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Thread: Tiger Mothers and FOB Moms

  1. #61
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    Also, the writer has a pretty funny subtext going on about banging her into submission. Reclaiming her from the white man, I take it.

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    Cat Dad

    vs. Wolf Dad

    Tiger Mum or Cat Dad? Claws out over parenting styles
    By BBC Trending
    28 May 2015

    Poster image for Chinese TV show Tiger Mum Cat Dad

    Move over Tiger Mother - there's a new cat on the block.

    Perhaps you're familiar with the super-strict mum who pushes her kids to be the best at school, sport, and music - no matter what the cost. It's a parenting style made famous in 2011 by the Chinese-American author Amy Chua and her best-selling book "The Battle Hymn of the Tiger Mother". Well, there's another feline in the parenting world: Cat Dad.

    Cat Dad takes a more softly, softly approach to parenting - preferring to be emotionally sensitive, gentle and relaxed about rules and discipline, in the belief that it will make their offspring self-sufficient and independent. The term has been trending on the micro blogging site Sina Weibo because of a hit Chinese television programme, "Tiger Mom Cat Dad". The two lead characters are, as the title suggests, a fierce Tiger Mom and a chilled-out Cat Dad. Their styles collide as they try to raise their young daughter.

    While Cat Dad may not be as well known as Tiger Mother, he's actually been around nearly as long. One of the original Cat Dads was Chang Zhitao, a father from Shanghai who went head to head in a debate with Chua shortly after her book was published. Despite having vastly different approaches to parenting, both Chua and Chang had daughters who were accepted into Harvard University.

    And as if the Tiger-Cat fight wasn't enough, there's also another animalistic parenting persona coming from China. Wolf Dad is even stricter than Tiger Mom and is epitomised by Xiao Baiyou, a father who believes that "beating kids is part of their upbringing."

    "Just as their names suggest, Cat Dad prefers a gentle approach to children's education, while Tiger Mom and Wolf Dad believe that education is a painful process," says Vincent Ni of BBC Chinese. "It's been a long time since Chinese TV aired such a drama that captured the two seemingly conflicting education philosophies so well. While closely following the drama, Chinese audiences also took to social media to discuss, share and voice their different opinions of the way to raise kids."

    More than 80m people tuned into "Tiger Mom Cat Dad" and the series finale attracted tens of thousands of comments on Weibo. Some defended Cat Dad: "I think there is too much bullying going on in their household. It's completely disrespectful. There's no consideration whatsoever towards the man," one user commented. Others saw the dad as a weak character who wasn't compatible with his wife: "I think the tiger mother and the cat dad should divorce," one viewer wrote. "I really hope a wolf dad and tiger mother can be together. This type of 'warm man' (Cat Dad) is a not real man."

    Actor Tong Dawei shared his own #CatDad experience

    Tong Dawei, the actor who plays the Cat Dad in the TV show, posted an image of himself and his daughter to his personal Weibo account with the tongue-in-cheek caption: "Mum went out when the water pipes were broken. Daddy held back his tears and mended it before she came back." It got a huge reaction - over 63,000 likes and 5,000 comments - including the remark "As a man, I could in no way be like the 'Cat Dad'" - proof that even when life imitates art, being a Cat Dad still hasn't really caught on in China.

    Blog by Anne-Marie Tomchakand Kerry Allen.
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    Zhao Wei's glare causing "spiritual damage"

    Shanghai man sues actress Zhao Wei for 'staring' at him on TV

    Today in weird court cases: a man in Shanghai filed a lawsuit against the famous actress Zhao Wei for staring at him through the TV screen.

    The man has accused the actress of causing "spiritual damage" with her intense glares and is now demanding compensation, China Times reports, citing the People's Court of Shanghai Pudong's New District.

    Zhao stars in the popular TV drama Tiger Mom (《虎媽貓爸》), which began airing on Dragon Television and Tianjin Television in May. She plays one of the main characters, who is described as "emotionally unstable" and is known to give piercing stares to her on-screen husband and daughter.

    According to Legal Daily, Shanghai's courts have seen a number of bizarre lawsuits come through since last month, when a new system of processing court cases became effective. Recently, a lawyer took legal action against a district court judge for causing damage to his health after the judge failed to call a break during a proceeding.

    As of this month, The People's Court of Shanghai in Pudong New District has dismissed a total of 14 cases.
    I've always liked Zhao Wei, ever since Shaolin Soccer. She does have enormous peepers though.
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    She's a TOTAL BABE.

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    She's also a total Billionaire...

    ...or is that billionairess?

