RIP David Carradine

[Ben Gash]

David Carradine has died aged 72.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/8083479.stm

[lkfmdc]

Forgive me, really, but while a loss to his family, and RIP and condolances, yet another part of me says "thank G'd, at least he won't be riding the kung fu wagon any longer"

People seem to forget that when he got the role in the original Kung Fu show he said "hey, I'm just an actor, and I don't believe or practice any of this crap, it's just a role"

Then, on hard times, he became "mr kung fu"

[David Jamieson]

http://abclocal.go.com/wabc/story?section=news/entertainment&id=6847033

rip grasshopper

[Mr Punch]

Forgive me, really, but while a loss to his family, and RIP and condolances, yet another part of me says "thank G'd, at least he won't be riding the kung fu wagon any longer"

People seem to forget that when he got the role in the original Kung Fu show he said "hey, I'm just an actor, and I don't believe or practice any of this crap, it's just a role"

Then, on hard times, he became "mr kung fu"Yeah, but like it or not, he was still responsible for raising awareness of kung fu for a lot of people! Oh, wait a minute... so he was responsible for the watering down and bull$hitizing of modern kung fu? What an a55hole! :D

Er, I mean, RIP. :o

[MasterKiller]

BANGKOK (AP) -- Actor David Carradine, star of the 1970s TV series "Kung Fu" who also had a wide-ranging career in the movies, has been found dead in the Thai capital, Bangkok.

A spokesman for the U.S. Embassy, Michael Turner, confirmed the death of the 72-year-old actor. He says Carradine died either late Wednesday or early Thursday, but he could not provide further details out of consideration for his family.

The Web site of the newspaper The Nation cited unidentified police sources as saying Carradine was found Thursday hanged in his luxury hotel room and is believed to have committed suicide.
Carradine was a leading member of a venerable Hollywood acting family that included his father, character actor John Carradine, and brother Keith.

[sanjuro_ronin]

The man struggled with some demons, that's for sure.
RIP.

[The Willow Sword]

You know i have a real hard time buying into that horsesh!t. I guess we will never know since he was in Bangkok thailand and found Hung in a hotel room. i mean maybe i am in denial but it just doesnt seem plausable. Anyway, i think its a real bummer. I was and still am a Fan of Carradine,despite LKFmdouchebag's comments.
i feel we have lost a hollywood icon and i am bummed about it.
RIP Mr carradine, was a pleasure to get to talk with you when i did all those years ago.

Peace, TWS

[lkfmdc]

I figures someone who does fake kung fu would love the guy who started the fake kung fu trend :rolleyes:

willow, go **** yourself :D

[sanjuro_ronin]

At times like this I tend to remember people in a personal way:
Movie wise, he was cool in Kill bill.
TV wise, Kung fu was at best OK and Kung Fu the legend continues was horrific !
Now, on a real personal note, I had the pleasure of escorting him out of 2 night clubs in my time as a bouncer, he was a mean drunk and BOTH times took a swing at me, LOL !
The last time he said, "Hey, I know you, you threw me out last time, mother****er!"

Priceless !
:D

[sanjuro_ronin]

'Kill Bill' star Carradine found dead




BANGKOK (AP) -- Actor David Carradine, star of the 1970s TV series "Kung Fu" who also had a wide-ranging career in the movies, has been found dead in the Thai capital, Bangkok. A news report said he was found hanged in his hotel room and was believed to have committed suicide.

A spokesman for the U.S. Embassy, Michael Turner, confirmed the death of the 72-year-old actor. He said Carradine died either late Wednesday or early Thursday, but he could not provide further details out of consideration for his family.

The Web site of the Thai newspaper The Nation cited unidentified police sources as saying Carradine was found Thursday hanged in his luxury hotel room and is believed to have committed suicide.

Carradine was a leading member of a venerable Hollywood acting family that included his father, character actor John Carradine, and brother Keith.

In all, he appeared in more than 100 feature films with such directors as Martin Scorsese, Ingmar Bergman and Hal Ashby.

But he was best known for his role as Kwai Chang Caine, a Shaolin priest traveling the 1800s American frontier West in the TV series "Kung Fu," which aired in 1972-75.


He reprised the role in a mid-1980s TV movie and played Caine's grandson in the 1990s syndicated series "Kung Fu: The Legend Continues."

He returned to the top in recent years as the title character in Quentin Tarantino's two-part saga "Kill Bill."

[KC Elbows]

At times like this I tend to remember people in a personal way:
Movie wise, he was cool in Kill bill.
TV wise, Kung fu was at best OK and Kung Fu the legend continues was horrific !
Now, on a real personal note, I had the pleasure of escorting him out of 2 night clubs in my time as a bouncer, he was a mean drunk and BOTH times took a swing at me, LOL !
The last time he said, "Hey, I know you, you threw me out last time, mother****er!"

Priceless !
:D

Not to take this off topic, but Bill Mummy kicked the crap out of a guy in a bar I used to go to in my home town, had cowboy boots on and really gave it to the guy. Not gonna go down as a high point in technical fighting history, but the guy he kicked the crap out of has forever been "the guy who got his ass kicked by the kid from lost in space."

[The Willow Sword]

I guess you have memory issues and that's fine, its typical of your ilk. I dont do the fake kung fu anymore and havent done it since 2003. long since evolved out of that BS. New path and a new way of doing things, however i still dont take sh!t from guys like you who, i might add, has gotten into more dumbfukery on these boards than i ever will.

As for hanging on Carradine, i could really care LESS about his ideology over the years regarding kung fu and such, i am always entertained by actors but never influenced by them. I will say that he defineately sparked my first interests in kung fu. loved the series. However if i were to really say who in the realm of film really got me going into the martial arts it would have to be Bruce lee and Jacky chan. As for influences it has always been Sensei Ueshiba Moreihai and his writings.

Anyway,,just an FYI for those who may be still locked into the past. Good to see the boards again.

Peace,TWS

[norther practitioner]

RIP carradine...


While I don't like most of what he did, there is no denying he became an icon for the arts.

[Zhang Yong Chun]

David Carradine did a lot for the perception of the martial arts in the West. If nothing else, he was one who presented them as a vehicle for growth and as a last resort when faced with injustice.

He was, like many actors before him, typecast after this role, but if you see him in movies such as Kill Bill, part 2; he was quite an actor.

Rest In Peace, Mr. Carradine. Rest in Peace.

[TenTigers]

Well, at least Bruce Lee's spirit can now rest peacefully....
RIP.
oh, and RIP David C too.

[lkfmdc]

I guess you have memory issues



no, apparently YOU have memory issues because you seem to forget that Carradine TRASHED Chinese martial arts for DECADES until he couldn't get a job and then suddenly became a kung fu master, selling horrible tai chi video tapes

"hey, screw you, you're ugly, you're dumb, I hate you, but can you lend me some money?" :rolleyes:

His videos, his second KF show, his books were all insulting to anyone who did real CMA and to anyone with a brain

He was an opportunist who jumped on a bandwagon but I guess he was right because idiots like you love him for it :rolleyes:




I dont do the fake kung fu anymore



LMFAO

[KC Elbows]

In fairness, David Carradine is not at fault for stealing a role from Bruce Lee. Hollywood had been using westerners to play different ethnic groups for decades before, and their view, which was probably accurate, was that their audience wasn't willing to fork out cash for genuine articles.

Now, we're enlightened. This occurred when Tom Cruise saved the Samurai.

Somewhere, there's a really talented Australian who doesn't want to play the bad guy in a Jackie Chan flick.:D

[lkfmdc]

This occurred when Tom Cruise saved the Samurai.



"the last samurai; how a short gay scientologist taught Japan the meaning of Budo! Coming to a theatre near you soon!"

[Zhang Yong Chun]

In fairness, David Carradine is not at fault for stealing a role from Bruce Lee. Hollywood had been using westerners to play different ethnic groups for decades before, and their view, which was probably accurate, was that their audience wasn't willing to fork out cash for genuine articles.

Now, we're enlightened. This occurred when Tom Cruise saved the Samurai.

Somewhere, there's a really talented Australian who doesn't want to play the bad guy in a Jackie Chan flick.:D

I don't normally agree with Steven Segal, but Tom Cruise's casting was a bit much. :rolleyes:

Despite David Carradine's faults, the Kung Fu tv show introduced to the American public a Chinese hero who was a pacifist, but not a coward, introduced the entire concept of the Shaolin Temple to millions of people who had never heard of it before, and spurred an interest in the martial arts that millions of people benefited from.

In early seventies, after Bruce Lee, David Carradine did a lot to inspire kids to find a teacher, join a class, and train.

His tv show, and his role in the movie, the Silent Flute, also helped keep traditional Chinese martial arts and philosophy in the public eye and helped keep memories of Bruce Lee alive.

Let that be a part of his legacy. As for everything else, it's all over with now.

[1bad65]

FoxNews is also saying he was found hanging.

"A Thailand newspaper, The Nation, reported the 72-year-old actor was found hanging."

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,525069,00.html

[TenTigers]

I agree except with the part about his role in The Silent Flute. Again taking credit for not only the role, but in Bruce Lee's own story and idea. There is a special place in h3ll for people like him. He will be joined by others of his ilk, such as Roger Moore.

[Jim Roselando]

Actor David Carradine found deadStory Highlights

David Carradine's personal manager says actor's body found in a Bangkok hotel

Carradine became famous in the 1970s after starring in the TV series "Kung Fu"

Carradine, 72, was also known as "Bill" in Quentin Tarantino's "Kill Bill" films

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(CNN) -- American actor David Carradine has been found dead in a Bangkok, Thailand, hotel, according to his personal manager, Chuck Binder.


David Carradine became famous in the 1970s after starring in the television series "Kung Fu."

Binder said Thursday that the death is being investigated but could provide no other details.

Carradine's death was "shocking and sad. He was full of life, always wanting to work ... a great person," Binder said, according to People magazine.

Carradine, who became famous in the 1970s when he starred as traveling Shaolin monk Kwai Chang Caine in the television series "Kung Fu," was 72.

Modern audiences may best know him as "Bill" in Quentin Tarantino's "Kill Bill" films. He earned a 2005 Golden Globe nomination for his role in the second movie in the two-part saga. iReport: Share memories of David Carradine

His career included more than 100 feature films, two dozen television movies and theater work, according to the Internet Movie Database.

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He was the son of actor John Carradine, a character actor who had appeared in hundreds of films, plays and television episodes.

"David's career as an artist did not begin on the stage, though some of his early career was on and off Broadway. His earliest work was as a sculptor and painter," Carradine's official Web site says.

[Mas Judt]

Not to take this off topic, but Bill Mummy kicked the crap out of a guy in a bar I used to go to in my home town, had cowboy boots on and really gave it to the guy. Not gonna go down as a high point in technical fighting history, but the guy he kicked the crap out of has forever been "the guy who got his ass kicked by the kid from lost in space."

Ha! way back in the dark ages, Bill Mumy and Miguel Ferrer spotted lunch for me and a couple comic book artists. Nicest guy I ever met, totally unaffected by the industry. Many actors/actresses are tough to handle, they are so narcissistic, paranoid and well, stupid. But not Bill Mumy, smart guy, nice guy, well mannered and now... an a$$ kicker.

Right on.

[Mas Judt]

I hate to bring this up, but it is either a tragedy - he lost his will to live or, typical of Hollywood - it is auto-erot!c asphyxiation.

Wonder what the Vegas odds are?

[BrokenTitanium]

wow, R.I.P.

[KC Elbows]

Ha! way back in the dark ages, Bill Mumy and Miguel Ferrer spotted lunch for me and a couple comic book artists. Nicest guy I ever met, totally unaffected by the industry. Many actors/actresses are tough to handle, they are so narcissistic, paranoid and well, stupid. But not Bill Mumy, smart guy, nice guy, well mannered and now... an a$$ kicker.

Right on.

Yeah, normally, when a star gets in a fraccas, people talk about their temper. But in this case, everyone knew the other guy was a jerk. And when you look like Bill Mummy and you kick the crap out of someone, you deserve props.

And in interviews, he's always been a class act.

[herb ox]

Not to make light of a sad situation, but Thai police said they found Carradine with a rope around his neck and other parts of his body, with a preliminary investigation citing suicide by the actor. From the BBC:

"Thai police told the BBC the 72-year-old was found by a hotel maid sitting in a wardrobe with a cord around his neck and other parts of his body."

