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    #metoo (An Open Secret: Hollywood - Please Watch)

    With all the news lately of Harvey Weinstein, Bill Cosby, etc., it's absolutely amazing that THIS is flying so far under the radar in the mainstream media. Hollywood'd pedophilia problem is a subject that even all the people who are now speaking up about the Harvey Weinsteins of the world have been steering clear of. Yet what's happening here is AT LEAST as bad as what Weinstein, Cosby, and countless others who target adult women have been and are doing. The dark side of the entertainment industry goes far deeper than only a few powerful men exploiting adult women. Until people stop seeing this as just a women's issue, it will continue to proliferate and go unaddressed in the mainstream media.

    When Barbara Walters criticized Corey Feldman for coming out about this problem, she was essentially trying to bury what he was revealing. Barbara Walters showed that she is part of the problem (and firmly ensconced into the 'system'). Had he been a woman coming out about a Harvey Weinstein, she probably would have reacted differently, even if only to APPEAR more PC. If this issue of harassment/molestation in the entertainment industry is to be addressed, it needs to be addressed in its entirety.



    *Reposted vid, because original link was taken off of YouTube.

    **Oh, look: it's been taken off of YouTube again. Surprise, surprise. Well, if anyone is interested, rather than constantly reposting the documentary, check YouTube for it. It gets put up, gets removed, then pops up again.
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    I am surprised that ANYONE is surprised by how corrupt Hollywood is. *cough* Roman Polanski *cough*

    What is actually moist shocking to me ( it isn't really) is all these people coming out now.
    They are NOT naming names ( which means the perpetrators are still doing this, right NOW).
    Most of these women have been in positions of power for years now and COULD have done something sooner and one reels at the though ot HOW MANY other women have suffered because these women that COULD have done something sooner, did nothing, said nothing.
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    Politics is worse...

    ...only the interns aren't as hot as up-and-coming actresses.

    And then there's Seagal.
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    IMO, with the exception of murder, there is nothing worse than pedophilia, including in the entertainment industry. Read up about what Judy Garland experienced in her career, including on the set of The Wizard of Oz. Even Shirley Temple had said that an MGM producer exposed himself to her in his office when she was still a child. Adult women still have a choice and a degree of personal power in pursuing a career in entertainment; a child doesn't have that power or choice.

    In a way, I can understand why some would not come forward or name names. I can imagine that some of the actors/actresses/singers, etc., who reportedly died from ODing or 'suicide' may have been 'silenced' by powerful people. Or their lives could have otherwise been made a living hell. Personally, I would have quit and walked away from such a career forever if that had ever happened to me, but then again, it didn't and I'm not in that position. Hollywood has a habit of standing by its molesters (like Polanski), except in cases where the overwhelming preponderance of evidence becomes too much, as in Weinstein's case. There is indeed safety in numbers.
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    Greetings,

    Thank you, Jimbo, for stepping forward with this thread.

    Sex abuse and its varied manifestations exist big time in this country.

    I get the feeling that Corey Feldman is getting bankrolled by the people who abused him to not name names. I watched "An Open Secret" with so many different arm postures. It was that uncomfortable to watch. The biggest disappointment was the judge. It was like she did not understand what a precedent is and how important it is for a precedent to be established for situations like those shared to receive proper justice. She just bailed out on those children. It was sad.

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    Hi, mickey. I don't know if Corey Feldman is being bankrolled (I personally don't think he is), but I do think he's being smart about it. At this point, he's a David going against a VERY big Goliath. Unlike the harassment/abuse of women, pedophilia is still a big no-no subject that nobody wants to deal with. Feldman is probably still around because he hasn't named names.

    As far as the Harvey Weinstein thing, I don't believe Meryl Streep when she says she was unaware of Weinstein's reputation around women. She's a big-time (and long-time) A-lister. You don't get to that level in Hollywood without some awareness of what's going on in your industry, especially with a bigwig like Weinstein, even if he hadn't done anything to her. The Hollywood entertainment industry is actually a small community.

    Here's something from today. Although Bill O'Reilly has abused women, not children (as far as anyone knows), in his own words alone he shows that he's a perfect example of an abusive psychopath:

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    Greetings Jimbo,

    O'Reilly seems to speak from the perspective of being an abusee who later became an abuser. He seems to speak of being an abuser to his children. That went over the reporters' heads because they were not looking for that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mickey View Post
    Greetings Jimbo,

    O'Reilly seems to speak from the perspective of being an abusee who later became an abuser. He seems to speak of being an abuser to his children. That went over the reporters' heads because they were not looking for that.

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    Hi, mickey. I don't know if O'Reilly was ever abused or not (and frankly don't care), but as far as his reference to his kids, it seems to me he means that his being outed as a sexual harasser has had a negative effect on his kids (perhaps being bullied or ostracized at school because of who their dad is, or seeing their dad in a negative light). In other words, everything negative that's happening in his (and his family's) life as a result of his abusing women is everyone else's (including God's) fault. It's a pathetic attempt to throw guilt onto his victims and anyone else who isn't on his side. Typical psychopath/sociopath; never takes responsibility for his actions that result in negativity for himself.

    He says he had no protection. If anything, he's had too much protection. Like all these abusers in power, up 'til recently he's been like Teflon. I always knew that O'Reilly was a scumbag, but I never thought he would ever be ousted from his position.
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    Cringeworthy pic

    Here’s Steven Seagal putting his hand on 16-year-old Katherine Heigl’s breast
    In News by Drew Salisbury / October 24, 2017



    There’s no shortage of creeps in Hollywood, as the last few weeks have made abundantly clear (if you weren’t already well aware, that is). While trying to crown the worst abuser in Tinseltown would be an endeavor akin to identifying the smelliest turd floating around in a Porta John, audio recordings uncovered Monday by the Daily Mail (and years of documented gross behavior) make a strong case for samurai-cum-******* Steven Seagal.