    Hot, rich and has a huge peepers that can cause spiritual damage. Yeah, I've always crushed on Zhao Wei for oh so many reasons...

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    China's Billionaire Actress Zhao Wei

    The world’s wealthiest working actress is a former kindergarten teacher with such keen investing acumen that she’s been nicknamed “China’s show-business Buffett” by her country’s media.

    Combining brains and beauty with a Midas touch, Zhao “Vicki” Wei (赵薇) has parlayed her TV and movie acting salaries, her hefty endorsement fees, and her smart investment moves into a personal fortune, shared with her husband Huang Youlong, that recently zoomed past the billion-dollar mark.

    (Ed. Note: Because Zhao shares her fortune with her husband, she would not currently qualify for inclusion in our annual billionaire rankings, which require individuals to have a net worth of $1 billion apiece, and married couples to have a shared worth of at least $2 billion, equivalent to $1 billion apiece.)

    As one of China’s biggest stars, Zhao has earned millions from her acting roles, and even more from an extraordinary range of brand endorsements. She’s touted over 120 products ranging from Chinese health and beauty supplies to wines to motorcycles, as well as western brands like Mercedes Benz, DeBeers, Versace, Zegna, Dior, Jaeger-LeCoultre, Motorola and others.

    Zhao Wei

    Successful investments in real estate, a French winery, and a Singapore jewelry retailer have further boosted her fortune. But it has been her shrewd stock market picks that have put Zhao Wei in the “three comma club” (billionaire status), as HBO’s “Silicon Valley” character Russ Hanneman would put it.

    Zhao’s biggest and most lucrative score has been her December, 2014 investment in close friend Jack Ma’s Alibaba Pictures Group. Back in June, 2014, Ma had acquired a 61 percent stake in a money losing movie operation, then called ChinaVision, at a valuation of $10.4 billion Hong Kong dollars (USD 1.3 billion). To boost the stock market value of his investment, Ma, a novice in the film business, asked Zhao Wei to bring a touch of celebrity to the film unit.

    According to a Hong Kong stock exchange filing, Zhao purchased a 9.18 percent stake in Alibaba Pictures for HKD 3.1 billion (U.S. $400 million) through Gold Ocean Media, an investment company she owns with her husband Huang. Six months later, after a frenzied rise in Hong Kong stock prices, Alibaba Pictures’ market cap has soared to HKD 74.3 billion ($9.6 billion), leaving the couple with a stake (reduced by the sale of some shares in April) worth $762 million. Combining that windfall with their other holdings, the couple’s net worth has now topped $1 billion.

    Born in eastern China’s mountainous Anhui province, Zhao has claimed that she never planned to become famous, explaining, “I thought actresses had to be beautiful, and I thought I was ordinary.”

    The 39-year-old actress caught the acting bug at 17 when the film Hua Hun starring Gong Li came to her hometown and she was chosen to appear as an extra. Soon after, she quit her job as a kindergarten teacher and headed to Shanghai to enroll in a new film arts academy founded by legendary director Xie Jin. Then, at the age of 20 she earned the highest score in the entrance exam to enroll at the prestigious Beijing Film Academy.

    While still a student there she rose to national prominence when she starred—along with now world-famous actress Fan Bingbing—in the smash hit TV drama My Fair Princess. For that role she became the youngest actress to win China’s Golden Eagle Award, the equivalent of America’s Emmy Award. She went on to more awards recognition for a string of film appearances, most notably John Woo’s Red Cliff, the epic adventure Warriors of Heaven and Earth and the Painted Skin films.

    Beyond acting, Zhao’s talents also extend into other artistic fields. She had a successful career as a singer, recording seven albums between 1999 and 2009, scoring numerous top 10 hits on the Chinese music charts and an MTV Asia award as Favourite Artist from Mainland China. In 2013 Zhao made her movie directorial debut with the youth romance So Young. The film became a big box office hit, earning USD 118 million at mainland multiplexes which made it the fifth highest grossing film in Chinese box office history at the time.

    Zhao has put some of her money and her time to work for charitable causes, with active involvement and donations to such organizations as the China Youth Foundation’s Hope Project, the United Nations Children’s Fund, and to China Red Cross. In 2011 Zhao received the China Charity Billboard Award for her contributions to others in need.
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    So have you interviewed her yet? I'm sure she would like to grace the cover of Kungfu TaiChi in a form-set pose, yes?

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    I wish...

