,000 armed force and give them democracy. If that doesn't work we must stay the course until it does...ie gold fish hitting the glass with its nose over and over and over again.
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    Quote Originally Posted by firepalm View Post
    This is a tough issue & a tragic one but China did not invade another country & take it over as in Tibet. Tibet has been a part of China for over a thousand years, not only 50 years like Richard Gere, celebrity pawn, would have you believe. For a very short time in the early 1900s the Brits controlled Tibet and did many bad things to the Tibetan people. Tibetans have long been considered one of China's 56 Ethnic Minority groups. China is not an innocent in this by any means but what the media in the West is not showing is the violent actions being done by Tibetans to tourists, Chinese, Hui Muslim people, etc... One of the beauties of Youtube right now is the ability to get more info then just the propaganda filtered crap that goes out on CNN.

    True Tibetan History http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fruuxoDQpSc ; a great eye opening little radio interview with supportive pictures on Tibet & the Dalai Lama.

    CIA in Tibet http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tOhDBo6x2ZY Your US Gov't at work in Tibet

    The truth of free Tibet http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LtTmBrfujsA a very compelling video

    Free Tibet! The real truth! http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=L6XD5A7-Fqg

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SySbjQpzEII

    Riot in Tibet: True face of western media http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uSQnK5FcKas

    OPPRESSED MONKS IN TIBET http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ctrPH4ehR0

    In the very least it gives you something to think about. But then again maybe it's just another job for the US World Police F>>K YEH!
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    personally, I like president Carter,

    from being a peanut farmer to the white house.

    well I like farmers.

    even thou US prestige was marred by Iran revolution and hostage crisis.

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    Tibetan and Han chinese shared the same DNA or genetic makeup.

    the high grounds of himalaya are origins of both yellow river and yang tz river.

    the tibetan people on the high grounds doing migrating agriculture. han people on the mid and down streams of the 2 rivers doing stationary agriculture.

    the same rivers nurture 2 great cultures of 2 ethnic groups.

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    tibet is the middle of russian moslem republics, india (used to be british india) and china.

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    if not in the enclave of China, it would have been part of india or russia.

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    2 other examples

    1. poland between germany and russia.

    2. korea between china and japan.

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    it is only based on the theory of geopolitics.

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    Last edited by SPJ; 03-22-2008 at 07:30 PM.

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    Thumbs up

    http://www.cnn.com/2008/WORLD/asiapc...ons/index.html

    Taiwan has elected a new president.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PUaxrnNMS3k&NR=1

    a KMT theme song with 4 dialects.

    mandarin, ha ka, arborgine, taiwanese (amoy)

    we all come together and live peacefully together on this precious little land/island, no matter what ethnic backgrounds you are.

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    Last edited by SPJ; 03-22-2008 at 06:57 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shaolinlueb View Post
    how different is this from what we did to the indians? we committed genocide on them, whiped out/almost whiped out species of animals. if you cant support a country that does that, move to canada.
    Not to derail this thread, but the fact that Canadians call them "First Nations" instead of "Natives" or "Indians" makes the conquest of THEIR country by persons long dead somehow less severe than ours? You do realize that those who colonized Canada took territory by less-than-friendly means, right? It wasn't quite as severe, but then again, that's one of the advantages of trying to take over a sparsely-populated region to make it slightly more populated.
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    Funny thing, I keep seeing ethinic Han Chinese on various sites screaming that "Tibet is part of China!"

    But no Tibetans making that claim. Quite the contrary.

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    I guess Texas has always been part of Mexico. And to be honest I wouldn't mind at all if we gave it back.

    Anyway, I've had an opportunity to go to China and I simply don't want to. Let them give back Tobet and improve human rights and I'll consdier going.

    Olympics? I think the US should go but only participate in the events. They should boycott the opening and closing ceremonies.

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    Quote Originally Posted by unkokusai View Post
    Funny thing, I keep seeing ethinic Han Chinese on various sites screaming that "Tibet is part of China!"

    But no Tibetans making that claim. Quite the contrary.
    you tube vid sites are invaded by both camps.

    all the chinese or tibetan themes/vids music.

    check out all the comments.

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    Oh, I've heard all the arguments.

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    I'll bet they are just holding their breath waiting on YOU!

    Quote Originally Posted by BoulderDawg View Post

    Anyway, I've had an opportunity to go to China and I simply don't want to. Let them give back Tobet and improve human rights and I'll consdier going.


    That'll show 'em!

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    Quote Originally Posted by BoulderDawg View Post
    I guess Texas has always been part of Mexico. And to be honest I wouldn't mind at all if we gave it back.
    They would get California, Arizona, Nevada, Colorado, Utah, and New Mexico back before they ever got TEXAS.
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    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ge5SEPvRUtI&NR=1

    news.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x9QNK...eature=related

    a commentary vid.

    I agreed to some points but not all the points.

    it is totally no good to tell other countries what to do.

    if you are proposing other countries leave your home affair alone.

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    anyhoo.

    it was one of the most watched and commented.

    not to stir up a pot that is already boiling. (meaning not needed)

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    peace y'all.

    Last edited by SPJ; 03-23-2008 at 01:42 PM.

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    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gVPlT...eature=related

    Jet Li and his view.

    tsunami turned him to budhhism.

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