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/entertainment/8083479.stm

Shocking and sad. While we all had our varying opinions of the man who played Kwai Chang Caine for so many years, he was undoubtedly an influential character in the development of Shaolin Kungfu in the western world.

May your soul find peace in the afterlife, David.

herb ox

[Baqualin]

RIP and condolences to his family!!!

To be honest though I couldn't stand the man.... even in Kill Bill I thought he was a D!ck.....just the thought of Sanjuro tossing him out the door puts a smile on my face:) After he came out with the Tai Chi tapes....well lets put it this way...even a Shaolin Taco knows crap when he sees it:eek:
BQ

PS
If he did hang himself, well that's the chicken sh!t way out.

[SPJ]

1. about KF series.

I only saw a few episodes of the first season, then it was banned in Taiwan.

only recently, did I view the whole series from DVD I bought from barnes and nobles.

2. roles/characters and the actor that play them

usually, there are no connections. even though people tend to equate the both.

last samurai was an American army soldier and not TOM CRUISE.

Kuai Chain is a figurative figure and NOT David C.

The backdrops and Kung Fu series played by David C did have impacts as pointed out.

--

Sad.

RIP.

:(

[herb ox]

This just in - David Carradine was found dead in his hotel room in Thailand. See this thread in the Wing Chun forum for emerging details:

http://martial.securesites.net/forum/showthread.php?t=54143

herb ox

[BoulderDawg]

Shame! The man had his faults but he was a talented actor and promoted KF in the US.

about five years ago I met David and his son (I believe) at a convention. He was aloof and didn't really seem like he wanted to be there. That's okay.....some of us are just like that.

[GeneChing]

I met David Carradine several years ago at ABA, the year before Spirit of Shaolin was released (the web says that was '91, and I was at ABA in '90, so that seems about right). He signed a blad for me. I still have that somewhere.

Last summer, I did an phone interview with Carradine for David Carradine in Spike TV's KUNG FU KILLER (http://ezine.kungfumagazine.com/ezine/article.php?article=779). I called him at home and I could tell he was doing a lot of interviews that day. He sounded pretty relaxed and I could hear his dog barking in the background. At one point, we had to stop for him to quiet his dog down. We spoke for 45 minutes or so. After the interview, I went to lunch. When I got back, Carradine had left a message on my answering machine. He had become confused with his interview schedule and was calling to ask why I hadn't called. For some curious reason, I saved that message in my voicemail. It's still there. I'll listen to it later today and remember him.

I've had my personal issues with Carradine's work for years. Being Amerasian, Caine was like a minstrel show for me. However, I still will cite Kung Fu sometimes when I'm explaining Shaolin to people of my generation who know nothing about martial arts. There really wasn't any show ever quite like that original series - not just in the sense of timing (when Nixon helped open China) but also in the sense of how to move a story arc for television (the flashback motif). Love him or hate him, he is one of our pop icons and no matter how much you feel the need to speak ill of the dead, Carradine will be remembered by pop culture as one of the American pioneers in martial arts.

[solo1]

I watched "Kung Fu" as a kid and loved it. Became interested in everything Chinese because of it. Carridine introduced Kung Fu to the states, sure in a very watered down form but nonetheless i dont think we can argue the impact the show and he had.


RIP Grasshopper.

[solo1]

I met David Carradine several years ago at ABA, the year before Spirit of Shaolin was released (the web says that was '91, and I was at ABA in '90, so that seems about right). He signed a blad for me. I still have that somewhere.

Last summer, I did an phone interview with Carradine for David Carradine in Spike TV's KUNG FU KILLER (http://ezine.kungfumagazine.com/ezine/article.php?article=779). I called him at home and I could tell he was doing a lot of interviews that day. He sounded pretty relaxed and I could hear his dog barking in the background. At one point, we had to stop for him to quiet his dog down. We spoke for 45 minutes or so. After the interview, I went to lunch. When I got back, Carradine had left a message on my answering machine. He had become confused with his interview schedule and was calling to ask why I hadn't called. For some curious reason, I saved that message in my voicemail. It's still there. I'll listen to it later today and remember him.

I've had my personal issues with Carradine's work for years. Being Amerasian, Caine was like a minstrel show for me. However, I still will cite Kung Fu sometimes when I'm explaining Shaolin to people of my generation who know nothing about martial arts. There really wasn't any show ever quite like that original series - not just in the sense of timing (when Nixon helped open China) but also in the sense of how to move a story arc for television (the flashback motif). Love him or hate him, he is one of our pop icons and no matter how much you feel the need to speak ill of the dead, Carradine will be remembered by pop culture as one of the American pioneers in martial arts.

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Well said.

[lkfmdc]

Don't worry Gene, I speak ill of the living as well :D

[doug maverick]

i met DC something like 6 years ago......he had this crazy story as to how the kung fu series came about it was almost laughable...but he was a great actor, and had alot of interesting things to say....had dinner with him later that night and we had a long discourse about films movies and martial arts...when his kill bill diary came out he sent me an autographed copy of it...so Rest In Peace david, you were an ******* but you were a great *******....

[mickey]

Greetings,

Carradine, despite all of his problems did not seem like a suicide type of guy. I hope more info is provided about this. It just does not feel right.

mickey

PS: If it comes out that somebody topped him really good, I'd believe it. :)

[GreenCloudCLF]

When tae-bo was big he came out with a video called "Cardio Tai Chi" It was the biggest abortion of a video ever. Guy was a di(k. Perhaps all his lying about the MA finally caught up with him and he felt guilty....or else Shannon Lee got to him.

[Hendrik]

May David lead by Amitaba Buddha to the land of Bliss.

[firepalm]

It's certainly sad for the family especially considering the circumstances, but I don't think Carradine deserves any special recognition for his 'role' in the CMA community but you know IKF and others are going to heap praise on the man & his 'legacy'. I don't care for it but he is a part of the western CMA historical landscape, unfortunately.

While the TV show Kung Fu was a landmark, Carradine was just an actor and his gaining the role in the Kung Fu series was evidence of Hollywood's sometimes not so subtle racism. Which still exists today, a Caucasian playing Goku! Jackie Chan inspite of his world wide success long before Hollywood is never given actual leading roles in his Hollywood films he's always buddied up with crap actors like Chris Tucker. Carradine was not the first in terms of Caucasians playing Asian roles but sadly the first in the landmark Kung Fu TV series role.

My opinion Carradine's family deserves some respect, he is little more then a footnote in the western world CMA landscape. :cool:

[doug maverick]

according to his agent he died of natural causes and the hotel person who found him is lying......dont know whats going on or who to believe..but if david carradine would kill himself i believe he was have used a bottle of bourbon and a gun.not hang himself...say what you want about his was not p ussy...

[TaiChiBob]

Greetings..

Journey well, DC.. and, may those that speak ill of the dead soon follow..

I read the obit, and.. with stunning predictability Ross displays his mindless attention seeking commentary.. muzzle that cur, Gene..

[sanjuro_ronin]

according to his agent he died of natural causes and the hotel person who found him is lying......dont know whats going on or who to believe..but if david carradine would kill himself i believe he was have used a bottle of bourbon and a gun.not hang himself...say what you want about his was not p ussy...

I hope that is correct, suicide is a horrific thing for ones family to bear.
I agree, DC was certainly not a ***** from what I remember.
Sure he had issues with the bottle it seems, we ALL have inner demons that we fight with, but he was also on heck of a joker from what I gather,

I hope, for the sake of his family, it was natural causes.

[sanjuro_ronin]

Well...it seems that ....


BANGKOK -- Actor David Carradine, a born seeker and cult idol who broke through as the willing student called "grasshopper" in the 1970s TV series "Kung Fu" and decades later as leader of an assassin squad in "Kill Bill," was found dead Thursday in Thailand. Police said he appeared to have hanged himself.

The officer responsible for investigating the death, Teerapop Luanseng, said the 72-year-old actor was staying at a suite at the luxury Swissotel Nai Lert Park Hotel.

"I can confirm that we found his body, naked, hanging in the closet," Teerapop said. He said police suspected suicide.

A spokesman for the U.S. Embassy, Michael Turner, said the embassy was informed by Thai authorities that Carradine died either late Wednesday or early Thursday, but he could not provide further details out of consideration for his family...

[kwaichang]

Good or Bad David Carradine is a human being if you like him or not. Those of you who are being disrespectful probably do not realise the impact he had on alot of people studying "kung fu". Those of you who are stateing derogatory things should be barred from this forum as you know nothing about the true meaning of MA. While I believe in fredom of speech those of you who are spouting off probably did not personally know him at all. I started training after seeing the show Kung Fu and still watch it occasionally for fun. The Philosophy of what Kwai Chang stood for over rides the bad that you believe he did. If this is suicide then I am Bruce Lee. You A$$e$ that are disrespectful to the dead will end up the same way some day with no one to be there when you die. KC:(

[GreenCloudCLF]

Well...it seems that ....

Self-Erotic asphyxiation?

[MightyB]

Suicide at 72 - that's like jumping out of line just before you're the next person to be served at Mickey D's.

[KC Elbows]

Yes, there was and is racism in Hollywood.

BUT...

I have never seen a single Chinese movie that had a non-Chinese in a leading role.

It's the same everywhere, and Hollywood is hardly the worst.

Which has zero to do With David Carradine. He did not cast himself. Bruce Lee was wasting his time being mad at him, but we're all human.

I wonder if this is a case of "don't drink alone."

[doug maverick]

naked and hanging......now it souns even more suspect...me suspects foul play....

[kwaichang]

Thai Mafia Triad etc etc. I wonder if the door to the closet was opened or closed ?? KC

[David Jamieson]

naked and hanging......now it souns even more suspect...me suspects foul play....

seems more like death by misadventure to me.

he was a gregarious chap after all and likely was trying out some sexual activity and wound up dead.

this is how the former singer for inxs died as well.

auto-erotic asphyxiation.

very plausible with a personality like Carradine's

[lkfmdc]

dead by hanging

naked

in a closet

in Thailand

something tells me that soon a young Thai boy will find its way into this picture

(watch Tai Chi Bob cry out in anguish that we aren't respecting the dead)

:rolleyes:

[uki]

if he was anything like sanjuro ronin says, he probably was running his mouth drunk at a bar in town... ****ed a few locals off, they send in a hottie asian chick to lure him into a night of drunken sex and then jump his a$$.. or as that llkdmfky-er.. 432%jh9-99(whatever) SAYS, he found himself a thai boy and then felt so guilty afterwards that he couldn't bare it... if it was triads or who-not, it shows his kung fu was useless, unless of course there is a mound of suppressed evidence that there was a grand struggle with blood stains all over the walls... wonder if his body was bruised and banged up? my gut instincts call foul play in any event - highly unlikely that a movie star of moderate success and money would kill themselves at a 5 star hotel in the middle of a global recession.

[TenTigers]

I may joke, but make no mistake-I am fully aware of the impact his show had on the Western world being exposed to Chinese Martial Arts and philosophy. I was and remain a huge fan of the original series, especially the pilot.
-and for that, he will be sorely missed.
oh, yeah...and Death Race 2000. That alone should erase his karmic debt and reserve him a spot in heaven.

[kwaichang]

If I were part of DC family I would sue LK and Uki for slander. Drag their butts into court until they went broke I wonder about Psychos like you guys who make up stuff like that sounds like your own fantasy you are trying to live through the media here. KC

[uki]

If I were part of DC family I would sue LK and Uki for slander. "i'll sue you" - the great american scheme. :D

Drag their butts into court until they went broke.oh my... how scary... life with no money. i am shivering with fright.

I wonder about Psychos like you guys who make up stuff like that sounds like your own fantasy you are trying to live through the media here.i wonder about people like you who take everything way to personal. just running off the possibilities here... because we all know that ANYTHING is possible, not just the possibilities you want it to be... besides... anything coming from the likes of your philosophical mentality i'll take as a mouthful of mud... its hard to find respect for someone who can't even come up with their own internet name. :p

[lkfmdc]

If I were part of DC family I would sue LK and Uki for slander. Drag their butts into court



fortunately for them, they realize you are not a lawyer, have no idea about law and are a raving nut job

go ahead, sue me for calling you a nut job, you freak :rolleyes:

[kwaichang]

Uki or bruised one or one who is thrown sounds like one defeated to me. To agree with some one makes you like them to feed into LK 's BS makes you no better than him KC One should not speak ill of the dead KC

[kwaichang]

You my friend are just a fat bald"partially" wanna be. No I am no lawyer didnt say I was you are a pervert though. The guilty dog barks first that is why you brought up about the Thai Boy. KC

[lkfmdc]

kwaichang's students should sue him for impersonating a kung fu teacher :rolleyes:

I also think the comments about young boys and closets hit him a little too close to home :p

[kwaichang]

Yes your home LK I saw that vid of you hugging that student of yours , oh yeah you call it clinching I forget. KC:rolleyes:

[lkfmdc]

I just love faceless, nameless, kung fu theatre wannabe's who can't keep up with an argument so all they can say is "no, you are" :rolleyes:

You've been exposed more times than a stripper's ass and yet you come back for more. Thrown out of Shaolin Do, practicing medicine without a license, and weren't you accused of breaking and entering? Maybe you do know somethng about the law, ie being on the wrong side of it!

