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    Street vs. Sport Jiu Jitsu

    I like what these guys have to say about the subject.

    http://youtu.be/e864iZ4sB8Q

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    Great find Shaolin, they raise some interesting points in particular...the watering down of art due to its explosion in popularity. They were funny to, the graphics killed me and his on/off switch for street apps was hilarious.

    I see huge parallels with Judo and Wrestling, both 'sport' adaptations of what were real martial arts used for self defense. The Gracies are victims of their own popularity and the rise of MMA, I wonder if its about staying true to the art or more of a marketing strategy to draw or keep students under the 'Gracie' umbrella.

    I'm going to have to give this art a run in the near future...mostly due to the applications I can use in my work world defending staff, patients and others from psychiatric illness inspired violence.

    I would like to see some weapon applications from BJJ's JJJ origins. I wonder why the Gracies didn't bring weapons into their art?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hebrew Hammer View Post
    I would like to see some weapon applications from BJJ's JJJ origins. I wonder why the Gracies didn't bring weapons into their art?
    Because Kano removed the weapon work. The Gracie's were taught by Maeda who was a judoka, a grappler, and a groudwork specialist.

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    The street VS sport thing is getting really old and to be honest, it seems to be used only by those trying to "Sell something" usually THEIR product.

    Fact is that sport fighters handle themselves really well on the street and street fighters, typically, do NOT handle themselves well VS trained fighters in the ring.
    The moral being that sport translates well to street and street does NOT translate well to sport ( typically).
    The ideal is to take the sport mode ( hard contact vs a resisting opponent) and apply it to the "street environment".
    Enough of this either/or BS.
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    lol go ask renzo about this street v sport rubbish after what happened friday night to him

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    Note the date of this story...

    ...it's been picked up by some MMA news sites. Well played JiuJitsu Times.

    Jiu-Jitsu Officially Announced As An Event For The 2024 Olympics
    By Emil Fischer -April 1, 2021



    History was made today as the International Olympic Committee announced the inclusion of jiu-jitsu in the 2024 Olympics.

    For years there has been much debate on which ruleset the Olympics would use should they ever include the gentle art and who would be the director of the event to ensure the sport’s smooth transition to an Olympic sport.

    Carlos Gracie Jr., the grandson of Gracie Jiu-Jitsu founder Carlos Gracie; head honcho of the IBJJF and Gracie Barra will be overseeing the sport’s inclusion.

    “We went to great lengths to ensure that our sport would be treated with the respect it deserves. We will be using the current IBJJF no-gi rules with some minor modifications. For starters, open hand slaps will be allowed to simulate reality, as well as low kicks from the standing position. It’ll look a lot like the style of jiu-jitsu that my grandfather promoted all of his life.”

    The sport will look similar Combat Jiu-Jitsu with the exception of the low kicks.

    There was some concern with the nationalism of BJJ, namely that many Brazilians take issue with the term “American Jiu-Jitsu” seeing as the style was brought to America by Brazilians. To address this, Carlos Gracie Jr. had some stipulations.

    “Because we wanted to separate our sport in the Olympics from Judo, we are specifying it as Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu or Gracie Jiu-Jitsu. As part of the opening ceremony for the Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu event will include a collective bow to a portrait of Helio Gracie and Carlos Gracie Sr. We will also not be allowing teams that identify their style as American Jiu-Jitsu to participate because they are a threat to the shield of jiu-jitsu.”

    Jiu-Jitsu Times is excited to see the growth of our sport and its expansion to the Olympics!
    Below is the list on the Official Paris Olympics site:
    ARCHERY
    ARTISTIC SWIMMING
    ATHLETICS
    BADMINTON
    BASEBALL AND SOFTBALL
    BASKETBALL
    BASKETBALL 3X3
    BEACH VOLLEYBALL
    BOXING
    CANOE SLALOM
    CANOE SPRINT
    CYCLING BMX
    CYCLING MOUNTAIN BIKE
    CYCLING ROAD
    CYCLING TRACK
    DIVING
    EQUESTRIAN/DRESSAGE
    EQUESTRIAN/EVENTING
    EQUESTRIAN/JUMPING
    FENCING
    FOOTBALL
    GOLF
    GYMNASTICS ARTISTIC
    GYMNASTICS RHYTHMIC
    HANDBALL
    HOCKEY
    JUDO
    KARATE
    MARATHON SWIMMING
    MODERN PENTATHLON
    ROWING
    RUGBY
    SAILING
    SHOOTING
    SKATEBOARDING
    SPORT CLIMBING
    SURFING
    SWIMMING
    TABLE TENNIS
    TAEKWONDO
    TENNIS
    TRAMPOLINE
    TRIATHLON
    VOLLEYBALL
    WATER POLO
    WEIGHTLIFTING
    WRESTLING FREESTYLE
    WRESTLING GRECO-ROMAN
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