    While it has circulated for some time and was even pointed out in an April 2017 episode of “Jimmy Kimmel Live!”, a reader brought our attention to the above photo of Seagal with a then-barely 16-year-old Katherine Heigl promoting “Under Siege 2.”

    Heigl turned 16 while filming the movie, which was also her big-screen debut. Here’s how she described the 43-year-old Seagal’s behavior on the set to Kimmel (emphasis ours):
    The last day of shooting, and again, I had just turned 16 on this movie. And he said, ‘You know Katie, I got girlfriends your age.’ And I said, ‘Isn’t that illegal?’ And he said, ‘They don’t seem to mind.’ And I said, ‘Mom!’ I’m not making that up.
    While Heigl seemed to laugh off the incident years later (or perhaps more accurately, as she tellingly put it, “block it out”), it’s wild to think that this was (and continues to be!) considered acceptable behavior. Seagal was photographed putting his hand a teenage girl’s breast in 1995, and I can guarantee you not a single word was probably written about it. Even just months ago, Kimmel was mining it for laughs. That’s pretty ****ed up!

    Heigl told Kimmel despite everything she still “loved” Seagal — a performance worthy of an Emmy if I ever saw one, and very possibly driven by anxiety about hurting her career. It wouldn’t be the first time talking about sexism and misogyny in the industry got her branded as “difficult.”


    [screenshot: Jimmy Kimmel Live!]

    Seagal & Hollywood's Open Secret
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    Thanks, Gene, I hadn't known about that. I guess Seagal, in addition to abusing women, is a pedophile.

    Here's something I now remember from the Oscars a few years ago, but had forgotten, because back then I was only vaguely aware of the name 'Harvey Weinstein' in association with The Weinstein Company and their Dragon Dynasty DVDs, like their Shaw Brothers releases. It turns out that MacFarlane's 'joke' was actually meant as a very real jab at Weinstein. That the celebrity audience laughed as they did shows that Weinstein's misbehavior towards women was well-known among Hollywood's elite.

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    Kevin Spacey...


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    If this could happen to an adult Terry Crews, it could happen to anybody.


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    It's now clear that the terrible Rush Hour franchise was far from director Brett Ratner's worst sin. The video is concise, but the article I linked right below goes into more accounts with much more detail.

    http://www.latimes.com/business/holl...htmlstory.html



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    Julianna Margulies

    More are coming forward against Seagal. Wonder when legal action might commence...if ever...

    Julianna Margulies Recalls "Horrific" Hotel Room Meeting With Steven Seagal
    8:52 AM PDT 11/4/2017 by Meena Jang


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    The 'Good Wife' actress shared she also drew the ire of Harvey Weinstein when she refused to enter his hotel suite alone after learning from her experience with Seagal.

    Julianna Margulies on Friday morning spoke candidly about her harrowing experience with Steven Seagal during a visit to Sirius XM's Just Jenny.

    Speaking to host Jenny Hutt, the former Good Wife star revealed she narrowly escaped a hotel room meeting with Seagal, who has been accused of sexual harassment by multiple women, before things could take a turn for the worse. Margulies, then 23 years old, said she was persuaded to meet the actor late at night by a female casting director who insisted he wanted to go over a scene.

    "I lived in Brooklyn, and I said, 'Oh, I don't do that. I don't travel. I don't have money for a cab.' And I didn't," Margulies recalled. "And she says, 'Don't worry, we'll reimburse you.'"

    The actress claims Seagal was armed with a gun when she arrived.

    "I got to the hotel around 10:40, and she [the casting director] wasn't there. And he was alone and he made sure that I saw his gun, which I had never seen a gun in real life," Margulies continued. "I got out of there unscathed. … I never was raped, and I never was harmed. I don't know how I got out of that hotel room."

    Margulies told Hutt she felt she had been "set up" by the casting director, and learned from the experience that she should never go into private meetings alone.

    The actress added, "Because of my experience with Steven Seagal in that room, which was horrific, I refused to meet Harvey Weinstein in his hotel room when another woman brought me, saying, 'You will absolutely get [a] screen test.'"

    On a separate occasion, Margulies claimed the film mogul, whose accusers now total over 70, attempted to lure her to his suite at the Peninsula Beverly Hills through a female assistant to discuss a film role she had auditioned for.

    "She said, 'I'm going to drop you off at the Peninsula,' and I said, 'I'm not going up there alone.' I saw how she started to sweat. She was like, 'Don't be silly, I'm just going to drop you off. It's going to be fine.' And I said, 'Nope, then I'm going home,"" the actress recalled.

    When the assistant reluctantly agreed to escort Margulies up to Weinstein's room, he opened the door in a bathrobe.

    "I could see that there were candles lit in the room, and there was a dinner for two. And I saw him stare at her, daggers. And I turned to see what she had done to deserve that, and I caught her in a shrug, like, 'What could I do?'" said the actress. "He looked at me, furious, and he took the door and he said, 'Just wanted to say, "great audition."' And he slammed the door. Of course, I didn't get the part."

    Margulies admitted that if she hadn't experienced that initial meeting with Seagal and didn't have an established career at the time, "I would've gone in, absolutely."

    The actress slammed the notion of victim-shaming, saying, "It's not to be shrugged off."

    Turning the focus to women who enable men to abuse their power, Margulies noted, "It's not always the men that are awful. … We have to start holding these people accountable."


    Seagal & Hollywood's Open Secret
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