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    Entrance Strategies

    What's yours? Kung fu is about getting in and finishing, not playing from the outside tap tappity. How do you get in and finish? Are you one who feints? Are you one who is the hunter or the one who responds to the attack? Do you have the school of thought that if your opponent moves away you move in, if he moves in, you move in, if he stays, you move in?

    What do you use and what works for you?

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    Blind side angles or "smashing" up the middle.
    Psalms 144:1
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    He trains my hands for war, my fingers for battle !

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    Depends, usually either cover and crash using crazy monkey, of level change under their attacks and clinch the body

    Getting close to clinch and hit (my goal) isn’t usually that hard, people usually plant to throw bombs or stalk you down and come to you, if they are playing the outside game then I cut the angle put them against an immovable object (like a cage, wall ring etc) or just run them down with a blast double lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by sanjuro_ronin View Post
    Blind side angles or "smashing" up the middle.
    Concur....
    The weakest of all weak things is a virtue that has not been tested in the fire.
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    Blind side angles or "smashing" up the middle.
    I don't appreciate you stealing the words from my mouth.....

    I CHALLENGE YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    LMAO
    I'm pretty sure the only thing tongs do nowadays is make sure Chinese restaurants don't pay out tips to their waiters. - Pazman[/B]

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    Quote Originally Posted by hskwarrior View Post
    I don't appreciate you stealing the words from my mouth.....

    I CHALLENGE YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    LMAO
    We meet on the field of onions, horseshoes at 20 paces !!
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    He trains my hands for war, my fingers for battle !

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    We meet on the field of onions, horseshoes at 20 paces !!
    Ah! sweet victory will be had on the field of sweet onions....no cheating on the paces....its 20.....not 19 or 19.5 or 19.5.5......okay? ok! No witnesses.....that way i can claim total victory.
    I'm pretty sure the only thing tongs do nowadays is make sure Chinese restaurants don't pay out tips to their waiters. - Pazman[/B]

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    Quote Originally Posted by Frost View Post
    crash using crazy monkey,
    What's "crazy monkey"? Could you explain it?

    Is it "虎抱头(Hu Bao Tou) - tiger holding the head (double combing hair)"?

    Quote Originally Posted by sanjuro_ronin View Post
    Blind side angles or "smashing" up the middle.
    By using the TCMA terms that will be to enter through the

    - side door, or
    - front door.

    Besides the "side door" and "front door" concept, I like to add the

    - outer door - wrist range,
    - middle door - elbow range,
    - inner door - shoulder range, and
    - back door - behind the back.

    Also how you enter has a lot to do with whether you and your opponent are in

    - uniform stance (same sides forward) or
    - mirror stance (different sides forward).

    If you are a "grappler", you should notice the 4 sides concepts:

    - outside of your opponent's right leg.
    - inside of your opponent's right leg.
    - outside of your opponent's left leg.
    - inside of your opponent's left leg.
    Last edited by YouKnowWho; 11-25-2011 at 09:53 AM.

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    As a sign of my obvious maturity I'll refrain from commenting about back door entry strategies

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    This is a curious entry method.....

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=-xxkE30elDk
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    Quote Originally Posted by CFT View Post
    As a sign of my obvious maturity I'll refrain from commenting about back door entry strategies
    When you and your opponent are in "mirror stance", it's not that hard to enter his "back door".

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    Your opponent will let you know the path in, throw the water , it will find the crack.
    Last edited by Robinhood; 11-25-2011 at 08:27 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brule View Post
    Do you have the school of thought that if your opponent moves away you move in, if he moves in, you move in, if he stays, you move in?
    stealin' my lines, eh?


    The first three posts basically sums up our strategy for entrance.
    I'll add, I like to stick something at them to deal with as I bridge the gap.(low kick, thrust kick, round kick,sometimes simultaneous hand and foot etc)
    It draws their fire, or occupies their bridge so I can close from outside critical distance to inside, without getting hit on the way in.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TenTigers View Post
    stealin' my lines, eh?


    The first three posts basically sums up our strategy for entrance.
    I'll add, I like to stick something at them to deal with as I bridge the gap.(low kick, thrust kick, round kick,sometimes simultaneous hand and foot etc)
    It draws their fire, or occupies their bridge so I can close from outside critical distance to inside, without getting hit on the way in.
    Bridge fighting, my favorite.

    Another question, when does it start? Are you engaging when you look across the ref? what about your move out of the corner? straight in, or?

    And of course, the street? Firm believer that engagement starts well before crossing hands.

    Also, you need more than one. It has to be the right one for the right opponent. And no luxury to think about it...
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    Sifu Leung, Yuk Seng
    Established 1989, Glebe Australia

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    [QUOTE=YouKnowWho;1145072]What's "crazy monkey"? Could you explain it?

    Is it "虎抱头(Hu Bao Tou) - tiger holding the head (double combing hair)"?


    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n1Qx1...eature=related

    This type of movement is seen in some of the CLF sets we do .. seems that the gentleman who has codified the movements and organised them into a format has called them Crazy Monkey... seems to be quite effective on the vids : ')

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