    The closest I ever got to Zhao Wei was at a Shaolin Festival. Read Shaolin Trips: Episode 4 - A Hero Watching the Formation: Chapter 2: Xingqiliu (Saturday): The Opening Ceremony & Gala Night. There's a photo I took of her in that article. Well, actually it's a photo of her image on a jumbotron monitor as she was on stage and I was miles away on the other side of the stadium.
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    Not sure if this was posted elsewhere. So weird! I'm guessing this new rule is an attempt at giving the average guy a fair shake?

    Chinese actress Zhao Wei sued for 'staring' at man through his TV set
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    Eagle Dad!

    Forget Cat Dads and Wolf Dads.

    And this thread totally goes ON TOPIC.

    Chinese father who famously forced his child to run in just his underwear in the middle of winter now holds CLASSES for boys to train topless in the snow

    'Eagle Dad' He Leisheng has set up a snow-training academy in China
    Famously made son, five, run through the snow in NYC in his underwear
    Now uses the same winter training methods on other Chinese children

    PUBLISHED: 10:42 EST, 2 February 2016 | UPDATED: 14:16 EST, 2 February 2016

    A man who famously made his five-year-old son run through the snowy streets of New York wearing just his underwear has now set up his own 'winter training academy'.
    He Leisheng, from Nanjing, capital of east China's Jiangsu Province, has become known as 'Eagle Dad' for the gruelling challenges he puts his children through in the name of 'parenting'.
    However, his tough-love approach has made him a local celebrity, with other parents now letting him train their children - topless and in the snow.

    Training: More than a dozen young boys take part in outdoor 'Eagle Dad' training sessions where they are forced to run topless through the snow

    Tough love: Mr He's own son joined 13 other boys for a topless workout, despite freezing temperatures

    They see me rolling: The young boys even had to roll through the snow during the gym class

    Mr He became a household name in China four years ago when he made his son, He Yide, run and train in a wintry New York in nothing but his underwear.
    Mr He is now leading his own unorthodox gym class in his son's school, arguing that the challenge will help fortify the mental and physical strength of their children.

    His son Yide is now 8 years old and his father believes his son benefits from being exposed to harsher environments.
    And judging by the turnout at his new training camp, it is obvious that other parents agree.
    Photos from the Jiangsu Physical Education College show Yide and more than a dozen other children taking part in the winter training regime.

    Father of the year: He Leisheng, from Nanjing, Jiangsu Province, has become known as 'Eagle Dad' for the gruelling challenges he puts his children through in the name of 'parenting'

    Mr He is argues that the topless snow training will help fortify the mental and physical strength of the children

    Mr He who dubbed himself the 'Eagle Father', saying mother eagles will push their chicks out of the nest in order to teach them to fly - a philosophy he adopted with his own son

    Tough: The training session lasts nine minutes in total and stars with a short warm-up led by Mr He

    Mr He famously made his son Yide train in a wintry New York in just his underwear when he was five

    Girls were allowed to wear a top and trousers, while boys were given only trousers to wear as they rolled around in the snow during the military-style exercise.
    The training lasts nine minutes in total and stars with a short warm-up led by Mr He, who will continue to train his kids year on year.
    Mr He, a businessman, became determined to toughen his son up after the boy was born prematurely, leading doctors to warn that he might suffer physical defects.
    Mr He devised an 'eagle education' plan for his son, including swimming lessons from just 10 days outside the incubator, lessons from the age of six months, and mountain climbing from two years old
    Other challenges for Yide included eight hours of lessons a day from the age of six months, mountain climbing from two years old, and five miles of jogging every day.
    Yide was also registered for classes including kung fu and kickboxing, while he took up skateboarding and bike riding of his own accord.
    It was Mr He who dubbed himself the 'Eagle Father', saying mother eagles will push their chicks out of the nest in order to teach them to fly - a philosophy he adopted with his own son.
    The name is taken from Chinese-American author Amy 'Tiger Mother' Chua's who argued that Chinese mothers were superior to American mothers because they pushed their children harder.
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    Jump Rope whippin'

    'Tiger mother' jailed for beating her adoptive son with a skipping rope when he didn't do his homework is released (and he was very happy to see her)

    'Tiger mum' was released after six months detention in Jiangsu, China
    The former journalist was sentenced in prison for beating her adopted son
    The boy was seen crying outside and waiting for his mother to be released

    PUBLISHED: 06:59 EST, 14 March 2016 | UPDATED: 07:13 EST, 14 March 2016

    A tiger mother from China who was sentenced to six months in prison for beating her adopted son was released from jail yesterday and greeted by the boy.

    The woman named Li Zhengqin was met at the prison gates by the nine-year-old child and his biological mother, the People's Daily Online reports.

