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    Don't let the tradition form to control you. You should control the traditional form instead. The traditional form is there to "serve" your need. If it doesn't serve you, throw it away.

    If you create your own form (or drills), your fighting will look as your training.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LaterthanNever View Post
    Jack Mace---

    What is this guy on??? Who did he learn from? His mantis is um...retarded? LOL. Yeah..that's it..
    Sorry dont wanna derail the thread too much..... a while back there was a discussion about him.... he was Shaolin-do, and now just makes **** up....

    Anyway, regarding the thread, the purpose of forms and basics is to ingrain body mechanics into you. It is done in an exaggerated way to develop muscle memory while cataloging techniques. When you fight of course you still use the techniques but you will do them in a natural way which doesnt look like a form.

    Im pretty sure this topic has been covered a million times in the past.

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    Quote Originally Posted by YouKnowWho View Post
    Don't let the tradition form to control you. You should control the traditional form instead. The traditional form is there to "serve" your need. If it doesn't serve you, throw it away.

    If you create your own form (or drills), your fighting will look as your training.

    Agreed John.
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    the more esoteric and different a style looks the more it seems to fall apart under pressure
    As much as I want to agree with that statement, it seems that are a few examples where that does not appear to be the case.
    You can find drunken boxers still utilizing their techniques and character under pressure during a match despite the fact that it is a very different and esoteric style. Wing Chun as well is a very different style from any other and yet often times in a sparring match you can clearly see who the wing chun fighter is.


    examples:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p5loQCc8ALA

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V7FKprAkK1Q

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W8jOGceedfw

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wuxia007 View Post
    As much as I want to agree with that statement, it seems that are a few examples where that does not appear to be the case.
    You can find drunken boxers still utilizing their techniques and character under pressure during a match despite the fact that it is a very different and esoteric style. Wing Chun as well is a very different style from any other and yet often times in a sparring match you can clearly see who the wing chun fighter is.


    examples:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p5loQCc8ALA

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V7FKprAkK1Q

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W8jOGceedfw
    The awkwardness and unorthodox ways of certain exotic systems are there strengths, what is unfortunate is that, as we saw in those clips, they were not able to actually capitalize on that early advantage.
    Probably because of lack of hard contact training and/or training only against themselves.
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    What should Tanglangquan look like in sparring?

    All CMA (such as the praying mantis system) like to use "low stances". If you stay in a low fighting stance that your head is on your opponent's waist level, you can protect your body well and expose very little space for your opponent attack. If you use that posture to move in inch by inch, when the distance is close enough, you suddenly shoot in, it can be a very effective strategy. In other words, if you give up all your striking ability and just concentrate on your "leg attack", you can confuse your opponent big time.

    I had used the low fighting stance to spar against a Karate guy before. None of his fancy high kick could land on me. After the sparring, he said, "I hate to spar with your Kung Fu guys", your guys just stand too low".
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    Quote Originally Posted by YouKnowWho View Post
    I had used the low fighting stance to spar against a Karate guy before. None of his fancy high kick could land on me. After the sparring, he said, "I hate to spar with your Kung Fu guys", your guys just stand too low".
    He didn't try to slam your leg and then kick your head?

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    Quote Originally Posted by YouKnowWho View Post
    What should Tanglangquan look like in sparring?

    All CMA (such as the praying mantis system) like to use "low stances".
    John,
    In our school we use low stances mostly for forms to build leg strength. But in fighting our stances are normally high, unless we dive down for a low strike (like in "phoenix pecks three times").
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    Quote Originally Posted by YouKnowWho View Post
    What should Tanglangquan look like in sparring?

    All CMA (such as the praying mantis system) like to use "low stances".
    lol

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