[kwaichang]

Wrong guy a$$ get your facts 1st then open youir big mouth KC

[lkfmdc]

which wrong facts?

you won't give your name, you claim to be a "shaolin temple" :rolleyes: You claim to be a "hitman" :rolleyes:

your screen name screams "cheese"

you can't keep up with the conversation and fall back on the lamest of non-insults

like I said, you're a loser.. and probably a ****phobe because you've been screaming at the top of your lungs now for quite a few posts

really, I understand the internet is your best outlet for your fantasy land lifestyle, but understand that some of us are going to tell you straight

can't deal with it? -------> the closet is over that way, find some sturdy rope

[uki]

Uki or bruised one or one who is thrown sounds like one defeated to me. what sounds did you hear? this tiger is not defeated in any sense of the word. :)

To agree with some one makes you like them to feed into LK 's BS makes you no better than him KC One should not speak ill of the dead KCwhere did i agree with him? i am simply musing on his own thoughts of the matter... you really should get your comprehension of english grammar upto par so that you can fully clairfy what you read in peoples posts. :)

[Lokhopkuen]

Greetings..

Journey well, DC.. and, may those that speak ill of the dead soon follow..

I read the obit, and.. with stunning predictability Ross displays his mindless attention seeking commentary.. muzzle that cur, Gene..

Well said :D

[doug maverick]

like i said you ever meet or speak to this man ytou would know he is not the type to kill himself....some bull**** is happening. i smell it...



The attorney who wed Kill Bill star David Carradine and his wife Annie at pal Michael Madsen's home is calling on the media not to jump to conclusions about the actor's sudden death.

Carradine, 72, was found dead in a hotel room in Bangkok, Thailand, where he was shooting a new movie, and initial reports suggest he hanged himself.

The actor's manager, Chuck Binder, insists Carradine died of natural causes, but police officials insist a hotel maid had found Carradine dead in a wardrobe with a rope around his neck and body on Thursday morning.

The late star's longtime attorney and friend, Vicki Roberts, who conducted the actor's fifth wedding ceremony in December 2004, is hoping the truth will prove Carradine did not commit suicide.

She tells WENN, "I would also hope that there would be a full investigation before any conclusions are drawn."

Roberts adds, "I have known David Carradine and his wife Annie for many, many years and I was honoured to have performed their marriage ceremony in 2004 at the home of Michael Madsen. My deepest condolences go out to Annie and the family.

[uki]

can't deal with it? -------> the closet is over that way, find some sturdy ropei love it... so cold it's comical. :D

[lkfmdc]

Well said :D

hey! Hitler, Stalin, Pol Pot and Vlad the impaler are all dead, but let's not speak ill of them :rolleyes:

[KC Elbows]

Lkfmdc, is there a waiting list to get you to write an obit, or is it first come first serve?

[Lokhopkuen]

hey! Hitler, Stalin, Pol Pot and Vlad the impaler are all dead, but let's not speak ill of them :rolleyes:

LOL! Ross you are something else.....

[KC Elbows]

LOL! Ross you are something else.....

Had it been a closet in Scotland, he'd be the first to post the sheep pics.

[lkfmdc]

Lkfmdc, is there a waiting list to get you to write an obit, or is it first come first serve?

Gene has paid me NOT to write his! :D

[Lokhopkuen]

Had it been a closet in Scotland, he'd be the first to post the sheep pics.

Man when I pass I hope my name never makes it to this forum or I'll be spinning in my grave:eek:

Hey KC maybe I'll hit you up next I'm in KC:D

[KC Elbows]

Gene has paid me NOT to write his! :D

"He was slathered in nacho cheese, with telling ninjette footprints all over his back."

Just to clarify, I have a sentimental side for DC, but I figure anyone who played in a lot of westerns wouldn't think things were kosher unless a bunch of SOBs showed up at his wake.

[uki]

i can't wait to see what is written about my ultimate demise...

[SPJ]

my kids actually like Kung Fu tv series.

wow, considering that they were born and raised in the states.

they picked up alot of Daoism and Buddhist things from me of course.

--

however, the flashback was sort of too long and sometimes distracting or too distant in the storylines.

--

the favorite episode was starred by Jodie Foster.

she told the truth--

--

Judo stuff played well with the stories.

--

DC. rest in peace.

my kids remember you.

:(

[SPJ]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wzTxhy1etFE

always tell the truth.

:)

[uki]

i am sure that dave doesn't really give a sh!t what anyone says at this point. :D

[solo1]

Your comments regarding Carradine are some the most vile things I have ever read. Kharma will not let those things go unpunished.

[uki]

Your comments regarding Carradine are some the most vile things I have ever read. wow. do you read much?


Kharma will not let those things go unpunished.listen lassy... karma is my footstool. once you transcend it, you can do whatever you want with it. :)

from ohio... your third post... do you work for the FBI or something? :p

[kwaichang]

Uki and LK must be having their own demons to fight they talk a good game but wouldnt even be teaching were it not for DC. No one has heard of them and they are just jealous of DC because he is not or was not a real Kung fu guy but more know him for it than people know Lk or Uki for what they do. You guys are the ones that brought up about a Thai Boy must be your own guilt speaking here. One should not speak ill of the dead but it just kills you guyas that 2 seconds after you are dead no one will speak of or remember you at all. KC

[Yum Cha]

Pop Icon indeed. Just a man, just a role. Typecast and bitter? Perhaps.

RIP Grasshopper.

[uki]

You A$$e$ that are disrespectful to the dead will end up the same way some day with no one to be there when you die.and who was there when david died? when we die, we won't really give a sh!t now will we? we'll... technically... if we die and our bowels were full, we should "defeciate" ourselves as our last breath expires - this could create a minor mess for those who will have to ultimately clean it up, but in the end, poop from dead bodies washes off with some soap and water. :)

[lkfmdc]

The people I deal with don't give a rat's rear end about Carradine, much of the world has moved on from Carradine and "Kung Fu"

Others still have screen names derived from a 30 year old series :rolleyes:

Kwaichang is the one with personal demons, after all, who is hiding behind a fake screen name, pretending to be a shaolin monk and a hitman? :rolleyes:

and dude, assuming Carradine was guy and like boys, why are you so upset? LIke I said, your own ****phobia rearing its ugly head

[lkfmdc]

I'm pretty sure that if Kwaichang had been in the room, he woud have rolled in Carradine's last bit of feces and reveled in it!

[uki]

Uki and LK must be having their own demons to fight they talk a good game but wouldnt even be teaching were it not for DC. No one has heard of them and they are just jealous of DC because he is not or was not a real Kung fu guy but more know him for it than people know Lk or Uki for what they do. You guys are the ones that brought up about a Thai Boy must be your own guilt speaking here. One should not speak ill of the dead but it just kills you guyas that 2 seconds after you are dead no one will speak of or remember you at all. KCoh sweet jesus you are fuking killing me here... boo-fuuking-hoo... two seconds after i am dead i won't give a rats a$$ what people are saying or not saying about me... people like you are missing your life because you are too concerned on how everyone else is living their lives as if you can measure it up to yours. transparency is called so for a reason... you might want to invest in some window tint. :)

[uki]

The people I deal with don't give a rat's rear endi swear i read this post after i posted my post.

[taai gihk yahn]

Shame! The man had his faults
as do we all; and those personal faults, whatever they were, are not the topic of this discussion; it is his public persona - you know, the fabrication - that is being commented on


but he was a talented actor
are you joking? he was a horrible actor; you're kidding, right?


and promoted KF in the US.
no, he promoted HIMSELF; the kung fu promotion was incidental - it's just the only thing that worked for him over time, because he was not a good enough ACTOR to get any other roles - it's called typecasting, maybe you've heard of it?; why can't you understand that? he was NOT a CMA practitioner, he was an ACTOR playing a CMA practitioner; if he really was serious about CMA, he would have practiced it irrespective of his ACTING;


about five years ago I met David and his son (I believe) at a convention. He was aloof and didn't really seem like he wanted to be there. That's okay.....some of us are just like that.
so, basically, he shows up at a venue where he is supposed to be interacting amicably with fans; but instead he's aloof and acting like he didn't want to be there - and you justify it as ok, because he is "just like that"?!? wow...

as for "disrespecting" the dead - why is ok to reasonably critique someone while he was alive, but now that he's not, it's not ok? that would as logical as saying that someone who was a great CMA-ist while he was alive, but now that he's passed, you can say that he sucked :confused::confused::confused:; truth is truth, alive or dead; if someone wants to be "respected" once they have passed, especially if they base their public persona on it, then they should act in a manner that warrants respect during their life; certainly, it is sad for his family / friends that he is gone, but none of us are his family / friends - we are talking about his public persona, which is what we all knew; and why, now that he is passed, suddenly an honest critique of his public persona is "off limits" is just absurd;

it's those of you who like to jump on the morally indignant bandwagon are the ones who should be ashamed; if you guys want to go lament the passing of a truly worthy CMA practitioner, try the thread for the late Sifu Martello, someone who's true contribution to CMA infinitely exceeded DC's

[kwaichang]

I tire if your attitudes and stupidity. I enjoyed Kung fu so much I started when the show started or was 1st aired. I have continued to this day. without halt. I dont care what you Morons think or say however I will say this I am not phobic of LK so I must not be what he claims I am. As he only knows what he has learned from others greater than him. So you can all GTH KC

[taai gihk yahn]

two seconds after i am dead i won't give a rats a$$ what people are saying or not saying about me...
of course, while still alive, I know that you chew yourself raw when they say something bad about you, right? ;)

anyway, you are 100% correct: when we are gone, what is left to cling to? nothing; we should, instead of projecting about some supposed after-life, use the reality of what is death as a guide for living! live / practice as if our hair was on fire; react to revilement as if one were a corpse! live unabashedly (can I get a yaaaay Ch'an!)

[uki]

as for "disrespecting" the dead - why is ok to reasonably critique someone while he was alive, but now that he's not, it's not ok? that would as logical as saying that someone who was a great CMA-ist while he was alive, but now that he's passed, you can say that he sucked :confused::confused::confused:; truth is truth, alive or dead; if someone wants to be "respected" once they have passed, especially if they base their public persona on it, then they should act in a manner that warrants respect during their life; certainly, it is sad for his family / friends that he is gone, but none of us are his family / friends - we are talking about his public persona, which is what we all knew; and why, now that he is passed, suddenly an honest critique of his public persona is "off limits" is just absurd;ouch!! the truth is hot to those with cold hands.

[golden arhat]

"found the 72-year-old naked in a wardrobe with a cord around his neck a and other parts of his body

wahts stopping them from saying arms legs unless they dont want to mention a certain appendage.......

[uki]

of course, while still alive, I know that you chew yourself raw when they say something bad about you, right?what is bad? :p


anyway, you are 100% correct: when we are gone, what is left to cling to? nothing; we should, instead of projecting about some supposed after-life, use the reality of what is death as a guide for living! live / practice as if our hair was on fire; react to revilement as if one were a corpse! live unabashedly (can I get a yaaaay Ch'an!)HO-HA!

[golden arhat]

I agree except with the part about his role in The Silent Flute. Again taking credit for not only the role, but in Bruce Lee's own story and idea. There is a special place in h3ll for people like him. He will be joined by others of his ilk, such as Roger Moore.

leave moore alone! or any other bonds for that matter
apart from timothy dalton
we do not speak kindly of him

[lkfmdc]

I tire if your attitudes



GREAT! ------> the closet is that way, make sure the rope is thick!




I dont care what you Morons think or say



but yet you rant and rave for pages in response :rolleyes:

dude, you are a pathetic loser and wannabe... do the world a favor, go to the closet, NOW!