    The boy, who remains unidentified, was seen running to his adopted mother's arms and telling her that he had missed her.

    Reunited: The boy runs to welcome his adoptive mother who was jailed for six months after she beat him

    Back together: The family weep together while the boy's biological mother apologises for her incarceration

    The boy had been adopted by the 48-year-old from his parents in a remote village in Anhui province so that he could get a better education in the city.

    His biological mother and his adoptive mother, Li Zhengqin, are cousins.

    Li, who is a former journalist, was sentenced to six months in prison for brutally beating the boy with a skipping rope.

    She had claimed that she was trying to teach the boy a lesson for not studying hard.

    Although she says she did not beat the boy violently, her son sustained 150 wounds over his body as a result of lying about his academic grading and not finishing his homework.

    The woman was sentenced to six months in prison in November at a court in Nanjing City.

    During the trial she said that she was trying to deter him from lying and did not beat him hard.

    Cruel woman: The boy's adoptive mother admitted in court to beating him but said she didn't do it that hard

    According to Li, she beat the boy after he lied about his academic grading and didn't do his homework

    Free: The boy went to live with his biological mother while his adoptive mother served her prison sentence

    On the day of Li's release, the boy's biological mother was crying as she met Li at the prison gates in east China's Jiangsu province, apologising for what she had suffered during her incarceration.

    However, the biological mother did not explain what she felt sorry for.

    Li's adopted son said he missed her. He said that he had trouble finishing his homework after Li was imprisoned as she helped him understand.

    After Li Zhengqin was arrested, Xiaohu moved back to live with his biological parents.

    His biological mother is illiterate and he says that she cannot help him with his homework.

    The child told reporters from Jinghua Online: 'I lied and my mother did not want me to do that.

    'I don't hate her. She was doing all that for my own good.'

    Even his biological mother urged the authorities to drop all criminal charges against her cousin.

    The case is one of the first recorded of an adult being charged with assaulting a child, which has been accepted as normal in China for generations.

    In court: Li says she had good intentions when she beat her adopted son for not completing his homework
    Those are some serious jump rope welts...And of course, the kid is going to run to her, else he get another lickin'
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    Wake of One-Child policy

    Population pressures are their own one-child policy.

    China drops one-child policy, but ‘exhausted’ tiger moms say one is plenty

    Han Jing and her husband, Zhang Pengzhi, hold their son, Zhang Zichen. (Family photo)

    By Simon Denyer and Congcong Zhang October 16

    BEIJING — Han Jing’s son started taking after-school classes when he was just 5 years old: extra English, math and drawing so he wouldn’t fall behind the other children at kindergarten.

    “I didn’t want him to feel ashamed or have low self-esteem on his first day of elementary school,” she said, worried that he’d face other children who spoke English, knew thousands of Chinese characters or could play the piano.

    Three years later, the pressure has only mounted: She and her husband spend more than $10,000 a year on after-school classes. It’s a huge drain on their time, and an even bigger one on their resources, given that her husband earns less than $35,000 a year.

    Their apartment is too small for a second child, and the cost of moving to a bigger one in Beijing has risen out of their reach. But it is not just money that is preventing them from having a second one: Han says they have also devoted all of their time and energy into their son, and they are simply exhausted.

    “Seeing how much pressure my kid is under makes us feel bad, too, so I don’t want another kid of mine to go through this,” she said. “He’s so tired. We’re too tired. Whether it’s us or the child, I don’t think of any of us can handle another one.”

    A child walks near a sign that reads, "1.3 billion people united" on the streets of Beijing, China. (Ng Han Guan/AP)

    For nearly seven decades, China’s Communist Party has been an invisible presence in every bedroom here. In 1949, Mao Zedong said having more people would make the country stronger. The party condemned birth control and outlawed the import of contraceptives. Millions of women followed the Great Helmsman’s advice, and the population doubled.

    It wasn’t until after Mao died that the party reversed course, doing so dramatically and often brutally. The one-child policy introduced in 1979 led to untold millions of forced abortions, sterilizations and horrific abuses of power. Birthrates plummeted.

    Now, the party is changing course again. China’s population is aging fast, and that’s a huge, looming burden on the economy. The one-child policy was relaxed in 2013 and abandoned at the beginning of this year. The party wants people to get busy again.

    Provinces all across China have offered women longer maternity leave, often adding several months to the old standard 98 days. In villages, new slogans are being dreamed up by party committees and draped across buildings and walls.

