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    oldest style of mantis around

    http://youtu.be/TxpH7oYsZ0I

    I saw this video of Lin Tang Fang of Haiyang. Apparently his shifu was a disciple of Liang Xue Xiang, making it the oldest style of mantis. Does anyone know anything about this system? What makes up the syllabus?

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    Quote Originally Posted by xiao yao View Post
    http://youtu.be/TxpH7oYsZ0I

    I saw this video of Lin Tang Fang of Haiyang. Apparently his shifu was a disciple of Liang Xue Xiang, making it the oldest style of mantis. Does anyone know anything about this system? What makes up the syllabus?
    I have seen this video before. Thanks for providing some historical reference.
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    Sifu Tolson,

    Are you feeling allright? Someone posted that you were undergoing surgery.

    Hope your recovery is a sound one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LaterthanNever View Post
    Sifu Tolson,

    Are you feeling allright? Someone posted that you were undergoing surgery.

    Hope your recovery is a sound one.

    Regards,
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    LTN,
    Thanks for asking!
    Yes, I had quadruple heart bypass surgery. Recovery is going well. I am teaching classes, but unable to do much myself physically yet.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mooyingmantis View Post
    LTN,
    Thanks for asking!
    Yes, I had quadruple heart bypass surgery. Recovery is going well. I am teaching classes, but unable to do much myself physically yet.
    It takes more than a bypass to keep the man down !!
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    Quote Originally Posted by xiao yao View Post
    http://youtu.be/TxpH7oYsZ0I

    I saw this video of Lin Tang Fang of Haiyang. Apparently his shifu was a disciple of Liang Xue Xiang, making it the oldest style of mantis. Does anyone know anything about this system? What makes up the syllabus?
    Perhaps you should try contacting Ilya Profatilova for information. He was the speaker in the commentary.

    Here is his website:

    http://www.mantisboxing.msk.ru/
    Last edited by mooyingmantis; 06-07-2012 at 11:21 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by xiao yao View Post
    Does anyone know anything about this system? What makes up the syllabus?
    Third road of Beng Bu can be seen at 5:45 So, you can see how different, or similar it is to other schools, or to how you have learned it.

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    I would like to hear Robert Hui's take on the Beng bu being so similar to his own and what he deduces from that.

    The form at 8:05 (and again at 9:50) reminds me of Roberts dan zhai mei hua form.

    Zhao Zhuxi's mantis, apart what Ilya does here, is the only one that shoots out the double punches on a semi regular basis.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tainan Mantis View Post
    Third road of Beng Bu can be seen at 5:45 So, you can see how different, or similar it is to other schools, or to how you have learned it.
    This section of bung bu is similar as our CKTaichi mantis.

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    thanks for the info

    here is another video, which shows a section of something called "fumu quan" and then what i think is the opening of bengbu. just ignore the beginning where they are talking about the words eat and drink in haiyang dialect.....

    http://v.youku.com/v_show/id_XMzk4NjExODI4.html

    wasnt zhao zhu xi a classmate of wang guo dian? who did they learn from?

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    Quote Originally Posted by xiao yao View Post
    thanks for the info

    here is another video, which shows a section of something called "fumu quan" and then what i think is the opening of bengbu. just ignore the beginning where they are talking about the words eat and drink in haiyang dialect.....

    http://v.youku.com/v_show/id_XMzk4NjExODI4.html

    wasnt zhao zhu xi a classmate of wang guo dian? who did they learn from?
    The basics are there, but that is a very different version of Beng Bu in the way he performs it.

    He certainly favors the 闪 步 闪 肋 臂 as a throwing technique rather than as a "lifting yin" strike.

    左 右 二 阴 阳 and 左 右 低 叫 双 绑 掌 are quite different. 左 封 右 叠 肘 is done quite low with a sinking power. While the end of the clip is fairly standard.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mooyingmantis View Post
    The basics are there, but that is a very different version of Beng Bu in the way he performs it.

    He certainly favors the 闪 步 闪 肋 臂 as a throwing technique rather than as a "lifting yin" strike.

    左 右 二 阴 阳 and 左 右 低 叫 双 绑 掌 are quite different. 左 封 右 叠 肘 is done quite low with a sinking power. While the end of the clip is fairly standard.
    Like Alex said, it is like CKTaichi Mantis.
    This version does not contain 左 右 二 阴 阳 or 左 右 低 叫 双 绑 掌

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