[GeneChing]

I'm going to be in transit tonight (http://ezine.kungfumagazine.com/forum/showthread.php?p=939411#post939411), so I won't be able to watch the news...
Meanwhile, you all should chill. This is a stupid place to have a flame war. Since it's a pop thread, it gets more attention and many of you are outing yourselves as asses. That will really suck if the powers that be here see it.


Carradine's death follows Zen-like turnabout (http://www.mercurynews.com/celebrities/ci_12521273)
By DAVID GERMAIN AP Movie Writer
Posted: 06/04/2009 02:52:48 PM PDT
Updated: 06/04/2009 04:35:28 PM PDT

LOS ANGELES—Contrast marked the life of David Carradine, who became a star playing the austere and virtuous warrior Caine on TV's "Kung Fu" even as his personal life was an excess of alcohol and drugs.

After decades as a virtual has-been toiling on the Hollywood fringes, Carradine cleaned himself up, copped a holistic outlook similar to Caine's and revived his career in the "Kill Bill" movies, playing the ruthless patriarch of a den of killers who was a mirror image of his "Kung Fu" character.

Carradine, 72, was found dead Thursday in his luxury hotel room in Thailand, where he had just begun filming a movie. Police said Carradine was found hanged in the closet. It was unclear whether the death was an accident or suicide.

"Endless Highway," Carradine's 1995 autobiography, opens with the actor recounting how he tried to hang himself at age 5 by jumping off the bumper of the family Duesenberg. Carradine notes that his father, actor John Carradine, saved him, then confiscated his comic-book collection and burned it.

Tiffany Smith, one of the actor's managers, said she and her colleagues doubted reports that Carradine killed himself.

"All we can say is, we know David would never have committed suicide. We're just waiting for them to finish the investigation and find out what really happened," Smith said. "He really appreciated everything life has to give...that's not something David would ever do to himself."

Carradine had flow to Thailand last week and began work on "Stretch" two days before his death, Smith said. He had several other projects lined up after "Stretch," she said.

The notion of suicide was at odds with the seemingly Zen-like frame of mind Carradine had reached after his early years as a boozer and acid tripper.

"That was the biggest shock for me, actually, even more than that he had passed. It didn't make sense," said Frank Krueger, who stars in "Break," a hit man thriller that was one of the last movies Carradine completed. Carradine "had a very strong outlook, very positive. He was looking forward to working. Very generous of spirit. It's not something that I would think would happen at all."

A martial-arts practitioner himself, Krueger said that in real life, Carradine had come to embody the inner peace and selflessness of Caine.

At the premiere of "Break" a month ago, Carradine was introduced to an actor and magician who remarked that he had never been to Hollywood's Magic Castle, a famed private club for magic enthusiasts, Krueger said. Carradine took the man there the next day, Krueger said.

"Complete stranger, actor, fellow artist, and he just thought he should," Krueger said. "So he took him himself, and they spent the night, which I think is a fantastic story. Sort of an example of where David was, the kind of person he was."

"He does definitely have that kind of, that higher state of mind. Obviously, he's lived a heck of a life, and so looking back, I'm sure he's done whatever kind of reflection he's done and made changes to his life," said "Break" director Marc Clebanoff. "He definitely does have that Zen-like quality to him."

It was quite a difference from the picture Carradine painted of himself in the old days. In a 2004 interview with The Associated Press, Carradine talked candidly about his wild ways, saying he had not taken a drink since 1996 but that he had experimented with "a lot of psychotropic drugs" decades earlier.

He said he gave up alcohol because "I didn't like the way I looked for one thing. You're kind of out of control emotionally when you drink that much. I was quicker to anger."

Carradine's death came five years after Quentin Tarantino revived Carradine's professional prospects with the title role in "Kill Bill—Vol. 1" and "Kill Bill—Vol. 2." Carradine spoke hopefully then of Hollywood doors reopening for him the way Tarantino's "Pulp Fiction" resuscitated the career of John Travolta.

"There isn't anything that Anthony Hopkins or Clint Eastwood or Sean Connery or any of those old guys are doing that I couldn't do," Carradine said at the time. "All that was ever required was somebody with Quentin's courage to take and put me in the spotlight."

Carradine's career resurgence was short-lived as he fell back into obscure action flicks such as "Treasure Raiders" and "How to Rob a Bank," the sort of productions to which he had been relegated through much of the 1980s and '90s.

Since "Kill Bill," Carradine's highest-profile roles included this year's action sequel "Crank: High Voltage" and the martial-arts tale "Kung Fu Killer," whose title traded on his Caine fame and reunited him with "Kill Bill" co-star Daryl Hannah.

While Carradine's professional life was book-ended with two wildly dissimilar roles, he made a deep and lasting impression on colleagues.

"David was one of the first actors I ever worked with when I started my career and the closest person to a brother that I ever had in my life," said Michael Madsen, who played Budd, brother to Carradine's Bill, in the "Kill Bill" films. "It is shocking to me that he is no longer with us."

"I have so many great memories of David that I wouldn't even know where to begin. He has a very special place in my heart," said Madsen, who worked alongside Carradine in about half a dozen movies since "Kill Bill," including "Break."

"Kill Bill—Vol. 2" earned Carradine a Golden Globe nomination, but the movies never resulted in the sort of career do-over he had hoped for. Still, he worked constantly, adding dozens of movie and TV credits to the resume of more than 100 films that came before.

In that regard, Carradine had a similar work ethic to his father, whose career as a character actor encompassed hundreds of film roles.

Carradine was part of an extended acting family, which included half-brother Keith and niece Martha Plimpton.

Leaving "Kung Fu" after three seasons, Carradine landed some choice roles with major directors, including leads in Hal Ashby's Woody Guthrie film biography "Bound for Glory" and Ingmar Bergman's "The Serpent's Egg."

Carradine earlier had starred in Martin Scorsese's "Boxcar Bertha," and he had more TV success with the 1980s miniseries "North and South" and its sequel. He also co-starred with half-brothers Keith and Robert Carradine in the Western "The Long Riders."

But his 1975 cult hit "Death Race 2000," about a future America where auto racing has become a blood sport, was more emblematic of his later work as Carradine appeared in such action stories as "Warlock," "Dune Warriors" and "Kill Zone."

Carradine returned to his best-known role with a 1980s "Kung Fu" TV movie and a 1990s series in which he played Caine's grandson, carrying on the family martial-arts tradition.

He left "Kung Fu" because he felt the show was repeating itself, yet it was Caine and his exploits that became Carradine's enduring legacy as the character helped introduce U.S. audiences to an action style now commonplace in Hollywood films.

"Martial arts was a very foreign concept. You saw little bits of it here and there, but it was by no means a mainstream thing like it is now, and he's one of the instrumental elements that helped make that happen," said "Break" director Clebanoff. "He helped put it on the map and make it something that's very recognizable and mainstream."

[lkfmdc]

"found the 72-year-old naked in a wardrobe with a cord around his neck a and other parts of his body

wahts stopping them from saying arms legs unless they dont want to mention a certain appendage.......

they also didn't mention the leather mask and the can of Crisco!

[golden arhat]

has everyone met david carradine apart from me!?:rolleyes:

[Baqualin]

[QUOTE=firepalm;939287]It's certainly sad for the family especially considering the circumstances, but I don't think Carradine deserves any special recognition for his 'role' in the CMA community but you know IKF and others are going to heap praise on the man & his 'legacy'.

Sure they will....their in business to make money....those issues will be hot items.
Not saying it's wrong just good business sense (I work for a publishing co. Gene).

Nothing towards the family Of DC either...my heart goes out to them.

I must also admit that the pilot special to the series was my first introduction to Kung Fu....been in love with CMA ever since....thought Kwaichang was the sh!t until I remembered the Green Hornet series and realized that Kato would have kicked his A$$:D

[lkfmdc]

"Endless Highway," Carradine's 1995 autobiography, opens with the actor recounting how he tried to hang himself at age 5


compare that to his "people" trying to put out the idea he couldn't possibly have tried to kill himself

[kwaichang]

Thanks Gene I appreciate your post of the interview KC

[GeneChing]

...not that I think it would do anything for sales at all. Our next issue won't hit newsstands until 8/4, at which point it will be pretty old news. Beyond my e-zine article, we didn't really do that much with Carradine (http://ezine.kungfumagazine.com/ezine/article.php?article=779). Didn't to that much with Shek Kin (http://ezine.kungfumagazine.com/forum/showthread.php?t=54147) or Tienanmen (http://ezine.kungfumagazine.com/forum/showthread.php?t=54140) either.

We already have two obits slated and I'm really tight on space for this issue, so I'm not sure if we'll go with one yet or not. Would it be ghoulish to suggest that you subscribe (http://www.martialartsmart.net/19341.html) to find out? Probably.

[golden arhat]

"i'll sue you" - the great american scheme. :D
oh my... how scary... life with no money. i am shivering with fright.
i wonder about people like you who take everything way to personal. just running off the possibilities here... because we all know that ANYTHING is possible, not just the possibilities you want it to be... besides... anything coming from the likes of your philosophical mentality i'll take as a mouthful of mud... its hard to find respect for someone who can't even come up with their own internet name. :p

My respect for uki has just risen by about 500 points.

[lkfmdc]

this one goes out to KwaiChang

Through early morning fog I see
visions of the things to be
the pains that are withheld for me
I realize and I can see...

[REFRAIN]:

that suicide is painless
It brings on many changes
and I can take or leave it if I please.
I try to find a way to make
all our little joys relate
without that ever-present hate
but now I know that it's too late, and...

[REFRAIN]

The game of life is hard to play
I'm gonna lose it anyway
The losing card I'll someday lay
so this is all I have to say.

[REFRAIN]

The only way to win is cheat
and lay it down before I'm beat
and to another give my seat
for that's the only painless feat.

[REFRAIN]

The sword of time will pierce our skins
It doesn't hurt when it begins
But as it works its way on in
The pain grows stronger...watch it grin, but...

[REFRAIN]

A brave man once requested me
to answer questions that are key
is it to be or not to be
and I replied 'oh why ask me?'

[REFRAIN]

'Cause suicide is painless
it brings on many changes
and I can take or leave it if I please.
...and you can do the same thing if you please.

[KC Elbows]

Hey KC maybe I'll hit you up next I'm in KC:D

Go for it. We can brainstorm stuff to say about lkfmdc when he's dead.

[lkfmdc]

Go for it. We can brainstorm stuff to say about lkfmdc when he's dead.

New york, NY - today, infamous internet grumpy guy and pain in the butt LKFMDC was found dead in a low grade, pay by the hour flea bag on the lower east side. He was naked from the ankles up, tied up in dirty shoe laces, and covered in motor oil. Witnesses say in prior hours several young Asian hookers had visited the room and loud screams of "yes, I'll stack the ha gow tins now" were heard coming from the room. Authorities state that Ha Gow are "little delicious shrimp balls" but could not explain the exact meaning of the reference

In what is believed to be a suicide note, put up on youtube in the early hours of the morning, LKFMDC explained that since KwaiChang was found dead with a beer bottle rammed up his rear end life had simply lost it's meaning. He no longer had a wannabe loser to harass on internet forums. He also said someone named "Gene Ching" was no longer returning his calls?"

[KC Elbows]

He was naked from the ankles up...

Ahh yeah, that’s right baby
Girl, tonight we're gonna make love
You know how I know baby?
Cuz its Wednesday, and Wednesday night is the night that we make love.
Tuesday night is the night that we go and visit your mother, but
Wednesday night is the night that we make love.
Cuz everything is just right, conditions are perfect.
There's nothing good on TV, conditions are perfect.
You lean in close and say something sexy like " I might go to bed I've
got work in the morning." I know what you're trying to say baby.
You're tryin to say "Ooh yeah, it's business time, it's business time."

Chorus

It’s business, it's business time!
J:That’s what your trying to say, your trying to say lets get down to business
its business time.
Its business its business time

Thats what you're tryin to say, you're tryin to say lets get down to
business it's business time!

Ooh, Next thing you know were in the bathroom brushing our teeth.
That's all part of it. That's foreplay.
Then you go sort out the recycling, that's not part of it but it's still
very important.
Then we're in the bedroom. You're wearing that ugly old baggy
t-shirt from that team building exercise you did for your old work,
and it's never looked better on you.
Mmmhh, team building exercise '99. Oh you don't know
what you're doing to me. I remove my jeans but trip over them
cuz i've still got my shoes on, but then I turn it into a sexy dance.
Next thing you know I'm down to just my socks and you know
when I'm down to just my socks what time it is. It's time for
business. It's business time.