    “Train your body, build up strength, get ready for the second baby!” one slogan said, according to reports in an online forum. “Get to sleep early, stop playing cards, work hard to produce a child!” exhorted another.

    “No fines, no arrests. Go ahead and have a second child if you want one!”

    The problem is that many people don’t want a second child any more. Having only one has become ingrained in Chinese culture and society, and people no longer believe the party should be telling them what to do in the bedroom.

    So when officials in the city of Yichang in Hubei province issued a public letter in September exhorting party members to “respond to the party’s call” and “fully implement the two-child policy,” there was outrage online.

    “You can’t just make people have kids when you want them to, or stop when you tell them, we are humans not pigs!” one person posted.

    Even the state-owned Global Times newspaper called the recommendations “ridiculous and illegal,” and the public letter has since disappeared from the website of the city’s health and family planning commission.

    The government says the national birthrate rose by 6.9 percent in the first six months of this year compared with the same period last year, with 800,000 more births recorded.

    State media even reported a “baby boom” in Beijing, with long lines forming at the capital’s top hospitals to reserve beds, and some maternity wards booked until next April.

    But those reports were misleading, said Wang Feng, of the University of California at Irvine.

    This year’s rise in childbirths is below the government’s target of 2.5 million extra births in 2016, he said, and still modest considering all the pent-up demand that the one-child policy should have created.

    The lines at the capital’s top hospitals are a function of bottlenecks in China’s overstretched health system: Many of the women who have elected to give birth this year are older than average, and have been encouraged to head for Grade A hospitals in case of complications.

    Indeed, when the one-child policy was first relaxed in 2013, allowing parents who grew up as only children to have a second child, just 18 percent of the 11 million eligible couples applied to do so, Wang said, a response he called “lukewarm.”

    Mass migration to cities, where costs of living are high, has depressed birthrates, while people are getting married later, or not at all, Wang said.

    “In the short run, hopefully China can add more people to its population, but in the long run it is very unlikely that fertility will go above 1.5 children per couple,” he said.

    That’s a problem for China. The people born in Mao’s era are growing old, and there will be far fewer people of working age to bear the economic burden.

    But Xi Wei, father of a 9-year-old boy, said that he and his wife won’t be trying for another child. Their son does extra classes after school and all day on Saturday, and parents and child all feel exhausted by the social pressure for him not to “fall behind.”

    As only children themselves, Xi and his wife also don’t think there is anything wrong with growing up alone. “After all these years, everybody is inclined to just have one child. Everybody’s used to it,” he said. “How can you have a second child when the whole society has hostile and incompatible resources towards it?”
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    Tiger Mother, Tiger Father

    Tyger Tyger Burning Bright
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    Vanessa Mae's and her tiger mother Pamela Tan Nicholson
    My mother hit me and made me kowtow to her... on my knees: Vanessa Mae reveals how her strict tiger mother slapped her face to improve her violin playing

    Vanessa Mae reveals her mother Pamela Tan Nicholson slapped her during violin practice
    Sacked her 'tiger mother' as manager 14 years ago and pair do not speak

    Today Vanessa, now 35, admits for the first time that, when she was a child, her ‘tiger mother’ – far from simply being strict – used violence to discipline her.
    Pamela would hit her, often around the face, and even made her ‘kowtow’ on bended knees while making her pull her ears and beg for forgiveness.

    Her mother twice used the traditional Chinese custom of the ‘kowtow’ to humiliate her.
    My trainer stopped hitting me when I was 15 after I hit him back and he started to cry
    Traditionally, the kowtow – in which a person must kneel and prostrate themselves – was performed before the Emperor as a sign of respect.
    Children were also required to perform it in front of their parents, especially at special occasions.
    In extreme cases, it was used to apologize for wrongdoing, but is little used in modern-day China.
    ‘It’s a subservience thing, not forgetting who is boss,’ says Vanessa. ‘I was made to pull my ears at the same time.’
    Vanessa was so tightly controlled by her mother that she was allowed to leave her house alone only when she turned 20.
    ‘I had faced thousands of people on stage and millions on TV, but I didn’t know how to cross the road,’ she says, laughing.

    She says her mother would resort to slapping her if she did not play her instrument perfectly as a child
    ‘I’d never made my own bed, got my own breakfast, walked down the street alone or bought my own carton of milk.
    Everything was geared towards focusing me on my violin career. You can look at it either as a spoilt existence or a trapped one.
    ‘Certainly, it was a regimented life, but I’m lucky to have had a childhood that was in many ways pretty spoilt – all I had to do was play the violin.’

