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    Mantis in the clinch

    The forum has been dead for quite some time so hopefully this will get people talking again.
    Mantis kungfu is well known for its hair grabbing/collar grabbing/neck grabbing techniques but what do you do after that? What do you do against your opponent once you have their hair or collar or neck controlled. And what techniques are available in mantis if you are the one being controlled in the clinch? I hope this promotes discussion. If possible name the technique in english and chinese. Describe its application and give what form it can be found in. Do you headbutt? Poke an eye? Rake the ear? Use face breaking elbow? Knee the crotch?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mantis9700 View Post
    Mantis kungfu is well known for its hair grabbing/collar grabbing/neck grabbing techniques but what do you do after that? What do you do against your opponent once you have their hair or collar or neck controlled.
    Head control gives you body control. Go for neck wrench and hard takedown.

    Examples:

    Both are in right lead. Control his right with your left, and attack with your right past the right side of his head. Left becomes tight underhook, right becomes guilllotine. Wrench the neck, step around, and drop him.

    Both are in right lead. Control his right with your left, and use right forearm hook. Left becomes overhook(or pass his right arm below your right), right forearm becomes headlock. Right leg steps through while using right hip strike. Sink, twist, wrench his neck and take him down.

    Same as previous, but instead of step through and twist, take his legs out to your right with the back of your right leg. This is Dun Pak takedown.

    Quote Originally Posted by Mantis9700 View Post
    And what techniques are available in mantis if you are the one being controlled in the clinch?
    If you are already controlled, then you have to protect your neck. Use the connection to maneuver and unbalance him. Doesn't matter if you grabbed him or he grabbed you. Whoever adjusts and gains advantage first comes out on top. Try to take out his center and take him down.

    Best is to prevent the head/neck control. Easy way is to step into his attack and use iron body strike to knock him down. Kick him in the head after that.

    Daw Gong form teaches concepts of preventing the grapple, and breaking free of grapples. Also teaches linear and pivoting footwork to control opponent when grappling.

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    One of the cool things about mantis is that it is good at close quarters in-fighting. Even though it's not necessarily a clinch, and this clip comes from a comedy film, the movements at :30 seconds show a sequence of using a mantis hook to control and attack the head from the outside, it's countered so there's a quick transition using what I'll loosely translate in English as an intercepting hand (cantonese spelling? Tu Sau) which transitions to a hook hand and attacking the head from the other side.

    https://youtu.be/c6-E3BUgtNc?t=30s

    This would be an example of using mantis in close and using it to stay to the "life gate" outside opponent's lead arm to prevent a clinch, while simultaneously attacking. The sequence is quick - it's from approximately :30 second mark to :34 second mark.
    Last edited by MightyB; 02-08-2017 at 07:50 AM. Reason: defining the 4 seconds of the sequence in the video that's relevant to this conversation

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