Chorus
Its business, its business time
You know when I’m down to just my socks its time for business,
that’s why they call them business socks


You know when I'm down to just my socks it's time for business
that's why they call it business socks

Chorus

Ooh, makin love, makin love for two, makin love for two minutes.
When its with me you only need two minutes, cuz I’m so intense
Two minutes in heaven is better then one minute in heaven
You say sumthing like “Is that it?”
I know what your trying to say, your trying to say “Ahh ya that’s it”
Then you tell me you want some more
Well im not surprised, But im quite sleepy.

Chorus
Its business, its business time
Business hours are over, baby
Its business, its business time.

[KC Elbows]

I'm willing to bet David Carradine would have liked Flight of the Conchords' "business time". He liked guitar.

[KC Elbows]

* The Guardian, Friday 5 June 2009


A member of a distinguished Hollywood family, the actor David Carradine, who has been found dead at the age of 72, was never exactly a star, but had a sporadically interesting film and television career.

The first, and biggest, of his career peaks came with the television series Kung Fu (1972-75), a huge cult hit, mixing western action with eastern philosophy - a long and abiding interest for the actor - in a way that was novel at the time. His character, Kwai Chang Caine, was a Shaolin monk wandering the American west. It was a sad irony that Carradine was to die in the Buddhist centre of Bangkok, Thailand, in what is believed to be a suicide. Originally a TV movie, Kung Fu grew into a show that lasted for 46 episodes.

By the time the series began, Carradine was already 36. After leaving San Francisco State College, he had been a soldier, commercial artist and stage actor. He had appeared in Shakespearean rep and on Broadway, notably in Royal Hunt of the Sun (1965), as the Inca chief Atahualpa. From the early days, he played a variety of races, and his counter-cultural credentials were established with roles in Martin Scorsese's first film, Boxcar Bertha (1972), and (uncredited) in the director's celebrated Mean Streets (1973) as a memorable drunk in a ruckus in a bar.

A co-star in the former was Barbara Hershey, his partner in the Kung Fu days. This was a hippie affair - she changed her name to Barbara Seagull, and their child was named Free. They never married, but Carradine was to wed five times. There were two other children and four divorces before his final wife, Anne Bierman.

Though he was born John Arthur Carradine in Hollywood, the name David distinguished him from his actor father John Carradine, a grand old man of Hollywood who claimed to have appeared in more movies than any contemporary. David was his eldest son. When Walter Hill came to make The Long Riders, a 1980 film about the James and Younger gangs, he drew on four different acting families. David topped the bill as Cole Younger, alongside his half-brothers, Keith and Robert.

Carradine's career took in more than 200 film and TV credits. He started mainly in westerns, playing the title role in a series based on the hit film Shane in 1966. Other memorable movies included Robert Altman's radical reworking of The Long Goodbye (1973, again uncredited), and the lead in the exploitation film Death Race 2000 (1975), also starring Sylvester Stallone. He was nominated for a Golden Globe for his portrayal of Woody Guthrie in Bound for Glory (1976), which also showcased his abilities as a singer, a talent shared with his brother Keith, who played a country singer in Nashville (1975).

David was in Ingmar Bergman's The Serpent's Egg (1977), but his star waned after the 1970s, assisted by a gonzo reputation. In 1989 he served 48 hours in jail for drink-driving. Q: The Winged Serpent (1982) gave him a rare interesting part, and he appeared in 12 episodes of the TV mini-series North and South (1985-86), which brought him another Golden Globe nomination. He was to revisit his Kung Fu character again from time to time, in Kung Fu: The Movie (1986) and the TV series Kung Fu: The Legend Continues (1993-97). "Every day," he once said of the role, which won him several Emmys, "at least six people will come up to me and say 'Your show changed my life'."

The actor also turned his hand to directing, initially on the Kung Fu series and in three other feature films, You and Me (1975), Mata Hari (1978) and Americana (1983). But his career had been in the doldrums for some time when the celebrated occupation-reviver Quentin Tarantino cast him in the title role of Kill Bill, Vol 1 and 2 (2003-04), a demonic character that leaned heavily on a screen personality that was freewheeling, laconic, always tending towards the maverick outsider. Carradine said it was as close to him as any part he had played, and it provided him with another onscreen musical number, The Legend of Pai Mai. The director had thought of him for some time: "He wanted it to be a revelation to the world that he would show me like people don't know me," Carradine explained. Tarantino drew inspiration from Carradine's huge autobiography, Endless Highway (1995).

More recently, he was a kung-fu master in a Jonas Brothers video and played a 100-year-old Chinese gangster in the just released Crank: High Voltage. The role, like all of his memorable parts, fitted his personality as an Irish-American with a little Cherokee blood. "I'm like a renegade and that rubs people wrong," he said.

He is survived by Annie; two daughters, Calista and Kansas, by his first two wives; and Free, later known as Tom.

• David (John Arthur) Carradine, actor, born 8 December 1936; died 4 June 2009


http://www.guardian.co.uk/film/2009/jun/05/obituary-david-carradine

[kwaichang]

Lk I feeel sorry for you as you are so lame. Had you written that song yourself I might have been impressed but since you are a copy cat riding the wave of the MMA phenomenon until you are no more I have little pitty for you. But since I am more than that I will Pray for your warped soul and hope you quit trying to be the Bad dude you think you are and repent of your old ways. Heck someday you may be half way "good" for something if you start now. Your fear of death shines l;ike a beacon in the night,like some of us you are too chicken to admit it. Oh by the way thanks for the instuctional vids on the other post I will quit what I am doing now and sell everything just to train under you. Since your mentality is limited I will let you know that was sarcasm
Signed very truly yours, Kwai Chang

[kwaichang]

BTW Gene if you do a decent article about DC I will buy your mag and subscribe KC

[KC Elbows]

I am certain that, had someone told David Carradine that there was going to be a ruckus at his wake, he would've been happier than if there wasn't, as long as no one was seriously hurt.

[KC Elbows]

Lk I feeel sorry for you as you are so lame. Had you written that song yourself I might have been impressed but since you are a copy cat riding the wave of the MMA phenomenon until you are no more I have little pitty for you. But since I am more than that I will Pray for your warped soul and hope you quit trying to be the Bad dude you think you are and repent of your old ways. Heck someday you may be half way "good" for something if you start now. Your fear of death shines l;ike a beacon in the night,like some of us you are too chicken to admit it. Oh by the way thanks for the instuctional vids on the other post I will quit what I am doing now and sell everything just to train under you. Since your mentality is limited I will let you know that was sarcasm
Signed very truly yours, Kwai Chang

Dude, David Carradine was an actor. Are you 100% certain that he wouldn't have been cool with someone who just didn't like him, given that he spent his youth famous for his father, and his adulthood famous for his roles?


Stars often come to value people who don't see their fame, and Carradine was definitely his own kind of person.

[kwaichang]

KC Not liking someone is fine I know he is an actor but wise crack slander of the dead is a cheap shot only cowards perform. KC

[David Jamieson]

KC Not liking someone is fine I know he is an actor but wise crack slander of the dead is a cheap shot only cowards perform. KC

To be fair, i believe Dave bad mouthed him before he died too.

But i get your meaning.
Perhaps your sentimental bone is aching from the rain of dead kungfu people today?

Have a sit. :)

[The Willow Sword]

Laughing his a$$ off at all of this. Which is exactly what i am doing right now. :D

All you "purists":rolleyes: Need to take a chill pill,,,breathe and meditate, light patchouly incense or something and bang a gong and just STFU,,LOL!!!

Peace,TWS

[lkfmdc]

To be fair, i believe Dave bad mouthed him before he died too.



correctomundo :D

kwaichang is such a stereotypical wannabe it's amazing and darn right funny all at the same time

I bet he walks around the house in his kung fu uniform!

[kwaichang]

I saw Kung Fu when I was 11 years old after seeing I said I want to do that. And do and did. I enjoyed the philosophy and the character of KCC. I feel that people of today that teach MA could learn something from the Characters of the old Kung Fu TV show. It isnt all about fighting. But to admit that , I think some feel is a weakness. Training for sport is not the martial way skills in MA arent meant for that. Call me nieve if you want but that is how I feel.
Peace to all of you as I go and watch the pilot of Kung Fu and remember the old days. when MA werent measured by the amount of steroids or the octagon or MMA standards. Those who follow that path are lost in time. I feel for people like those who feel strength is found that way. All it takes is one punch to finish a mans whole way of thinking and being.
Do you hear your own heart beat do you hear the Grasshopper at your feet? I am sure some AH will comment on this post but I really dont care. Those that are that way have alot to learn. KC

[kwaichang]

Hey TWS glad to see you are around KC

[Tensei85]

RIP David Carradine,

I still thought he was alright in Kung Fu (but hey that's just me, although Bruce would have been several hundred times better but then again that's just me as well)

Either way its sad and believe it or not I'll actually miss him once in awhile.

[Blacktiger]

Respect - he was cool!

[mickey]

Greetings,

I hope they drop the truth real soon. The story keeps changing.

mickey

[firepalm]

Yes, there was and is racism in Hollywood.

BUT...

I have never seen a single Chinese movie that had a non-Chinese in a leading role.

It's the same everywhere, and Hollywood is hardly the worst.


Chinese films aren't casting Chinese in the roles of Caucasians & saying this is white person. Hollywood is rife with whites in Asian roles! :rolleyes:

[uki]

My respect for uki has just risen by about 500 points.am i back up to zero yet? :D

[sanjuro_ronin]

It seems it was death via "misadventure":
Sex act eyed in Carradine death
By WENN.COM


Director Martin Scorsese and actor Michael Madsen have paid tribute to David Carradine, who died on Thursday.

The Kill Bill star's naked body was discovered hanging in a Bangkok, Thailand hotel suite. Local reports suggested he committed suicide but a statement from Carradine's representative indicates the actor died when a sex act went wrong.

Rumours Carradine died attempting auto-erotic asphyxiation - where victims achieve heightened sexual pleasure by restricting their air supply - are backed up by a quote a Bangkok police officer gave to British newspaper The Sun.

Stars from the big screen have offered their fond memories of the actor, who had a career spanning back to the 1960s.

Madsen, Carradine's co-star in Quentin Tarantino's martial arts films Kill Bill Vols. 1 & 2., is still in shock after hearing of the demise of his friend - a man he regarded as his "brother".

The pair had a close relationship after starring together in the fighting franchise movies and regularly kept in touch between projects.


Madsen reveals he was planning to contact the actor just last week - and will forever regret not picking up the phone.

He says, "David was one of the first actors I ever worked with when I started my career and the closest person to a brother that I ever had in my life. It is shocking to me that he is no longer with us.

"I had been thinking about calling him for the last several days and advise anybody who has been thinking about reaching out to a loved one to do so. I have so many great memories of David that I wouldn't even know where to begin. He has a very special place in my heart."

Director Scorsese, who worked with the late actor on 1972 movie Boxcar Bertha, recalls Carradine being a "wonderful spirit" who dedicated his life to making movies.

He says, "I was deeply saddened by the news of David Carradine's passing. We met when we made Boxcar Bertha together, almost 40 years ago. I have very fond memories of our time together on that picture and on Mean Streets, where he agreed to do a brief cameo. David was a great collaborator, a uniquely talented actor and a wonderful spirit. He loved movies, acting in movies, making movies and he was always extremely generous."

And the producers of what was to be Carradine's next project are also mourning the loss of the "irreplaceable" star.

Adrian Salpeter and Elizabeth Levine, executive producers of indie film Portland, released a joint statement saying, "An actor of David Carradine's stature behind our film meant the world to us. Our thoughts are with his family and friends at this difficult time.

"The team is committed to this film and are considering other actors to replace the irreplaceable David Carradine. The producers and all involved are moving forward with the production in his memory. Mr. Carradine was truly a living legend of stage and screen, having worked with Martin Scorsese, Hal Ashby, Ingmar Bergman and Quentin Tarantino, among many others, in a career that spanned nearly five decades."

The film's writer/director Matthew Mishory adds, "Every filmmaker aspires to work with an iconic actor like David Carradine. He was one of a kind."

[Eric Olson]

What a horrible way to go, because he won't be remembered for his many accomplishments but as the guy that died jerking off in the closet. :rolleyes:

[sanjuro_ronin]

What a horrible way to go, because he won't be remembered for his many accomplishments but as the guy that died jerking off in the closet. :rolleyes:

Auto-erotic asphixation is actually a more common practice than many know or care to admit.
Used by many MA cults in the past, and probably in the present.