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    But if the young musician didn’t play a piece perfectly, her mother – and often her music teacher – would resort to slapping her.
    ‘Up until I was 20, if my mother was upset she’d be hitting away,’ she says matter-of-factly. ‘She’d hit me on the arms and the face. It was just her form of expression.
    ‘I was in Lyon once and my mother and music trainer were both upset with me because of some playing issue.

    They both hit me at the same time then said, “Stay here, we’re going out. And by the way, load the dish washer.” Maybe I wasn’t thinking about my career enough.

    ‘My trainer stopped hitting me when I was 15, after I hit him back and he started to cry.

    The heart-breaking moment I realized my mother had cut me off forever, by violin virtuoso Vanessa-Mae

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    Vanessa Mae has revealed how she was forced to 'kowtow' to her mother, pull her own ears and beg for forgiveness when being disciplined as a child
    "In April 2006, Vanessa-Mae was ranked as the wealthiest young entertainer under 30 in the UK in the Sunday Times Rich List 2006, having an estimated fortune of about £32 million"
    Her mother, she says, used to tell her: 'I love you because you are my daughter, but you'll never be special to me unless you play the violin.'
    Today Vanessa says: 'Reading that e-mail from my mother, I just felt numb. I guess it confirms something I've secretly believed for many years now: just being my mother is simply not enough for her.'

    Vanessa says her mother didn't believe she should have a life outside music.

    Born in Singapore, Vanessa moved to London at the age of three and her mother began marshalling her daughter's musical talents from the moment they arrived in Britain.

    At the age of eight, Vanessa was taken out of school for half of each day to concentrate on her violin. By the age of 11, she was admitted to the Royal College Of Music, where she was seven years younger than most of her peers.
    vanessa and violin

    Vanessa was the youngest soloist ever to record Beethoven and Tchaikovsky's demanding violin concertos when she was just 13
    Pamela managed everything from her bank accounts to choosing her clothes, make-up and, inevitably, that provocative cover of her first single. Vanessa wasn't even allowed to slice bread in case she cut her hand.
    She was forced to drop every one of her school friends because they were considered a distraction. Stardom beckoned and the millions rolled in.

    But just before her 21st birthday Vanessa finally snapped.
    Sick of her mother's domineering influence, she fired her as her manager, desperately hoping they could have a normal mother/daughter relationship.

    It was not to be. They severed all normal contact and studiously avoided each other at family occasions.

    When Vanessa tried to re-establish their relationship by involving Pamela in the BBC1 documentary, she had hoped that by inviting her mother to help explore the root of her talent, she would discover whether she was born with her musical ability, or whether it was cultivated by her mother's determination for her to succeed.

    But Pamela was having none of it - as the terse e-mail the team behind the science programme The Making Of Me (shown last night) received in response showed only too clearly.

    'My mother is, and always has been, an extremely driven person and has an unquenchable thirst for success, and that is something that can be very difficult to understand when you are a child or a teenager,' says Vanessa.

    'Doing the documentary was very cathartic. In my case it is a matter of both nature and nurture which has helped me achieve what I have, and whatever way you look at it, my mother is a big part of that.'

    Whether it is her approaching 30th birthday or the fact that she has for the past nine years been happily settled with her French boyfriend Lionel Catelan, 38, a wine dealer,

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    Vanessa says her thoughts have inevitably turned to becoming a mother herself.
    Today Vanessa says had she not been so strong, she'd have been destroyed by her mother's behaviour
    But she confesses: 'I am petrified of having children of my own because I know that whatever you say or do to a child affects them deeply.

    'Once, as a teenager, I remember being sick before a show - I think I had some kind of bug - and the look my mother gave me because I couldn't give 100 per cent was chilling.
    'She'd tell me I'd only get a good husband if I was successful, and she condoned the fact that my music tutors would slap me across the face if I wasn't putting everything I had into my playing.'

    Every pastime was questioned by her mother.
    'She wanted me to give up skiing, which I'm passionate about, because she thought it was too dangerous for my career.'

    Vanessa seems determined not to repeat her mother's mistakes and has particularly strong views on parenting.
    'I believe that when you have children there's a certain point when you have to let go and stop pushing. I hope and pray that if I have children of my own I will know when that point is.'


    Vanessa-Mae has expressed a lack of interest in marriage, saying "you don't need a ring to say I love you".
    No children, no marriage, she appears to have been somewhat damaged and has had an uneven musical career despite the spectacular success she started off with. It's a 'mystery solved" for me, I'm a big fan, I was wondering for years "Where is the next album? What happened? etc.

    Yu Jim-Yuen and the China Drama Academy

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    Yu Jim-yuen (September 5, 1905 – September 8, 1997) was the master of the China Drama Academy, one of the main Peking Opera Schools in Hong Kong from which Jackie Chan, Sammo Hung, Yuen Biao, Yuen Qiu, Yuen Wah, and Corey Yuen received their training. He was also the father of early wuxia actress Yu So Chow, who appeared in more than 150 movies
    Practice at the Peking Opera School was very strict. The students signed into contracts that would allow the instructors to punish them up until death. Training would take place up to 18 hours a day and included stretching, weapons training, acrobatics, martial arts and acting. In an interview in 2008, Jackie Chan described the experience:

    "It was really arduous, we hardly had enough to eat, enough clothes to keep warm, training was extremely tiring, and Master could cane us anytime!"


    Hung retorted:

    " that time, majority of the people in Hong Kong were poor. It was equally gruelling whichever profession you were in. We were considered fortunate. Our Master was an exceptional person, and he adopted Jackie Chan as his son, and doted on him the most. [..] Our Master took in many disciples, but he didn't take a single cent from us, and even slept on the floor together with us."
    A different story most or all of his progeny have had had professional lives and normal or successful personal lives.
    Last edited by wolfen; 10-18-2016 at 04:39 PM.

  13. #73
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    SF Bay Area
    Quote Originally Posted by GeneChing View Post
    Population pressures are their own one-child policy.
    BEIJING — Han Jing’s son started taking after-school classes when he was just 5 years old: extra English, math and drawing so he wouldn’t fall behind the other children at kindergarten.
    Not until 5 years old?


  14. #74
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    Dec 1969
    Fremont, CA, U.S.A.

    say no to less homework

    Why China’s Tiger Mums (and dads) are resisting its ‘less homework’ policy
    Authorities say youngsters are weighed down through excessive homework and extra classes amid intense competition among parents to help their children ‘get ahead’
    PUBLISHED : Saturday, 24 March, 2018, 11:45am
    UPDATED : Saturday, 24 March, 2018, 11:28pm
    Alice Yan

    “Dear Ministry of Education, please don’t reduce the schoolwork burden on our children.”

    This is the title of an article that has been widely shared on Chinese social media in recent weeks after education authorities instructed primary and middle schools across the nation to reduce the pressure on pupils and regulate the out-of-school-hours tutoring market.

    Since the order was issued late last month, parents in big cities have been discussing heatedly whether to let their children have a more relaxed and happy lifestyle as the education authorities advise, or give them large amounts of homework and send them to extra classes in their spare time to learn subjects such as English, mathematics and Chinese language.

    In line with the authorities’ order, in Hangzhou, Zhejiang province, many junior high school headmasters have proposed that pupils should not have to complete their homework if they cannot finish it by 10pm.

    Neighbouring Jiangsu province has also adjusted school start times for pupils, allowing youngsters to begin classes from 7.20 to 8am. Previously, school could start as early as 7am, Xinhua reported.

    Children at a school in Zhejiang province read the country’s revised constitution earlier this month after a meeting of the national legislature. Photo: EPA-EFE

    But China’s Tiger Mums and Dads believe the move to lessen the schoolwork burden on their children is a bad idea.

    “Deep down inside, I really want my son to have more time to play, too, but I have to remind myself to be rational,” said Qian Min, the father of a primary school pupil in Shanghai’s Xuhui district.

    “To qualify for admission into a key junior middle school, he has to study hard now. Only by entering a key junior middle school can you go on to study at a key high school. Then you can go to university. There’s no other option,” he said.

    His son studies at a state school, but over the past two years has also attended four classes in his spare time – two for maths, one for English and one for writing Chinese compositions. The boy’s eyesight has deteriorated due to his heavy homework and he admits he has little time for his main hobby – reading books.

    “Those extracurricular classes and homework are boring. However, I must be persistent for the sake of a bright future,” the boy said.

    Mainland Chinese primary and middle school pupils spend an average of 2.82 hours doing their homework each day, about three times the global average, Wang Guoqing, a spokesman for the political advisory body the Chinese People’s Political Consultative Conference, said earlier this month.

    A study by the OECD in 2012 found 15-year-olds in Shanghai spent an average of 13.8 hours every week on their homework, longer than all other countries and regions surveyed.

    Russian children followed with 9.7 hours and Singapore youngsters clocked an average of 9.4 hours. Pupils of the same age in the US spent 6.1 hours a week doing their homework, while Hong Kong students recorded six hours, according to the study.

    However, OECD global education rankings suggest many countries and cities with a lower burden of homework consistently surpass or perform just as well as China.