[lkfmdc]

Sex act eyed in Carradine death
By WENN.COM

The Kill Bill star's naked body was discovered hanging in a Bangkok, Thailand hotel suite. Local reports suggested he committed suicide but a statement from Carradine's representative indicates the actor died when a sex act went wrong.

Rumours Carradine died attempting auto-erotic asphyxiation - where victims achieve heightened sexual pleasure by restricting their air supply - are backed up by a quote a Bangkok police officer gave to British newspaper The Sun.



LMFAO......

paging KwaiChang, come in KwaiChang

[sanjuro_ronin]

LMFAO......

paging KwaiChang, come in KwaiChang

Be nice.

Like I said, its not that uncommon and not really anything anyone should be "ashamed" of, to each their own.

[uki]

Like I said, its not that uncommon and not really anything anyone should be "ashamed" of, to each their own.if it does turn out to be the case it sure is comical in its own right... each to their own... i like to look for the ridiculous in everything.

when i was a kid we would take real fast deep breaths and then hold one in, cross our arms, and someone would come and give a bear hug from behind... you usually passed out in like 10 seconds. once i did it to my younger brother and right when he passed out, i rolled him up like a burrito in a blanket with his arms at his side and quickly turned out the lights in the room... you should've heard him scream when he finally regained consciousness... priceless. :D

[sanjuro_ronin]

if it does turn out to be the case it sure is comical in its own right... each to their own... i like to look for the ridiculous in everything.

when i was a kid we would take real fast deep breaths and then hold one in, cross our arms, and someone would come and give a bear hug from behind... you usually passed out in like 10 seconds. once i did it to my younger brother and right when he passed out, i rolled him up like a burrito in a blanket with his arms at his side and quickly turned out the lights in the room... you should've heard him scream when he finally regained consciousness... priceless. :D

LMAO, you sick ******* !
Yeah, we used to play silly games like that in Judo when I was younger, choke a guy out and then pull down his pants and right in marker, "Property of the Kodokan".
Ah, kids...

[solo1]

wow. do you read much?
listen lassy... karma is my footstool. once you transcend it, you can do whatever you want with it. :)

from ohio... your third post... do you work for the FBI or something? :p

No Uki been stalking these pages for a while historically you crack me up I just found that comment to be raw and unnecessary. I dont work for the FBI. Whats thrid post got to do with anything? Be Well.

[SPJ]

the first time I went to Mandalay Bay hotel in Las Vagas.

there are oxygen bars.

there are different colors of oxygen, we may inhale.

more oxygen is better.

but pure oxygen may be harmful, too.

--

asphyxiation is always dangerous, no matter how young or how old

sex act or not.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T2DLWf2u3s8&feature=related


:eek:

[SPJ]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vz70TBJHLXA&feature=related

O2 bar and starbuck side by side.

wow, O two and caffeine, I am all set for the day's work.

:eek:

David. May God keep your soul in peace.

We will miss you.

:(

[MasterKiller]

Old Pond.
Frog Jumps In.

SPLASH!

[Mr Punch]

That will really suck if the powers that be here see it.WHAT!? You're not the powers that be!?:eek::eek: /hangs self in closet

[mickey]

So, about DC,

He came and went?


mickey

[uki]

He came and went?he moved on along...

[KC Elbows]

Chinese films aren't casting Chinese in the roles of Caucasians & saying this is white person. Hollywood is rife with whites in Asian roles! :rolleyes:

True. John Wayne played Genghis Khan in The Congueror! However, nowadays, I don't see this happening. Nowadays, Asians are not often the lead characters, just as Westerners aren't often the leads in Asian films.

[lkfmdc]

(the "powers that be", hidden in their secret fortress in the swamp, review this thread)

- "who is this LKFMDC and why is he such an ass?

- "he's pure evil, and on top of that he has a sick sense of humor"

- "maybe we can get this KwaiChang person to eliminate him for us, you know is profile says he is a hitman!

- "splendid! splendid! Bravo! Brilliant

- "the motion carries"

- "we'll make it look like a suicide!

If I am found in an expensive hotel butt naked and hanging in a closet, you know who is really responsible! :mad:

[uki]

Nowadays, Asians are not often the lead characters.mongol is a fine example of one of the exceptions.

[firepalm]

True. John Wayne played Genghis Khan in The Congueror! However, nowadays, I don't see this happening. Nowadays, Asians are not often the lead characters, just as Westerners aren't often the leads in Asian films.

Dragon Ball, Goku played by a white boy. :rolleyes:

[Mas Judt]

It's looking more and more like I called it on this one.

Good thing everybody looks up to actors as role models, I mean, they are just so normal and well adjusted...

[SPJ]

depending on the movie theme and project

1. Kelly Hu was like in scorpion king, like in x-men.

2. michelle yeoh like in 007 film and so many other hollywood flicks.

3. lucy liu in charles angle, lethal weapon----

----

[Scott R. Brown]

I liked Kung Fu, but my favorite character was Master Po!

Am I the only one here who thinks that a 72 year old entertaining himself with auto-asphyxiation sounds a bit unlikely?

[KC Elbows]

Dragon Ball, Goku played by a white boy. :rolleyes:

Fair enough. No movie I would ever see seems to do this.;):D

[Mas Judt]

How about this:

It is always the black dude who gets killed in action movies. Unless the star is black, being African American in an action film is like having a red shirt in Star Trek. EVEN THE BLACK TRANSFORMER dies.

Coincidence?

Observations cribbed from author Steven Barnes, who is a really cool guy by the way, has some really funny stuff in regards to this. Met him last summer at an event in Vegas, it was like meeting a long lost brother. Dude is insanely funny and spot on with his observations. Really want to spit out your drink? Ask him why he likes slasher films.

I think his blog is called Dar Kush. Well worth reading.

[David Jamieson]

I liked Kung Fu, but my favorite character was Master Po!

Am I the only one here who thinks that a 72 year old entertaining himself with auto-asphyxiation sounds a bit unlikely?

I liked Master Khan.

He had a different way from Po. muwhahahahahaha. More Yang!

[David Jamieson]

Dragon Ball, Goku played by a white boy. :rolleyes:

To be fair, the Japanese always animate themselves as wide eyed white people for some odd reason. Unless it's a bad guy, in which case they always look thoroughly Japanese.

Go figure!

[Baqualin]

depending on the movie theme and project


3. lucy liu in charles angle, lethal weapon----

----

And Kill Bill:)
BQ

[Baqualin]

Be nice.

Like I said, its not that uncommon and not really anything anyone should be "ashamed" of, to each their own.

You kinky b_astard;)
BQ

[sanjuro_ronin]

You kinky b_astard;)
BQ

Whatever do you mean?

[Lama Pai Sifu]

You my friend are just a fat bald"partially" wanna be. No I am no lawyer didnt say I was you are a pervert though. The guilty dog barks first that is why you brought up about the Thai Boy. KC

I don't understand this; are you saying that he is 'partially bald' or 'partially a wanna be?'

You have me quite confused....

You really need to be much more 'clear' when insulting others. How do you expect us to follow this??? :eek:

[Lokhopkuen]

has everyone met david carradine apart from me!?:rolleyes:

Yes i have several times. Personable, eccentric.

[Lama Pai Sifu]

How about this:

It is always the black dude who gets killed in action movies. Unless the star is black, being African American in an action film is like having a red shirt in Star Trek. EVEN THE BLACK TRANSFORMER dies.




How did you know that the transformer was 'black'?

[lkfmdc]

You really need to be much more 'clear' when insulting others. How do you expect us to follow this??? :eek:

Quite right, I mean, follow my example, I clearly stated that

Kwaichang is a fake kung fu person who pretends to be a shaolin monk, lives in a fantasy land, is afraid to reveal his real identity, and has his panties in a bunch because David Carradine apprently yanked himself to death in a Bangkok closet

I mean, this is a discussion forum, and if you can't be clear you aren't moving the conversation forward are you?

;)

[lkfmdc]

How did you know that the transformer was 'black'?

Mike clearly is not up on his transformers!

but if you ask nicely, I'll tell you which transformer likes the yank it while being strangled in a closet :p

[brothernumber9]

The "black" transformer thing probably came about because not only was the cartoon version of Jazz partially black, but the voice actor for his character was the same guy that did the voice for Hong Kong Phooey and also the actor that played the Janitor in the movie "Zapped!", and if you have ever seen that movie (and I have no idea why you would) you would know that dude was black. So how's that for six degrees of Scott Baio?

[lkfmdc]

new forum rule: in depth knowledge of anything "Scott Baio" requires you remove yourself from the forum - exact length to be determined by the actual offense. In this case, "zapped" :eek: I'd say at least a month! :mad:

[Mas Judt]

How did you know that the transformer was 'black'?

Black, as in color - I don't know if in 'culturalization' - you can take that up with Steven Barnes, he's the one who made the observation to me the other day - LOL at implying he's a racist.

[brothernumber9]

yeah, so act like you never seen it? ****** please.
what the freak? h0nkey is censored?!?!?! Who the F would it offend?!?!?!

[lkfmdc]

yeah, so act like you never seen it? ****** please.
what the freak? h0nkey is censored?!?!?! Who the F would it offend?!?!?!

NAAHWC

National Association for the Advancedment of ****** White Crackers

:D

[lkfmdc]

PS: I am really angry no one has commented on my fake obituary :mad:

[sanjuro_ronin]

PS: I am really angry no one has commented on my fake obituary :mad:

It was fake??

[brothernumber9]

NAAHWC

National Association for the Advancedment of ****** White Crackers

:D


But I'm the president of the National Association for the Advancement of H0nkey White Crackers!

[Eric Olson]

I liked Kung Fu, but my favorite character was Master Po!

Am I the only one here who thinks that a 72 year old entertaining himself with auto-asphyxiation sounds a bit unlikely?

Likelihood increases 10-fold thanks to the little blue pill....but yeah, even then it seems like if he was into this kind of thing it wouldn't have taken him 72 years to accidentally off himself.

[Yao Sing]

There has to be more to the story because you can do that anywhere, no need to go all the way to Thailand.

You go to Thailand for 3 things (if you aren't a boxer): young girls, opium or ladyboys so which one was also found in his room?

[sanjuro_ronin]

There has to be more to the story because you can do that anywhere, no need to go all the way to Thailand.

You go to Thailand for 3 things (if you aren't a boxer): young girls, opium or ladyboys so which one was also found in his room?

He was in Thailand filming a movie.

[lkfmdc]

You go to Thailand for 3 things (if you aren't a boxer): young girls, opium or ladyboys

sig worthy :D

[lkfmdc]

He was in Thailand filming a movie.

sure, that's what they want you to believe

[Mas Judt]

PS: I am really angry no one has commented on my fake obituary :mad:

I was just waiting for things to die down so we could exhume your body and sell it to pasty-white New Yorker necro-fetishists. It's a living.

[sanjuro_ronin]

sure, that's what they want you to believe

They?
The same people that expect us to believe that your death was fake too eh?

[taai gihk yahn]

Am I the only one here who thinks that a 72 year old entertaining himself with auto-asphyxiation sounds a bit unlikely?

not to mention the other rope tied around his genitalia...:eek::eek::eek:

[Mano Mano]

You go to Thailand for 3 things (if you aren't a boxer): young girls, opium or ladyboys so which one was also found in his room?
All I got when I was there was sunstroke, & chased by a pack of wild macaque monkeys.

[lkfmdc]

All I got when I was there was sunstroke, & chased by a pack of wild macaque monkeys.

are you suggesting the monkeys killed David Carradine? :eek:

[Mano Mano]

are you suggesting the monkeys killed David Carradine? :eek:
No, but I think there may have some rope innocently lying around nearby.

[kwaichang]

I was speaking of partially bald and partial wanna be. I am just waiting for more evidence to the death itself. I have been wtching LK's vids. I was just wondering if he works out with the class or just teaches , cant tell????? KC

[Yao Sing]

He was in Thailand filming a movie.

A movie about young girls, opium and ladyboys?

[lkfmdc]

He was in Thailand filming a movie about young girls, opium and ladyboys?



what a strange coincidence!

[TenTigers]

not to mention the other rope tied around his genitalia...:eek::eek::eek:
y'know, you guys are quick to jump all over DC, but you gush and suck up to those Monks and that other guy who does all those iron crotch stuff, like pulling traincars, hanging weights, etc.
The way I see it, DC was probably doing some very special esoteric iron crotch tantric seminal retention chi-gung type of stuff.
He is afterall, a Shaolin Master.