    Canadian pupils, for example, spent an average 5.5 hours on their homework, the survey said.

    In the OECD’s Programme for International Student Assessment (PISA) survey in 2015, Canada was ranked seventh among 69 countries and regions in science, 10th in mathematics and 2nd in reading. Pupils from Beijing, Shanghai, Guangdong and Jiangsu in China ranked 10th in science, 6th in maths and 27th in reading.

    Youngsters do their homework in class at a school for migrant workers’ children in Beijing. Photo: Simon Song

    Fan Xianzuo, an education professor at Central China Normal University in Wuhan in Hubei province, said the authorities have been discussing reducing the burden on pupils for more than two decades, but ironically their workload has actually increased over the years.

    “As long as the university entrance exam is the only way for students to get admitted, parents will force their kids to put all efforts into studying,” said Fan.

    Strong demand from parents has boosted the market for after-school tutoring in China.

    But many tutors merely focus on teaching pupils how to perform well in exams, rather than aiding the wider educational development of the child, according to a circular issued by the education ministry along with three other central government departments at the end of February.

    “They have brought additional heavy homework for pupils and have increased financial burdens on families. There is a strong public outcry [against these institutions],”the circular said.

    Reducing the workload on children was also a catchword at the meetings of the national legislature in Beijing earlier this month, with many delegates calling for reduced homework for young students.

    One area the authorities have pledged to crack down on is tutors teaching children topics way too advanced for their years and holding competitions on academic subjects.

    Many primary school pupils taking extracurricular classes are taught subjects aimed at older-grade students. Academic competitions are valued by parents in big cities as children performing well are rated highly by top middle schools, many of them privately-run, when selecting students.

    Education professor Fan said making real efforts to raise standards at all state primary and junior middle schools would lessen the need for cutthroat competition to get into academically higher achieving schools.

    If all schools have a high teaching standard, young pupils will not need to compete for a place in key middle schools at a young age, said Fan.

    Zhang Duanhong, an academic at Tongji University’s Higher Education Research Institute, agreed, adding that overloading children with extra homework was not the answer to raise standards.

    “Parents think if their children learn less at school, they must learn more out of school so they can catch up with their counterparts in other schools,” said Zhang. “If more parents hold this unreasonable belief, it’s more difficult to reduce the burden on children.”

    This article appeared in the South China Morning Post print edition as: Parents resist less-homework policy
    While there are some lessons in overloading students, it's more about quality than quantity. That's my take as a parent. But maybe I'm a Cat Dad.
    Gene Ching
    Author of Shaolin Trips
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    Wow. India.

    They have tigers in India too.

    BY CRISTINA MAZA ON 5/17/18 AT 1:59 PM

    Parents from countries like India, Turkey, and Singapore spend significantly more time helping their children with homework than their counterparts in countries like Japan, the United Kingdom, or France, according to a survey published by the World Economic Forum.

    According to the data, parents in India spend around 12 hours sitting with their children and helping them with homework every week. On the other extreme, parents in Japan spend just 2.6 hours helping their kids. The United States falls in the middle; parents there spend an average of around 6 hours with their children doing homework every week. That is just a little under the global average of 7 hours per week.

    The survey was conducted by the Varkey Foundation, which interviewed around 27,500 parents in 29 countries. The data does not describe what impact these hours have on educational outcomes, or whether mothers and fathers spend an equal amount of time with their kids on homework. But it does seem to suggest that parents from emerging economies are the most involved in their children’s education. According to the survey, parents in middle-income countries where the economy is rapidly developing are more likely to spend a higher number of hours with their kids on homework.

    Infographic: Where Parents Help Their Kids With Homework | Statista You will find more infographics at Statista

    India exceeded all of the other countries with its 12 average hours per week. But Turkey, Singapore and Brazil all followed closely behind, spending between 7.5 to 8.7 hours every week on homework. Parents in wealthy countries like France, Japan and Australia, on the contrary, spend significantly less time helping their children with homework.

    Some analysts suggest that parents spend a higher number of hours working on homework with their children if they have less faith in their country’s educational system. India, as one of the world’s most populous countries, has a large education system that offers both private and public schools. A 2014 study from the British Council claims that India has one of the world’s most complex education systems in the world, with 1.4 million schools and around 230 million enrollments each year. But the country spends a lower percentage of GDP on schools than comparable developing countries, the Economist reported last year, and while enrolment has improved, the level of teaching—and learning—has not.

    That's where the Tiger Moms come in.
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    Author of Shaolin Trips
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