[lkfmdc]

y'know, you guys are quick to jump all over DC, but you gush and suck up to those Monks and that other guy who does all those iron crotch stuff, like pulling traincars, hanging weights, etc.
The way I see it, DC was probably doing some very special esoteric iron crotch tantric seminal retention chi-gung type of stuff.
He is afterall, a Shaolin Master.

you know me, I just LOVE the shaolin monks :rolleyes: :D

[Yao Sing]

Ok, guess the name of the movie he was filming there ........... Stretch.

Yep, the film is called Stretch. Nope, no irony there.

[Oso]

Greetings,

Carradine, despite all of his problems did not seem like a suicide type of guy. I hope more info is provided about this. It just does not feel right.

mickey

PS: If it comes out that somebody topped him really good, I'd believe it. :)

LMAO! right on.


the number of ****s in this thread would do justice to gay porn.

[Lokhopkuen]

Buddy in Bangkok says hands tied behind the back.
Anybody? Bueller?

[TenTigers]

-sounds like, "who did it and ran."

[peace&love]

It's unfortunate that so many people on this thread have been so hateful and disrespectful to Mr. Carradine and his family. He may have not been the greatest martial artist in the world, but he did help spread the art and practiced it. Whether some of us like it or not, he was one of our kung fu brothers. Everyone has the right to say what they want. It is a free country thankfully, but, please keep in mind, that a lady has lost her husband, children have lost their father, two men have lost their oldest brother, etc. I'm curious to see what the autopsy reports. We may never know what truly happened. No matter what direction his final path went (murder, suicide, accidental death due to a sex act), it was unfortunate and tragic. RIP David Carradine, and I mean that sincerely.

[Yao Sing]

Well I just don't buy that a guy in a town with easily obtained drugs and hookers would hop in the closet for a cheap thrill. Definitely something is amiss.

[Lokhopkuen]

There has to be more to the story because you can do that anywhere, no need to go all the way to Thailand.

You go to Thailand for 3 things (if you aren't a boxer): young girls, opium or ladyboys so which one was also found in his room?

Spiritual guidance
Spiritual Healing
Massage
Massage-eee
Food
The Islands

8 things:D

[uki]

It is a free country thankfully.LMAO!!! hahahahahaha!!!!


No matter what direction his final path went (murder, suicide, accidental death due to a sex act), it was unfortunate and tragic. if death truly is an unfortunate tragedy... why is it a part of everyday life?

[Oso]

Black, as in color - I don't know if in 'culturalization' - you can take that up with Steven Barnes, he's the one who made the observation to me the other day - LOL at implying he's a racist.

wait, as in the author?

I've been reading him since the 80's...good stuff.

[Mr Punch]

To be fair, the Japanese always animate themselves as wide eyed white people for some odd reason. Unless it's a bad guy, in which case they always look thoroughly Japanese.

Go figure!You haven't seen very many animé have you?


new forum rule: in depth knowledge of anything "Scott Baio" requires you remove yourself from the forum - exact length to be determined by the actual offense. In this case, "zapped" :eek: I'd say at least a month! :mad:
Hah, remove yourself! I've never heard of Scott Baio, let alone whatever a 'Zapped' is! :p :D

[Mr Punch]

So, is there any more info on DC, or did he just turn out to be a closet INXS fan?!

[mawali]

He was a man like any other, no better nor worse!

[TenTigers]

uh-oh...

I kinda like INXS

[Mano Mano]

uh-oh...

I kinda like INXS
I admire your openness at least you’re not a closet fan.

[lkfmdc]

In complete seriousness I always thought that the lead singer from INXS DId committ suicide? He was depressed because his wife left him and took their child with her... isn't that what happened? :confused:

[kwaichang]

The investigation goes on and on. The family wants the FBI involved. Some of you gourd heads are going to have to eat their words I fear. Mawahahahahahah KC

[uki]

Some of you gourd heads are going to have to eat their words I fear. splendid!! *clapping hands together* i love eating words - they are yummy to my tummy.

[mickey]

Gentlemen,

This is getting more and more uncool,

http://www.radaronline.com/exclusives/2009/06/world-exclusive-thai-newspaper-publishes-photo-carradine-hanging-family-outraged


I think the tabloid actually did the family a favor. If the photo showed that the guy's hands were tied as described...

1- It was not suicide, and

2- Carradine was not alone



mickey

[TenTigers]

I admire your openness at least you’re not a closet fan.

no, actually I consider myself more of a low oscilating ceiling fan-although one with variable speeds.

[Yao Sing]

You should lay off the variable speeds. Speed kills you know. :eek:

[Hardwork108]

RIP David Carradine.

He introduced a lot of people to kung fu, even if it was not his intention.:D

[Hardwork108]

Forgive me, really, but while a loss to his family, and RIP and condolances, yet another part of me says "thank G'd, at least he won't be riding the kung fu wagon any longer"

People seem to forget that when he got the role in the original Kung Fu show he said "hey, I'm just an actor, and I don't believe or practice any of this crap, it's just a role"

Then, on hard times, he became "mr kung fu"

.....And what is your excuse for ¨becoming¨ and claiming the title of "Mr kung fu sifu"?

[Kansuke]

.....And what is your excuse for ¨becoming¨ and claiming the title of "Mr kung fu sifu"?


Yeah, that's not nearly as good as "Two Year Grandmaster"

[diego]

Im not trying to be funny but when you die doesnt your body stay in the state in which you passed. So if it was the AEA wouldnt he have still had a boner while hangin there. Matter fact all they need to do is check his hands for semen and the case will be solved. You would would think Kung Fu would have a little more self discipline then that in the first place anyway. I thought your body was a temple, jagging off hangin from a ceiling kind of negates that theory. Oh BTW RIP.
__________________

[SIFU RON]

I salute David Carradine and all the others of that helped bring KF and Martail Arts to the attention of the world and those of us that are doing it today and all those that will continue to carry it on in the future.

[kwaichang]

Just a small update it seems there is the notion foul play was afoot. Cant wait to see the autopsy results. Sounds like Thailand is trying to down play this thing to keep the tourism industry profitable. KC

[AdrianK]

You all jerk off too and the first man who says he doesn't or hasn't is the biggest liar of us all.

What about quadraplegics :(

[Mr Punch]

...
So create some mysterious evil force that did it so that puritan sensibilities will not be shattered.

the point is, the guy is dead. Got respects? pay em, no? start your own thread about how you don't like him.

that's grade 3 etiquette.

You all jerk off too and the first man who says he doesn't or hasn't is the biggest liar of us all.LOL, wait a minute.... we're puritan because we don't want to believe someone would wanna have sex like that, but we're not allowed to laugh?! :D I think the natural reaction if somebody carcs it through weird sexual practices is to laugh, and you're far more puritan about death and sex if you don't.

The Thais have a saying: You think too much! /Big Thai Shrug

Same as usual: shame he died, I guess, and then it's a shame nobody wrote a thread about the 65th anniversary of D-Day... nobody writes threads about the continuing systematic murder in Darfur, blah blah blah.

[taai gihk yahn]

What about quadraplegics :(

I'm sure that they can count on you for help w/that :eek::eek::eek::eek:


ANYWAY...


look - the issue is not that they guy liked to yank his crank or not - it's that he NEEDED TO TIE A ROPE AROUND HIS NECK AND NUTS TO DO IT- that's the weird part; and hey, honestly, if the guy was a big old squirrley perv, who cares - of course, it's more than a little incongruous with his public personna vis a vis the wise and balanced kung fu guy, not to mention his tai chi and rubber hose (seriously - he was hawking some rubber hose that you supposedly used for a health-type routine) health tapes

at the end of the day, who really cares - if you liked / disliked the guy's body of work, the method of his death won't impact that perception; the worst thing that could happen now is a whole cult of rumors springing up about him being offed by some secret cabal because of his kung fu ties - that, to me, would be more disrespectful than just acknowledging he was a ***** perv who unfortunately got in over his head...

[Yao Sing]

the worst thing that could happen now is a whole cult of rumors springing up about him being offed by some secret cabal because of his kung fu ties - that, to me, would be more disrespectful than just acknowledging he was a ***** perv who unfortunately got in over his head...

Well since you brought it up here you go (http://www.nypost.com/seven/06072009/news/regionalnews/whacky_kung_fu_172948.htm).

[David Jamieson]

What about quadraplegics :(

If you need to qualify every post here with the statement (the average population), then ok, ya got me. But then, that makes every statement ever made moot because it isn't qualified due to missing out on some minute percentage of society.

I would call that PC bull****.

[taai gihk yahn]

Well since you brought it up here you go (http://www.nypost.com/seven/06072009/news/regionalnews/whacky_kung_fu_172948.htm).

yeah, I saw that clip on LKL - it was like, "yeah, it was only a matter of time before they played that card" - I mean, suicide, autoasphyxiation, cult murder - suuure, go for that last one there....

[sanjuro_ronin]

Like I mentioned before, IF it was a case of sexual misadventure than so what?
To each their own.
A buddy of mine and I was chatting about DC this weekend, we both worked at the same night club that he was escorted out from ( by me and 2 other bouncers), my friend mentioned that when he tried to "kung fu chop" us while we were escorting them out some screamed out "go get them Caine". LMAO !!
Funny thing though we get him outside, he is blabbering on about *******s and such and I look at him an say, "Mr.Carrdine, can I call you a cab?"
He looks at me and says, "Cab? *****, I'm a superstar, call me a limo !"
:D
Too awesome.

[lkfmdc]

Well since you brought it up here you go (http://www.nypost.com/seven/06072009/news/regionalnews/whacky_kung_fu_172948.htm).

ninjas did it, yeah, that's it, ninjas, those pesky ninjas :rolleyes:

[David Jamieson]

LOL, wait a minute.... we're puritan because we don't want to believe someone would wanna have sex like that, but we're not allowed to laugh?! :D I think the natural reaction if somebody carcs it through weird sexual practices is to laugh, and you're far more puritan about death and sex if you don't.

The Thais have a saying: You think too much! /Big Thai Shrug

Same as usual: shame he died, I guess, and then it's a shame nobody wrote a thread about the 65th anniversary of D-Day... nobody writes threads about the continuing systematic murder in Darfur, blah blah blah.

you disagree that some people posting in this thread can't accept it was a sex game gone wrong?

even with the photo of the tranny gear, the tie ups being sexually related and the fishnet body stocking.

it would seem that some people don't want to deal with that.

[Mr Punch]

you disagree that some people posting in this thread can't accept it was a sex game gone wrong?

even with the photo of the tranny gear, the tie ups being sexually related and the fishnet body stocking.

it would seem that some people don't want to deal with that.No I don't disagree. Frankly, I don't give a **** how he died, and nor does he.

You can't have it both ways pal:

You're saying if we say it wasn't a sex game and it was some other shadowy nefarious reason, we're too puritan to accept that it may have been a sex game...?

Then you're saying we shouldn't laugh under the assumption that it was a sex game... we should be more puritan about death?

And now you're saying it was definitely a sex game? So are you saying we can laugh or we can't? I mean, you know, it's a rhetorical question cos I don't give a **** how he died as I said, and it does seem amusing enough for me to raise an eyebrow (can't say I'm RFLMAO :rolleyes: ).

No wait. Just forget I was here.

[sanjuro_ronin]

RE: the bound hands.


A grainy photo published on the Saturday cover of the tabloid Thai Rath shows a naked body suspended from a clothes bar in a hotel closet, hands apparently bound together above the head and feet on the floor. The face is blacked out and other areas are obscured.


http://jam.canoe.ca/Movies/2009/06/05/9692306-ap.html

You can find the pic yourselves if you want to, just google Thai Rath and Carradine.
For obvious reasons I will not post the pic there. or anywhere for that matter.
The fact it was leaked to the press was in very poor taste.

I can see the issues for the family, it seems that "foul play" COULD be a factor.

[David Jamieson]

*snip*

No wait. Just forget I was here.

very well.

[doug maverick]

now like i have said ive met and on several occasions had dinner with david and i'm not speaking ill of him however...the ****ing bull**** his lawyer spewed out in the post makes me want to smack someone....she is trying to insinuate that david was killed by a secret martial arts society...im like are you ****ing serious and shame on the ny post for running that bull......and on the cover no less, but what can you expect from the post...all of us in the community no that this is malarky...while ill admit something funny is going on with that even the kinky sex thing doesnt exactly sound right...but this is just way too much....they are trying to bruceleeize david, trying to make it all a mystery sorta like in the 70s when bruce died people were saying the same thing. people couldnt come to grips that what brought bruce down was an asprin and a brain hemorrhage(sp?)....david carradine wasnt even to well liked by the younger M.A. community, and older ones who came in contact with him. plus this is 2009 technology and debunkers have made us aware of these so called secret societies.......to daves agent i say...man you come straight out of a comic book.

[Eric Olson]

people couldnt come to grips that what brought bruce down was an asprin and a brain hemorrhage(sp?)

According to someone living in Hong Kong at the time BL died, the rumor was that cocaine and hookers were involved.

[sanjuro_ronin]

According to someone living in Hong Kong at the time BL died, the rumor was that cocaine and hookers were involved.

BOOYAHH !!
What a way to go !!
:D

[KC Elbows]

PS: I am really angry no one has commented on my fake obituary :mad:

We weren't sure it wasn't true. We like to respect the recently deceased around here. It sounded like such a tragedy to your family, your friends, and to the NYC area Asian hooker economy.

[GeneChing]

...so tasteless, it must be posted here...


Kung Fu Teaches Grasshopper Auto Erotic Asphixiation (http://www.thespoof.com/news/spoof.cfm?headline=s4i54443)
Story written: 09 June 2009
Auto Erotic Primate chokes only his chicken in a later didactic episode of the TV classic

David Carradine as the wise martial arts guru of the old hit show Kung Fu taught his disciple Grasshopper many valuable life lessons about grabbing rounded stones from the palm of the master, defending the innocent and the defenseless with pointy sticks and rounded stones still warm from the palm of the master.

The pair traveled far and wide, high and low and hither and yon in search of 30 minute episodes to enrich savagely materialistic and pleasure addicted TV freaks with the ancient wisdom of the Orient.

A recent archive search of the unaired episodes of Kung Fu produced the tape of lost adventure of the teacher and his locust-like pupae. In this somewhat unusual plot line the master asks the pupil if he would like to explore the deeper secrets of the male human body.

After much reassurance and calming of the really weirded out Grasshopper, Kung Fu demonstrates some peculiar rope tricks and instructs his apprentice to cut him down should he reach too deep a state of ecstasy. Good ole loyal Grasshopper saves the old pervert at the last minute and tells him to pack sand while the youngster goes off to search for a much less grubby guru.
And in the vulture dept....

It’s tacky and tacky. Also: It’s tacky. (http://www.austin360.com/blogs/content/shared-gen/blogs/austin/austinmovies/entries/2009/06/08/its_tacky_and_tacky_also_its_t_1.html)
By Chris Garcia | Monday, June 8, 2009, 03:55 PM

This press release just shambled, stupidly, across our desk:

“Shaolin Cardio Kick Boxing” Workout Starring Legendary Actor and Martial Arts Expert David Carradine Coming to DVD for the First Time on Sept. 8, 2009

(MMD Newswire) June 8, 2009 — A martial arts based workout featuring Emmy and Golden Globe nominated actor David Carradine entitled “David Carradine’s Shaolin Cardio Kick Boxing is coming to DVD for the first time through BayView Entertainment. Martial Arts expert Carradine utilizes the natural, simple, and graceful movements of the Shaolin Five Animals into a cardio workout routine that thoroughly strengthens the entire body. The DVD has a suggested retail price of $19.99 and will be available in stores throughout the country …

Man dies, cash register ca-chings.

Also I don't know why they bother with the FBI. Obviously we have all the answers about what happened right here. :rolleyes:


Thai Police Accept FBI Aid in Carradine Investigation (http://www.eonline.com/uberblog/b128008_thai_police_accept_fbi_aid_in_carradine.ht ml)
Mon., Jun. 8, 2009 11:59 AM PDT by Gina Serpe

Three days after the mourning family of David Carradine requested FBI intervention into the mysterious circumstances surrounding the actor's death, Thai police say they will welcome U.S. assistance.

However, Bangkok officials, who have since reneged on their initial theory that the 72-year-old's committed suicide, said that the FBI would be welcomed simply as observers—the only position allowed for a foreign body under Thai law.

"If the FBI wants to get involved, we will do our best to cooperate," Thai police Maj. Gen. Amnuay Nimmano told reporters at a press conference today. "We have nothing to hide."

Including Carradine's cause of death, which has yet to be officially announced for one simple reason…

Police are not yet certain about what caused his demise, let alone the events that led up to it.

"The previous conclusions on the cause of death were made by people who know nothing about the case," said Nimmano.

In recanting the suicide theory, investigators announced Friday that Carradine may have died from autoerotic asphyxiation during a sexual encounter.

A grainy photo was published in the tabloid Thai Rath over the weekend apparently showing a naked Carradine with both hands bound at the wrist and suspended over his head in his Bangkok hotel room. His face is blurred and parts of his body were obscured.

Thai police have since said that the image was most likely a police forensic photograph that was leaked to the paper.

Carradine's brother Keith Carradine said that the family was "profoundly disturbed" by the publication of the image and may seek legal action against the paper and any future publishers of the photo for "invasion of privacy and severe emotional distress."

The body of the Kill Bill star is expected to arrive in Los Angeles sometime today, where a second autopsy will be performed. The results of an autopsy performed in Thailand are not expected for three weeks.

Funeral arrangements have not yet been announced.

In the meantime, BayView Entertainment has announced plans to release two Carradine-featuring martial arts-based workout videos this year. David Carradine's Shaolin Cardio Kick Boxing will be released Sept. 8, while David Carradine Presents Shaolin Strength Training will be released sometime in October.

(Originally published June 8, 2009, at 10:37 a.m. PT)

[lkfmdc]

According to someone living in Hong Kong at the time BL died, the rumor was that cocaine and hookers were involved.

What happened wasn't pretty but is very well known. He was having an affair with soft core actress Betty Ting-Pei and was over at her house. After drinks and hash, he got a headache and went to sleep in her bed. He never woke up. They tried to cover up that he was found NAKED :eek: in the bed of another woman (not his wife) and that there was hash in his system, but it was so out there for everyone to know it wasn't at all a secret. They made a grade F kung fu movie supposedly from Ting Pei's perspective called "Bruce's secret life"! :rolleyes:

[KC Elbows]

It began when David Carradine shot ______ on ______'s wedding day, only to discover that ______ carried David's illegitimate lovechild. For the following years, a redneck orderly was taking cash from his friends for the chance to touch the comatose ______'s flawlessly pale white flesh. When ______ awoke, he killed the orderly, and Uki, who, for some reason, had shown up in a nurse's outfit.

Flash forward some years, ______ is perched on a building top in Bangkok, hookswords in his hands: wearing his twelve year old he-she "disguise", he sneaks his way into David Carradine's hotel room carrying a length of rope and lingerie, only to discover his and David Carradine's lovechild, Hardwork. ______immediately sees the resemblance, but kills David Carradine anyway.

But whenever they want to remember David Carradine, LKFMDC and Hardwork sit together, watching the original Kung fu series.

[lkfmdc]

I confess, I am part of the secret ninja death cult. I killed both Bruce Lee and David Carradine. But Carradine was tough so I got help from Chuck Norris' beard

[kwaichang]

Now that is funny KC

[GunnedDownAtrocity]

The man struggled with some demons, that's for sure.
RIP.



my theology teacher, fr. steltenkamp sj, got his doctorate in anthropology via native american studies. he spent a lot of time on various reservations, and he actually met david carridine on one of them. i cant remember the whole story, but the jist of it was that carradine got naked and started dancing around by the stream making the stereo typical native american chanting sounds. the women there were horrified as exposing one self as such is considered extremely disresepctful. he said carridine was extremely difficult to understand and seemed pretty out of it. i guess the dude just liked to be naked.

rip in any case.

[MasterKiller]

They made a grade F kung fu movie supposedly from Ting Pei's perspective called "Bruce's secret life"! :rolleyes:

I saw that movie on Showtime Extreme. :cool:

[Oso]

my theology teacher, fr. steltenkamp sj, got his doctorate in anthropology via native american studies. he spent a lot of time on various reservations, and he actually met david carridine on one of them. i cant remember the whole story, but the jist of it was that carradine got naked and started dancing around by the stream making the stereo typical native american chanting sounds. the women there were horrified as exposing one self as such is considered extremely disresepctful. he said carridine was extremely difficult to understand and seemed pretty out of it. i guess the dude just liked to be naked.

rip in any case.

who doesn't like to be naked????

[taai gihk yahn]

who doesn't like to be naked????

it's not so much the being, it's the seeing...

[lkfmdc]

who doesn't like to be naked????

well there was this one time when Taai gihk yaan was in washington square park, and after taking a few deep breaths, taking in the "local smoke" he suddenly rippoed off al his clothing and started doing kata naked in the park, but I digress

[Oso]

enh, at some point in time we're all going to be 72 year old crazy dudes...

[kwaichang]

LK you have your facts wrong Bruce Lee did not have hash in his system a little cannabis was found in his stomach. He had take Equagesic a pain killer and suffered an aneurism. You guys slay me with yuour comments about things you know nothing about. KC

[Lucas]

have you read unsettled matters?

[kwaichang]

??????????????? what yu talkin bout willis ??? KC

[SPJ]

FBI is on board to find out what happened.

But some common sense.

if you want to hold your breath, will it not be better to have a oxygen mask with a oxygen tank around.

in case something went wrong.

a second party or a third party to alert medic team in the hotel

or 911 in thailand?

or DC all by him self alone?

room mate? movie staff living near by?

--

:confused::eek:

[Eric Olson]

What happened wasn't pretty but is very well known. He was having an affair with soft core actress Betty Ting-Pei and was over at her house. After drinks and hash, he got a headache and went to sleep in her bed. He never woke up. They tried to cover up that he was found NAKED :eek: in the bed of another woman (not his wife) and that there was hash in his system, but it was so out there for everyone to know it wasn't at all a secret. They made a grade F kung fu movie supposedly from Ting Pei's perspective called "Bruce's secret life"! :rolleyes:

Yeah, that seems to jive with what I heard...only from a native english speaker.

EO

[Lokhopkuen]

I confess, I am part of the secret ninja death cult. I killed both Bruce Lee and David Carradine. But Carradine was tough so I got help from Chuck Norris' beard

No statute of limitations on murder dude and here we have a confession?:rolleyes:

[firepalm]

Well it's certainly getting more interesting;
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GWMZeD_x28Q

Sorry Kwaichang if this is blowing your image of DC... :)

[Lucas]

??????????????? what yu talkin bout willis ??? KC

Unsettled Matters (http://www.sanjosekenpo.com/UNSETTLEDMATTERS.pdf)

[bawang]

hi
if jackie chan or jet li died i would be very sad and cry
david carridine
hmm

nope

[kwaichang]

Why would what a lot of shock jocks have to say trouble me. They are just riding the wave of hope for more money. Does Rush Limpball mean anything to you?? KC

[SPJ]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J5kBqrHphjo&feature=rec-HM-r2

my fave episode.

the grasshopper.

classic.

:cool:

[Siu Lum Fighter]

That was a classic. Too bad his Shaolin wasn't good enough to fight off the New World Order/Ninja Death Cult.

[Scott R. Brown]

Maybe this has been posted already and I just missed it:

An independent autopsy appears to indicate David Carradine DID NOT commit suicide!

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,525866,00.html?mrp

[Lucas]

i think most of us suspected as much.

now the real question is; what crazy bruce lee nut finally did him in...

[mickey]

Greetings,

The FBI are assisting the Thai police in looking for a tall, lanky, Black man, a well known martial artist, from the New York City area. He was spotted by a hotel room cleaner the morning before David Carradine's body was found. The attendant told the police that the man was wearing a blue frog buttoned jacket, a large Chinese style rickshaw hat and a pair of Nike's. She elaborated that this person knocked on Carradine's door, and as the door partly opened the suspect gave out a loud blood curdling cry and pushed himself in. Screams were heard as well as a "Lord help me Jes..." (attendant was brought up Christian for two years, so she understood this phrase for some reason) before there was silence. One FBI member assigned to the case got a hunch and showed her a few film clips of a guy who posts on youtube. Upon seeing the suspect the attendant started shaking uncontrollably and urinated on herself (the urine ate through the chair) while pointing at the screen shouting "Yawsheeif fayyy!," repeatedly.

Her cry was taken to a master linguist who spent 72 hours trying to figure it out. He then experienced a breakthrough: that what she was saying was what the suspect was saying and he was able to break it down-- "Your Sh!t is Fake!"

a mickey original :)